Ticats discussed Zach Collaros trade with Riders, received offer from Argos

Hamilton has discussed trading quarterback Zach Collaros with the Saskatchewan Roughriders and received a substantial offer from the Toronto Argonauts, per sources.

Prior to the 29-year-old being benched by new Ticats head coach June Jones, Hamilton was presented with a potential deal from the Argos that would have included three Canadians and a high draft pick. Since Collaros was demoted that proposal fell by the wayside and his trade value has since diminished.

Toronto would be a logical landing spot for Collaros for a number of reasons. Former Ticats offensive coordinator Tommy Condell, now a receivers coach with Toronto, is known to have a close relationship with his former player. Collaros also played in a Marc Trestman-style offensive system while in Toronto under Scott Milanovich and Marcus Brady, who is still with the club, the latter was the offensive coordinator for the Argos in 2013 when Collaros burst onto the CFL scene.

Collaros’ best season came in 2015 where he passed for 3,376 yards, 25 touchdowns and eight interceptions, completing 70 per cent of his passes. Those numbers were put up in just 12 games as he went down with an ACL injury that ended his year. That’s the kind of ability the Argos believe Collaros still possesses.

The Argonauts currently have veteran Ricky Ray at quarterback, but the 37-year-old has struggled with injuries the past few seasons – Collaros went 5-2 as a starter for the Argos with Ray sidelined in 2013.

Meanwhile, Saskatchewan has an even older pivot as their starter in 38-year-old Kevin Glenn. Even though he’s off to an impressive start this season, the Riders are clearly looking for a quarterback of the future, and recently traded for Vernon Adams. Current backup Brandon Bridge is a free agent this coming off-season.

Collaros is the highest paid player in the league this season with a base salary of $520,000. Sources say his deal for 2017 was front-loaded but the contract has another year to run.

The 29-year-old has lost 12 straight starts, one short of the CFL record has been replaced by Jeremiah Masoli for Hamilton’s upcoming Labour Day Classic. Collaros has thrown for 1,743 yards, eight touchdowns and seven interceptions with a 62.7 completion rate. He has been under duress at a higher rate than any other quarterback in the CFL this season, including 77 pressures.

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127 Comments on Ticats discussed Zach Collaros trade with Riders, received offer from Argos

  1. I still think Zach has lots to offer. I also think this year is skewed as basically every facet of the Tiger Cats is sub-par. Zach’s numbers are bad but everything else is working against him too.
    I’m not sure throwing in the towel on him now is the right move but hey, I’m just an armchair quarterback haha.
    Really really really hoping for a TiCats win on Labour Day! I’ll be there!!

    • Sea of Dead // August 31, 2017 at 8:32 am //

      I agree. If the Cats retain their present management team & coaching staff and trade Collaros to the Argos, we’ll be in the basement looking up at the Argos on top of the standings for a long, long time. Collaros will flourish there under Trestman/Condell.

    • Zach has lost the edge due to his injury. He will never be the same again. Sad but true. I wish he could see that himself and save future embarrassment.

      • Robert: “he will never be the same again”. ??? Kindly explain how you know that?
        Maybe then we can discuss your reasons. I’m sure Zach would also like know.

  2. Lennywasout // August 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm //

    This should make Zach feel really good. Bad enough he drops down the depth chart but now rumours of his being shopped around.
    I just lost some respect for Dunk. No need to report what didn’t happen and is rumour only.

    • Phil Miller // August 30, 2017 at 9:35 pm //

      It used to pee me off when Justin Dunk wrote a story like this. Not anymore. I get it now. 3rd Down Nation is the CFL’s tabloid. Hollywood could have had its hundreds of million dollar a year lawyers shut tabloids down, years ago… but they realized the value.

  3. As an Argo fan, I hope we don’t trade for him. I don’t want that salary anchoring us down.
    Wait until the cats release him outright, sign him for cheap and give up nothing to the cats.
    Be patient.

  4. Not Zach’s fault that the Oline can’t block or the D secondary can’t stop anyone or a couple of key drops/fumbles changed the momentum in certain games. Having said that, it’s past time to give Masoli another start. I firmly believe if Masoli had been put in around week 4 the Cats would have a couple wins. He thrives in broken play scenarios and We all know the Cats are the leaders there
    Oskee wee wee.

