Bombers paid Durant $70K in bonuses, want it back: reports

The Blue Bombers have paid quarterback Darian Durant $70,000 in bonus money since signing him in January according to reports coming out of Winnipeg

And the Bombers would like their money back.

Durant signed with the Bombers in January, just days after being released by Montreal. The Alouettes reportedly let Durant go just hours before he was due a $150,000 roster bonus as a part of the three-year deal he signed before the 2017 season.

Durant was set to be the primary back up behind Matt Nichols this season and his departure, which reportedly caught the Bombers by surprise, leaves the team with very little experience behind their starter. Alex Ross, who appeared in four CFL games for the B.C. Lions, completing five of 12 passes for 82 yards last season, would likely be the guy.

The $70,000 will also count against the Bombers salary cap.


174 Comments on Bombers paid Durant $70K in bonuses, want it back: reports

  1. They should get it back. Absolutely

    • Huff's Neighbor // May 11, 2018 at 10:12 am //

      Why? If a player can be cut right before receiving one. Than they can change their mind after the fact and decide to call it. Works both ways lou.

      • What? That’s an apples to oranges situation.
        What would you say if Duron Carter and Zach Collaros retired this afternoon and the riders were out $300.000.00 ??????

      • Totally agree… he must’ve been just steamed after Montreal pulled his bonus and cut him.

    • They shouldn’t have paid it up front.
      You hear so much about people hiring contractors and they want the money up front. No you don’t pay a guy up front, you can’t get the money back if they don’t show up.

    • RiderPrider // May 11, 2018 at 11:31 am //

      Hey Red,

      I remember when the Riders signed and paid a bonus to a former Stampeders (Maurice Price) receiver who abruptly resigned, and kept the bonus. You didn’t call for his head then, so what’s changed?

      Two things:

      1. Price didn’t give any indication of a potential retirement, whereas Durant actually indicated to the team he was contemplating retiring, despite whether he made his announcement on social media.

      2. Durant is a former Roughrider with no ties to the Stampeders so it gets your rocks off to denegrate and trash Durant’s character for this move. Price pulls the same move? No problems.

      Players take their bonuses and retire all the time nowadays. Like many others have already said, I can understand why the organizations would be unhappy but I support the players here. They get cut all the time before they are due bonuses that both parties agreed to. This has happened to the Riders between 3-5 times in the past 3 years and you don’t hear us crying about it.

      • ??????
        Your last statement is to pontificate about rider fans stoic nature
        And your first statement is complaining about Stamp fans stoic nature.
        Fickle as a green pickle !!!!!

      • What about when chick and dresser were to get bonuses from the sliders and they released them before the they were paid their earned bonuses ,so I don’t feel sorry for the sliders as they have screwed many players over the years

    • Mo Price didn’t have to give it back…

    • Why can’t people understand that bonuses are aa prepayment to a player for the upcoming season not the past season.,He wasn’t even on Winnipeg’s team last year But it shows how much class Durant really has GO RIDERS GO55

    • Jeff Garcia's Agent // May 11, 2018 at 2:21 pm //

      In 2016 Maurice Price was traded to the Riders from Ottawa. The next day, he signed a two year extension which came with an $80,000 signing bonus. Less than two months later, he retired without ever playing a down. Not a dime was paid back. Very little was made of it in the media when it happened.

    • Rider Fan // May 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm //

      Mr red they won’t get it back. The same happened to the riders. Live and learn

  2. They have zero recourse to get it back, just another example of players getting a bonus & then retiring.
    Not very honourable on Durant’s part for sure!

  3. IndiannaJones5 // May 11, 2018 at 10:16 am //

    They should not get it back.

    – Teams release players the day before a bonus is due all the time.
    – Players find out they’ve been cut via social media all the time.

    Works both ways.

  4. Jeremiah was a bullfrog // May 11, 2018 at 10:20 am //

    Think all you want Red. Personally I can’t think of any player giving bonus money back under any circumstances. SK over the past 2 years had players sign get bonuses and retire. Not one of them returned any of the money what so ever.
    Every player in the league that retires feels the CFL and the team or teams they played for took advantage of them 1 time or another. No team ever said after the fact. I’m sorry you were injured last year and your no where near the same player and no body wants you now. What can we do to help. Instead the second he’s of the IR list they are cut from the team and are often faced with the end of their career.

    • marc olivier brouillette gave back his bonus when he retired a day before training camp last season.