  5. If the cats trade or release Zach he will have a hall of fame career with another team just like Calvillo did. It is not his fault there is sub standard players on the offence. Increase the talent level to determine his value to the team.

    • My thoughts exactly, be a stupid move on there part. Few good young QB’s come through this league. Get him some confidence and we will se the Zach of old.

  6. Don’t think the Riders need or want that cap hit. Happy to have stick it out where he is.

  7. IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 30, 2017 at 9:12 pm //

    Bet Ti-cats wish they took that deal now!

  8. If the coaches used their brains and developed a offence that give Zach a chance to use his skills we would not be talking about this. Its not his fault the coaching staff are useless. Its called a balanced attack. Every team knows there is zero threat of a ground game so the opposing D puts all pressure on the passing attack.

  9. manny oliveira // August 30, 2017 at 9:19 pm //

    How about all the coaches and brass get the hell out of town? Start fresh with new every1! Tommy Condell as HC next year, and reload this lineup with starters, playmakers not tier 2 guys! Collaros lost his MOJO, when Condell left! It’s a crying shame what this organization has come too! Clean house ASAP!!

    • Would it be safe to say that Collaros doesn’t want to play for Austin anymore Manny ? As I’ve said before, any Cats game I’ve watched there always seems to be an awful lot of tension between the two ?

      • If Collaros didn’t want to play for Austin anymore, I wonder why Kent was so loyal to Zach. Only after firing himself and only after appointment of June Jones, is Masoli going to get to start. This should have been done weeks ago.

    • Isn’t he still under contract with the Argonauts next year?

  10. We will trade away another great QB Justus’s we always do and they go on to become stars. I will be pissed if we trade him. Let him ride the pine for awhile and see what happens. DONT TRADE ZACK

  11. combineking // August 30, 2017 at 9:21 pm //

    Who DIDN’T Jones try to get? Considering his salary makes his reason to get rid of Durant pretty questionable

    • Unless he was going to make the ticats eat a part of his salary. Just like any other sport out there, with a lucrative contract being traded. Nothing out of the ordinary. Nice try on the trolling though. 😉

    • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 3:13 pm //

      Because he’s got nothing to offer in return…

  12. Boy what great week for the Tiger-Cats. Just when you think things could not get worse…….

  13. Collaros would flourish working with Trestman.

  14. This fn tire fire is raging on. I’m getting close to being done with this team until everyone from management is fired!

    • Hang in there Conky! What other CFL team causes so much animated chat as the Tiger-Cats?
      And we can be sure there is still more to come!
      I want to be among the first to know when The Caretaker rids us of all the chaos, cleans house and sets up to a well-managed and win-driven management and coaching organization.


  15. Argo57 Agreed but not sure what the Argos would be giving in exchange. Interested to know who the three Canadians are!!! Build for the future. This could come to fruition.

    • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 30, 2017 at 9:43 pm //

      This offer may no longer be on the table. We don’t really know when these offers were made

    • Teams may choose to be patient and let the Ticat’s continue to pay Collaros a hefty salary to sit on the bench.

  16. john young // August 30, 2017 at 9:46 pm //

    kick him when he is down having a bad year running for his life behind a sad sack o line now trade rumours makes a guy really feel wanted good luck zach where ever that is.

  17. As a Rider fan I wouldn’t mind at all seeing him come to the Riders. He’d have to take a pretty substantial pay cut, but after 12 straight losses I’m guessing he’d be fine with that just to have a change to scenery and a fresh start somewhere. My prediction, however, is that after a couple of games with Masoli the Ticats are going to conclude that the problem isn’t at the QB position, and that they’d rather keep Collaros.

    • I’m happy with the qb’s we have at this point RFD and we don’t need the salary. As for Zach, pretty hard to get much momentum when you spend the game running for your life. From what I’ve read, most fans want to fire sale a few other people before giving up on Callaros ?