      • Riders34 // May 11, 2018 at 1:31 pm //

        lol Marc is a working lawyer, so in the LONG run after football he has ZERO financial concerns. he is more or les splaying fort he love of the game, a number of the American born players do not have the same realistic educational base ( sadly much conjecture regarding their fluff university degrees ). But point taken , it does show Marc is a person of great character/virtue and deserves respect for his decision. Very glad that Marc is back for another year with the Riders!!! Thanks Kavis /Als for giving up on him , lol . Last point on Marc— ever notice how the CIS guys have a much more solid educational qualification to fall back on post football, good job CIS—Usports.

  5. solara2000 // May 11, 2018 at 10:22 am //

    Once bitten, twice shy.
    Change the terms of the signing bonus. Lots of options.

    Having said that, it does make Durant look less than honourable, legally correct, but…….

    • The one change that could be made is to stipulate that a signing bonus in such circumstances does not count against the cap… of

      • teddybb // May 11, 2018 at 10:33 am //

        I would think it makes more sense to include a clause that stipulates it’s returnable if they dont dress for a regular season game. Learning moment for walters for sure

    • One can’t just change the terms on the signing bonus without changing the terms of the CBA

      • Curious can a team pursuant to cab say get a contract with a signing bonus say 30k and in contract fist game played a contract bonus if 45k??

        You may know.

  6. Do what’s right Darian

  7. Maurice Price took the money and ran.

  8. Durant should ask Montreal if they’d like to change their minds about that $150K bonus! If they say yes, then it might make sense to give Winnipeg their $70K back. 😉

    • So what you’re saying is 2 wrongs make a right?

      • Greengo // May 11, 2018 at 1:13 pm //

        SUcks for the bombers but all teams cut guys loose before bonuses and if the teams are smart enough to add clauses to the contract then it’s their own fault. Jones had a few of these signings in his first year with the riders that took the money and ran, none since though, you live you learn.

  9. Let him keep it.

  10. Just saying // May 11, 2018 at 10:30 am //

    Looks bad but it was a signing bonus and I believe he did sign a contract. What makes it worse is I believe he had no intention from the minute he signed that he would be in camp. And here again another example of useing the family card.

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 10:38 am //

      I think he really did want to play for the bombers when he signed the contract. Who would want his time in montreal to be his last memory as a player, but i think the birth of his daughter changed his outlook on life after signing, and as training camp approached, he found that his heart really wasnt in it anymore.

  11. Ibleedgreen1111 // May 11, 2018 at 10:31 am //

    I have to sit on the fence on this one. Since i can understand both sides of the issue.

    Team cuts player before said promised bonus. Team saves salary cap space and screws over the player.

    Player is paid promised bonus. Player retires after being paid. Uses up salary cap space and screws over the team.

    I have no problem with giving the bonuses. It’s how they are promised and paid out.The CFL has to rework how the contracts are worded when it comes to the pay out of the bonuses.

    Something along the lines all bonuses are guaranteed on Jan 1st. That gives the teams a month to decide what they are doing with each player they have under contract.

    If a player retires before the 1st regular season game they have to repay all bonuses received.

    Go Riders!
    Go CFL!!

  12. So these teams are all businesses, we are their customers. Much like Walmart, every time someone steals from the store, we pay for it in higher prices.
    Remember that all you liberals saying “Good on Durant for sticking it to the man”

    • Actually, Bombers fans will pay for it in *potentially* lower talent level on the field. In all likelihood, it amounts to fewer depth signings in the second half of the season.

      This is the inherent risk in offering upfront money with no conditions. Go ahead, ask for the money back. Maybe you’ll get it, maybe you won’t. That’s up to the player, fair ‘n’ square. It’s not stealing if both parties agreed to the terms in the contract.

    • Greengo // May 11, 2018 at 1:16 pm //

      Don’t be dumb red, the teams are stealing it back and more when they cut guys right before a bonus. It’s an easy fix, don’t give a signing bonus without service.

  13. This is no way can be compared to stealing. This is a contract, agreed by both parties and both parties take a risk. How many players were cut right accross the league? Is that stealing then. Works both ways. Only difference here it is usually the player who misses out.

    • It is stealing. The bombers are giving you that money to provide a service, no service was provided therefore no money. Easy concept.
      I’m sorry, but those feeling for the players who get cut prior to bonuses being paid are entering into a situation where they fully understand this possibility. Perhaps players and their agents would be smarter to sign less flashy contracts to assure greater long term incentive for that team to keep them- a more realistic pragmatic approach to the CFL player and his agent.

      Does anyone know how an agent is paid in the CFL? I suspect it’s a percentage of the total deal signed. Think about that? In the case of the CFL who is the agent really looking out for?

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 11:19 am //

        So mr ed, did you demand that Price give the riders the bonus money back when he did the same thing 2 yrs ago? Did you call him classless? Or did you laugh and say jones deserved it by signing that contract? Just how deep is your hypocrisy?

        • I wasn’t on 3 downnation when Maurice Price retired. Wrong is wrong

        • I just did a little research. Maurice Price was acquired in a trade, Durant signed freely as an FA.
          Not saying it’s right or wrong, but there are different circumstances.

      • The Bombers gave DD money to convince him to sign a contract with them, and forfeit his right to sign with another team. That’s the only thing a signing bonus accomplishes. It’s called a signing bonus for a reason. It doesn’t guarantee playtime, and it’s not considered a fee for service. Kyle Walters took a calculated risk assuming that DD wanted to spend the season as a backup, he felt that risk was worth $70k, and that risk fell through on him. It’s as simple as that.

      • Red. Is it stealing when a team signs a kid to a deal at $140k but partway through the deal “renegotiates” the deal down to $90k … on a take it get cut basis? THAT feels like stealing to me. And that happens all the time.

        And as for your idea that players would be wise to avoid flashy high bonus deals … ya right. Just trust the team to do right by ya.. sure.

        CFL contracts are ridiculously one sided. Each year dozens of players get screwed. Looks good to me when a player turns the table.

        Players should adopt the pirates code. Take what you can and give nothing back .,.

  14. Another example of a player infected with green-itis. Every player who puts on that horrible jersey, leaves a trail of dishonour and greed, and drug addiction.

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 10:48 am //

      Says the most metally disturbed person immaginable. Was it the stamps jersey that turned you into a monster,or were you born that way? Red’s mom? What was it?

      • Pretty sure Roy Finch never donned a Rider jersey. lol
        You must be thinking about the Drug dealing/thug Red jersey. I can understand why you were confused.

      • BTW. Going to go get the big rubbermaid container out of my storage room that holds all my Stamps stuff! Fanfest goes tomorrow.
        The white stallion is out of the stable!!!!!!

        The Calgary Stampeders, Canada’s Champion!!!

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 12:10 pm //

          Canada’s champion? They are not even grey cup champs. Dont you remember them brilliantly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? Are you truly that delusional? THE STAMPS CHOKED. AGAIN.

          • Absolutely Canada’s Champion.
            They represent everything good and right about the country.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 12:12 pm //

          Enjoy the day mr ed. Im sure all 8 of the stamps fans that show up will enjoy themselves. Try to make a friend. Just dont be yourself.

        • Mr hemoRED // May 11, 2018 at 3:09 pm //

          And the sheep run scared. The bunkhouse is open for business cow pokes. Remember don’t be Bahaaaaaaaaad

        • Lived in Calgary for 40+ years and have never heard of any of their teams referred to,as Canada’s team. Not even Alberta’s team

    • A rider fan playing games again

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 11:11 am //

        No mr ed, i truly believe you have deep pschological issues and are one bad day away from being the cause of great grief and pain in someones life. Either a family member or an innocent bystander. Seek professional counselling.

      • But Red, you’re a Rider fan so I don’t understand?

  15. Its not bonus money, its money up front for future services. IMO the league should look into disallowing these kind of “perks”.

  16. Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 10:46 am //

    I am pretty surprised the bombers felt compelled to give him a signing bonus. It wasnt like there was a long list of teams looking for a backup. Edmonton, (montreal doesnt count) was the only other team looking for a backup during the offseason, and when darian signed, edmonton had already signed Glenn.

  17. Bomber Fan In The Stands // May 11, 2018 at 10:49 am //

    Durant has no class, period. To leave the game like this, and screw over a team that at least gave him a chance to reboot is struggling career, the man can burn in football hell. If he decides to come out of retirement, do the Bombers get their $70k back?

    No Class!

    • Burn in hell Bombers // May 11, 2018 at 10:52 am //

      LMAO The Bombers are getting what they deserve, much like Calgary they suck…..

      • How are you going to survive watching Winnipeg hoist the Stanley Cup 4 weeks from now?? I can’t imagine how ridernation will lash out against that.

        • I cant wait to watch the Jets hoist the Stanley Cup. what to the Jets have to do with Darian Durant keeping a 70K bonus other than the city? I actually love Winnipeg, and don’t mind the Bombers or the fans there at all. GO JETS!!!!

        • Rider Fan // May 12, 2018 at 7:42 am //

          Go Jets I support Canada. Shame on you mr red

    • I agree with your comments. What did the Bombers do except to give him an opportunity to reignite his career.Teams do it all the time if it suits them kind of a dirty business.

  18. Durant gave no indication this was even a consideration when he took the money. Yes, teams do take liberties in cutting players due bonuses. This is not retribution for that. The Bombers do not deserve to pay the price for MTL cutting DD just before his bonus was due. The Bombers are loyal to a fault. DD has left a shartstain on his career with this move. Pure disdain for the league, and a team that was willing to give him a chance to continue his career.