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 30, 2017 at 10:30 pm //

        I encourage you to really look at the stats from Friday’s game. Glenn was less than spectacular considering you put up 54 points. You really need a solution at QB

        • Lancaster/Reed // August 31, 2017 at 12:22 pm //

          Ok horsie, lets look at some stats. Glenn had 240 yds in 3 1/2 qtrs and had 2 tds and 1 unlucky interception. Bo levi has had 2 games with similar yds. Does calgary need to look at their qb situation based on those numbers?
          How about for the season so far? Bo has played 1 more game and has passed for about 350 more yds. But he has 2 less completion on 20 more attempts. Completion % – Bo 64.9, Kevin 70.2. Huh. QB rating – Bo 102.7 Kevin 101.8. Tds/int Bo 15/5 Kevin 16/8.
          Everyone knows Glenn is not a long term solution for the riders! But for a qb that is adjusting to a brand new co- ordinator, o-line and receivers, he seems to be improving and playing almost as well as Bo. Whats Bo’s excuse for being ” less than spectacular ” this season? Does calgary need a solution at QB?

          • Lmao! Yes! just yes!
            You are the man Lancaster/Reed. I don’t think you can say it any better at all.

      • I’m ok with our QBs now too, and I’m excited about next year as we stand as well. And Chris Jones’ relationship with Franklin may well land us him for next year as well. The one thing that Collaros would do for us is give us a better chance to win this year, depending on what we had to give up to get him, of course. Longer term it may well not make sense to make a deal now because we can probably sign a good QB as a FA in the off season and not have to give up any major assets.

  18. Not surprising they are shopping Collaros around. Just add him to the list of many other players who excelled somewhere else.
    their only crime? They did not fit in with Austin’s “system”. And we all know what his system eventually produced. 7 and 19 since last July before he finally fired himself. I’ll bet many of his cuts/releases/trades were glad to get away from Austin’s coaching. Zach will be no different.

    • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 2:10 pm //

      Pay attention….Kent Austin is NOT coaching now.

      Some did not play well PERIOD…

      It was June Jones’ idea to bench Collaros….you got your Masoli start…be happy!!!

      And when are we going to get away from your CONSTANT Austin bashing??

  19. Blackhawk89 // August 30, 2017 at 11:01 pm //

    Maybe they are sitting collaros till a deal can be done. Why risk your prime trade bait behind that horrible o-line and get him injured? Let Masoli be the cannon fodder.

    • I played CIS football and in the CFL too. Oline and Dline I don’t want to be a jerk, a lot of people who watch football don’t understand it. I have watch as many CFL games as I can, I have seen Hamilton play 4 or 5 times this season on tv, I think the reason the QB gets hit so much is because of the protection scheme. They never max protect, Austin released his back as a receiver to much of the time. I have never use a tightend to help protect like Toronto and Winnipeg and Edmonton do a lot. Coaches can make players look bad, I think that has happened to the oline in Hamilton. When you have played at the University level and in the CFL you see what is really going on out there.

      • So in your opinion Jeff – is the O line salvageable under Jones as the new coach ?

      • richinbanff (Rich Wilson) // August 31, 2017 at 3:25 am //

        I may not have played past high school but this is the key problem. It hasn’t been personnel, it’s been scheme and lack of balance. The other teams know what’s coming from Hamilton’s offence.

        • Puzzled Fan // August 31, 2017 at 9:00 am //

          Not only do they know … they know almost nothing is going to be done to counter what the defense is doing.

          Need a FG to win where other teams would use quick plays to get into range? Go for the slow developing, long bomb – despite the opposing defense going for the blitz.

      • Excellent post….thanks for that!

  20. Oh how I’ve missed your kind words horse – I haven’t made my teeth in days. I am pleased with Bridge and am eager to see what Adams has to offer. As for Glenn he found the end zone via air and ground and we were lucky enough to score 54 points (no skill whatsoever). Also of note bomo chucked that pig skin for 383 and only found the endzone twice ?? But what a skillfully played game that was against the powerhouse Argos zzzzzzz on a gorgeous Saturday evening. Good thing paraducks was kicking OK……

    • *mashed my teeth in days*

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 30, 2017 at 11:46 pm //

        If you really look at it Calgary O played very well. Besides the 383 yards BLM completed over 73 % of his passes. While we didn’t score a lot of points we had field position all night and had the ball 10 minutes more than Toronto. This keeps the defence off the field and fresh all game long. That’s why the D had a shut out! Calgary plays this way often. It’s the game plan. 2 defensive shut outs so far and a 7-1-1 record this year and a 22-3-2 record over a year and a half suggests it works pretty well!

        • richinbanff (Rich Wilson) // August 31, 2017 at 3:27 am //

          Agreed but keep in mind that one of the shutouts came against a team that didn’t look capable of beating ten-year old kids.

        • Your D does look scary at a good time of the year Horsie and our Eskimos will be in tough this Monday. Go ESks Go.

    • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 30, 2017 at 11:07 pm //


  21. It’s far too early to entertain any trade offers for Ticat QBs.

    Zach still has far too much potential to be sent packing, no matter what deal is/was on the table. Jeremiah has shown great value as a backup and deserves a chance to show what he can do as a starter.

    Use the remainder of the season to evaluate both, with changes to the play-calling and potentially some new offensive players, and sit tight.

    A fire is a terrible time to hold a sale, when it comes to football.

    • Good point….when you are in a turd storm….counterintuitive….SLOW DOWN…..speedy decisions at this point are unlikely to end well. Regroup as best you can and finish this years campaign. Use the off season to figure it out and take action.

    • I agree Lance. Trading Collaros would be a colossal mistake and would only come back to haunt the Ticats! I can just see all the moaning from the fans should Zach light it up in the league again with another team!

  22. pantsonfire // August 30, 2017 at 11:23 pm //

    Horsie has a point. 37 points off turnovers. Glenn was okay – should have been intercepted twice more. Reilly was bad – worst game as an Eskimo. Two intercepts nowhere near receivers & was off on throws all day. Not gonna beat anyone with 128 minutes in penalties & essentially 5 TD’s on turnovers. Welcome back Horsie. Rider guys missing you I see.

    • Missed him like a root canal. Well the if ice pants and horse onfire both agree it must be the gospel. Apparently a good defence has zero to do with a win. I would personally like to thank the Lions and Eskimos for not showing up to play – we are indeed so crappy we couldn’t have done it without your poor play.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 31, 2017 at 12:01 am //

        Your defense played great..but you can’t rely on 2 pick 6s and a block punt to win everyweek. You offense must do its part to. I good offense makes the defense better!

        • Oh I’ve so missed your one sided analogy horse.

          • Pretty sure the old saying goes…”defenses win championships” Correct me if I’m wrong. That would be a good reason why Chris Jones has a hand full of rings. 😉

  23. Argonut87 // August 30, 2017 at 11:36 pm //

    Can anybody else read? It doesn’t say the pusssy cats are shopping Collaros, maybe we were smart enough to call Hamilton. It’s obvious Ray is often injured, it’s more obvious Ray can’t get away from rushing defensive linemen. We need a young QB of the future like Collaros with Trestman coaching him will make him a great player again.

    • richinbanff (Rich Wilson) // August 31, 2017 at 3:30 am //

      This is true. The Argos looked terrible a couple of weeks ago when Ray was hurt. They need a better backup, so why not ask around?

    • Collaros has been injured just as much as Ray over his time with the tiger-cats.
      Your logic doesn’t make any sense at all.

      • Puzzled fan // September 1, 2017 at 11:18 am //

        Using games not started as a measure of injuries …

        2014 has Collaros with five games versus Ray with one game.
        2015 has Collaros with six games versus Ray with sixteen games.
        2016 has Collaros with eight games versus Ray with nine games.
        2017 has Collaros with zero games versus Ray with one games.

        More digging likely turns some of the starts into injury games to change the numbers a bit but so far, it looks like Ray has about a seven game lead.

  24. pantsonfire // August 30, 2017 at 11:43 pm //

    It’s one game dude. Means nothing. You clobbered 2 teams & got clobbered twice. Meaningless. Your 2013 GC “All-Stars” gave up 42 points & 220+ rushing yards to Stamps in season? In the end meant nothing. Esks won GC after losing 52-11 to Wpg in season. Won third of 3 GC’s after losing to Riders by 26 & 27 & beat them 51-7 in West Final. Show me a GC winner & over 50% of the time they sh*t the bed on at least one game that season. The numbers that count – 4-4. I’ll give you 4 games of 100-0 in exchange for 8 games of 20-19 any day. Sure you’ve been world beaters the last 2 games. You still got work to do.

    • Cowabunga dude….we suck, and the sun will rise and set on the stamps. Praise God for such a heavenly team. Over n out ice pants

    • Lol Even if we destroyed Winnipeg this weekend like we did to BC and Edmonton. Would any of your opinions change? Why even try to preach to us about we got work to do? A hater is gonna hate regardless. Enough said.
      You better hope the esks get healthy soon… it would be a shame to miss the playoffs after starting 7-0 😉

  25. onemoredork // August 30, 2017 at 11:45 pm //

    Austin failed to protect Collaros by investing in his offensive line and refusing to run the ball. Now his career is ruined. The arm has lost a lot of its pop, mobility and confidence are gone.

    • Puzzled Fan // August 31, 2017 at 9:04 am //

      Lots of other QBs in similar mode changed scenery or coaches then recovered.

      Career is ruined seems premature.


  27. It is obvious as a clear day that Austin erred in helping Collaros with some impact receivers.What would Trevor Harris do without Greg Ellingson and Brad Sinopoli? Harris would not be able to complete a pass.
    Skillful receivers can make difficult passes that can greatly enhance a passers statistical record.Second, the unexpected retirement of two good offensive linemen must have rocked Austin who should had better communication with his players.
    Collaros guarded by rookies and elderly discards from other teams is a tape and staple effort with little football merit.
    Austin was right to step down because with the proper planning and football foresight the Cats had a 50/50 chance of being in the Grey Cup this year.Coach Kent Austin masterminded this catastrophic failure with a Grey cup entrance just within reach – the greatest failure of his career and of any coach.

    • “Cats had a 50/50 chance of being in the Grey Cup this year” – with all due respect Cisco, the top team in the East has 4 wins and the next 2 sit tied at 3. It is the CFL and you have 10 games left to do something. Maybe with the bye and all of the Cat bashing going on – the boys will come out pis*ed with something to prove against TO and begin their climb. Only takes a positive attitude, a few wins, and the a couple of losses from same division teams. One convincing win can ignite a fire and that could start Monday ?

    • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 2:14 pm //

      It doesn’t help when your best receivers (Tolliver and Fantuz) are out of the lineup….

  28. Dougall Cameron // August 31, 2017 at 1:07 am //

    Maybe Zach himself is to blame for his misfortunes, if he is inhaling over $500k as a QB. BLM in Calgary is only at 380k. The Stamps then spend the rest on an O- line that keeps him standing and not having his confidence shredded with every hit. Good QBs get paid but never win. Great QBs take less, win more and use the winning to generate income outside of football. See Tom Brady as the shining example. Zach can look in the mirror for his biggest problems.

    • Marc Antony // August 31, 2017 at 2:34 am //

      That’s ridiculous. Seriously.

    • richinbanff (Rich Wilson) // August 31, 2017 at 3:32 am //

      Don’t use Brady as an example! There have been whispers for years about him being paid outside the salary cap.

      • I hope u r kidding with that? Take a look at what Mrs Brady makes…..too funny!
        TB12 must have been created in a laboratory…..best brain in football….physical skills to back it up…incredible heart and discipline to make it all work….Oh and let’s not forget all those games won and the banners too…..must have cheated and gotten away with it for over a decade now? I can see why haters hate on him. Highest form of respect these days I guess.

      • Maybe the smoke out in the west is affecting your brain. Best QB, ever, hands down. The over rated and over paid Collaros couldn’t even hold his jockstrap.

  29. Now untradable with a salary that high.

  30. Agree, Joann. Don’t trade him. BLM is a bargain but going price for top notch QB was set when Taman signed Durant for $500k after 2013 season. Collaros young & arguably among best when he got his deal. If he was worth 3 Nationals & high draft pick, what are Esks going to ask for Franklin? I’d say we would have to pony up for a lot more than what we got for Durant. As for Collaros, price may be down but I can see him rebounding. Also there are a few teams who will be looking for good younger pivots with good upside come 2018.

    • QBs are so central to football and so few good ones around….hard to blame teams for stretching and overpaying at times. I think the commenters talking about Oline development are on to a good strategy….maybe the gap between the best and lest there is open to wider advantage than mostly mediocre QB to mediocre QB? Likely less costly too.

      • Puzzled Fan // August 31, 2017 at 9:13 am //

        Question is … while looking around to rebuild the O line, will the offense play calling add plays that can help, in the short term?

    • Well, the Eskimos better be doing something sooner than later. Franklin becomes a free agent and can sign with anyone. That’s the problem with not trading someone outside his contract year, unless the Eskimos make a deal soon. Seen it with Kent Austin and Tom Burgess, also Durant and Drew Willy. Both free agents ended up in Winnipeg. Burgess was a keeper. Drew Willy seems to be a dud.

  31. I wonder if the Cats made a mistake valuing Zach so highly. 1/2 a million would buy both Jon Jennings and Travis Lulay (both who rate higher than Zach) and leave enough change for a decent O lineman. Casey Printers comes to mind back a decade or so ago when the Cats outbid everyone for him. Around 1/2 a mil and not much out of him, either. Once he was gone they got better as I recall and if I”m not hallucinating again. So dumping Zach frees up a ton of money to spend on better O line or whatever. Sad, but it could be a good move for them. Specially if Masoli turns out to be a player or they can get someone else at 250 or 300 to replace Zach.

    • Being centimental about any one player can derail a franchise for years…..true enough…..they need to remove emotion from the equation and make a football determination…..ink on contract is dry….set it aside as best they can.

      • Lancaster/Reed // August 31, 2017 at 4:07 pm //

        Yes, that sentimentality in riderville has kept the team down at times. Top coaches like Wally and The Don have known that for a long time and are/were not afraid to cut loose a popular player when he thought they were past their prime, or not worth the salary they were beng paid.

    • Yes they did. Over valued. Over paid.

  32. Curious… what QB holds the record for 13 straight losses?

    • Puzzled Fan // August 31, 2017 at 9:19 am //

      Assuming this include playoffs, some digging is required. Collaros is at eleven straight losses.

      • Puzzled: Obviously you have missed previous chat on here and on the Tiger-Cats website about Collaros. He did NOT lose 11 games. Austin has lost 19 games since last July and is totally responsible for bad game planning, a horrible O-line and weak defence. It’s his team top to botton and it has turned into disorganized mess. He fired himself which kinda tells you where the real problem lies.

        • Puzzled Fan // August 31, 2017 at 1:35 pm //

          Whether I missed it or not, whether the factors listed are more/less important than Collaros’ performance and whether so much credit/blame for the QB makes sense – the question was about QB’s with loss streaks.

          Like it or not … QBs get written up all the time for win and loss streaks, where it comes with the territory.

          The Austin effect versus the Collaros effect is all over the comments on this article so that wasn’t my focus. If you want to highlight it to Gaijin then fine. It is a waste of time to point it out to me as I’ve been questioning Austin’s decisions / offense design for over two years now.

          • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 2:18 pm //

            The guy is obsessed with bashing Austin. I’m sure he has a voodoo doll with Kent’s name on it.

            Trust me, it’s not you, Puzzled.

  33. It is time that fans accept that 2017 Collarus is a different Collarus. Stop making excuses. Collarus 2017 has played scared since game 1 – has had happy feet, not making reads quickly enough, holding onto the ball far too long, won’t run etc, etc. When did Collarus become strictly a pocket passer, less likely to run than Brady? Collarus more worried about not getting hurt than excelling. He’s clearly lost his edge.

    • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 2:30 pm //

      All of this is because he’s not feeling secure in the pocket.

      Fix the problem in front of him and you will see a better Collaros.

  34. The trade of Collaros would have been required to accomodate the salary Manziel would have needed. They would not have been able to pay both so clearing Zachs would have worked. Now that Manziel is flushed, Collaros is going nowhere – nor should he. Scouting, drafting, free agency, etc have sucked since Tillman arrived… matter of fact, this team has taken a collosal nosedive since they hired Tillman.

    • Exactly. Unless Collaros wants out of all this nonsense.
      I’d hate to see him go if there is a house cleaning and a new coaching staff for next season. And maybe we will need him at some point this season if Masoli can’t deliver.

      • Puzzled Fan // August 31, 2017 at 1:38 pm //

        That’s where Masoli’s play in the next game is an indicator, IMO.

        In 2014, he was trying to do too much. He seemed to clean that up in 2015 and 2016. The little I have seen of him in 2017, it looked to me to be a repeat of 2014, he was forcing the play too much.

      • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 2:20 pm //

        If Collaros is traded, it doesn’t matter what he wants…

  35. Would not be the least bit surprised to see Collaros restructure his contract with the Ticats and extend the term with a pay cut involved for the term extension. This would be a win win for both sides.

  36. Two words….Anthony Calvillo! Remember him? He played for Cats and started struggling, so they shipped him off to Montreal. And look what he did there!

  37. I hope Ari is right. Since we’re a team so big on giving second chances why release Zach before giving him one? Restructuring the contract makes sense since nobody will pay Zach 1/2 million at this point.

  38. Not a bad idea to rest up Zach until the offensive line can improve. He is not a scrambler and is just getting killed. Put in a mobile qb until the line improves.

  39. I think Collaros’s problem lies
    somewhere in the middle – bad offensive line schemes and poor scared play since his injury. He probably would play better with Trestman as his coach but he’d fail miserably with the Riders who are relying on quick reads and getting rid of the ball fast. In any event, he isn’t worth 10% of the salary cap so I hope the Riders aren’t dumb enough to trade for him. The ticats did fleece Jones for Collins though so anything is possible.

    • Lol, I guess I can forgive you since this is a situation we haven’t seen in Sask for a long time, but the trades of Collins and now Guy are a product of us having a great GM who has now developed great depth. I thought Guy looked great in training camp at C and I had him penciled in as our future starter, but now after we went the veteran route and moved Labatte to C after Clark’s injury, where he has looked even better, what do we do with Guy? We have Bladek, JSJ, Zver, and Andusei as guard prospects as well. Collins was in a similar situation. I really like him and think he can be a very good starting receiver this league, but right now he couldn’t crack our 46.

  40. Collaros is clearly not showing he’s worth $520K. I understand he’s the most pressured QB, but his numbers are still not good enough, and he’s thrown too many picks because of his own bad decisions. Riders might be interested – but not at that price.

    • Tiger man // August 31, 2017 at 2:25 pm //

      It’s hard to make good decisions when you are forced into survival mode on almost every down….

  41. Star players make everyone around them better – see Reilly, Lulay, Ray, even KG and begudgingly bopeep. Collaros isnt doing that despite taking the highest salary. The Riders don’t need him.

  42. pantsonfire // August 31, 2017 at 1:51 pm //

    Well the Riders obviously need someone otherwise why the continuing auditions going on in Saskatchewan. This year first there was Bennett in training camp, Young, talk of Heaps coming in, a QB controversy after Vancouver game with fans calling for Bridge, now Adams. Glenn is paid backup money & it is clear he is not long term unless you’re thinking Glenn will be #1 next year. You currently have the 2016 Als QB trio. When you said you were going younger I didn’t expect that your starter would be 3 years older & the backups would all be untested. As long as Jones keeps churning QB’s it’s clear HE thinks he needs someone even if his Rider groupies believe they have 1 mentor & 3 budding superstars.

    • Man you really can blow a ton of smoke out of your A$$. Do you even believe half of what comes out of your mouth?
      Lets start with that Als trio comment… the only difference between us and the Als is… we are aren’t the Als. We can actually win with these guys. How well is Durant working out for them right now?
      Still lots of time to find a QB yet. We have a vet playing just as good as anybody in the league right now, with the young guys waiting for their chance. So much can happen in the offseason. I don’t even know why this is a point for so many people right now?

  43. Matt Duckworth // August 31, 2017 at 6:00 pm //

    If any team wants Zach Collaros they can have him. If one of the other teams want Collaros is Hamilton eats part of the contract.

  44. NO! NO! NO! Look at Hamilton’s history when they trade away quality QB’s

  45. Am disappointed but not surprised Argos would go after Zach. I like Zach but was hoping Argos would go with Fajardo to be the future of The Argos. Pretty clear that Trestman does not share my view because he bypassed Cody Fajardo to start the one game against the Als. I am sick of hearing about Tommy Condell from Hamilton now with Argos, the guy does not know squat, and is only giving bad advice.

    If Argos end up going after Zach, I would hope part of the deal would he would change the spelling of his name to Zack so that it`s not so confusing

  46. Tommy Condell has done enough damage already. First he talks Trestman in to going with Mathews, I guess Rob Freakin Sack King Rob Johnson was not available.

    Not sure but I think it was Tommy Condell that brought Mathews to Toronto. Now he wants to get Zach, maybe he can get Kent Austin also.

    BTW I like Zach, but we already had him, lets make Cody Fajardo the future. Am starting to think Trestman is not the great football mind we are being told about.

    Think about it, he came to Montreal and took over a great team that had a great coach and a great QB. Look at his most recent big decision, going with Mathews at QB ahead of Cody Fajardo, looked like a dear in headlights. If Cody had the reps and started we would have won that game

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