  19. Chris AB // May 11, 2018 at 10:56 am //

    shady of Durant

    maybe the bigger question, why would any team bring on Durant, especially after he was skipping most of his balls off the turf in Montreal like a kid skipping stones on a lake

  20. solara2000 // May 11, 2018 at 11:04 am //

    Hope he wasn’t thinking of a next step into a broadcasting opportunity (other than outside Sask for sure).

  21. That’s karma, Bomber Fan.

    Winnipeg’s late hit on Durant after the whistle on a dead play that ended his season in 2014 cost the Riders back-to-back Grey Cup championships.

    I always loved Durant for being such a warrior and now I love him even more for screwing over Winnipeg.

    LMAO at Bomber Fan.

  22. Random Rider Fan // May 11, 2018 at 11:07 am //

    I have to say this makes Durant a true Rider legend. Kicking the Bombers twice (late retirement, 70k to the cap) as his final act of loyalty to the Riders. It was all make fun of Chris Jones when Price did it to us two years ago so this looks good on Kyle Walters.

    • Agree 100% – – big ups to Durant for screwing the Bombers one last time.

      Winnipeg braintrust deserves it though – – why would they be so stupid to give thrir back up QB that kind of up front money?

      It’s like Ky Walters asking a gas sniff in downtown Winnipeg to hold his wallet.

    • this is the kind of thing rider fans take victory in????

  23. big guy // May 11, 2018 at 11:13 am //

    By the letter of the CBA he has done nothing wrong. Also by the letter of the CBA the Bombers did nothing wrong by giving him the bonus. Its life and has, I am sure, happened to every team at some point. 79K won’t make or break the Bombers season, keeping their QB healthy will. The CBA is so tilted toward the mgmt. side that when something like this happens everyone gets excited. Gotta love the CFL.

  24. Not a band wagon jumper // May 11, 2018 at 11:16 am //

    He is not honourable for 2 reasons. Firstly, “retiring “ a week before training camp, leaving the Bombers without a suitable backup; secondly, for not giving them back the money he was paid upfront. He was paid $70K for future services, which he is not providing.
    Not to get into a personal attack, as many people wrote earlier on this blog have done, it is enough to mention the facts.
    No team deserves to be treated this way, nor is a player deserving to be cut before receiving a bonus earned. Montreal did it twice, once to Muamba and then to Durant. Sask did it to Muamba also.
    The irony is that Muamba went back to Mtl, perhaps it shows how brain works.
    This is the CFL – gotta love it!

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 11:29 am //

      He was not paid the $70k for future services. That is what his yearly salary is. This was a “ signing bonus”. That should be self explanatory. It is a bonus for signing the contract. That it. There are no future considerations in a signing bonus. The bombers have every right to be mad about it, as did the riders when price did it to them. And the players have every right to be mad for being released just before receiving a bonus. But that is the way the law works in these situations. The players have no more legal or moral obligation to return the money, as the teams do when they cut a player before a bonus.

      • I disagree, as the bonus is part of his contract to provide football playing services for the upcoming season.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 11:50 am //

          Well if that is the case, then teams should have to pay the bonus money, since it was part of the contract for services rendered.

          • No, because CFL contracts are not guaranteed meaning that a player can be released prior to the season & thus prior to the bonus being paid…

          • They do pay for services rendered. That’s what the pay stub found in theirs lockers the morning after a game is.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 12:15 pm //

          Well, the league and the law disagrees with you on this issue.

          • What do you think about a salaried employee how works for a company for 13 years, is laid off and not paid a severance?

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 12:33 pm //

            Is that what happened to you mr ed? Did a boss (who happened to be a rider fan) fire your a** after 13 years. No severence? Because your awkward personality creeped him and the female employees out? Is that when you became the rider troll we all know and loathe?

  25. Pinball // May 11, 2018 at 11:43 am //

    His to keep…
    Worksboth ways.

  26. Pinball // May 11, 2018 at 12:09 pm //

    Now, I guess Durant has no plans to ever work in the CFL again.

  27. Ken orford // May 11, 2018 at 12:10 pm //

    I am surprised at the opinions of some. Durant’s accolades by sportswriters and sportscasters, always said he was a gentleman, and dedicated. Clearly the age old adage of “the love of money is the root of all evil”, applies here. His signing effected other decisions to sign other players due to the salary. Now, he may have scuttled the season for an up and coming team. That does not sound like a classy move. Retirement is one thing, and we should all wish him well. However should he be so dishonorable by keeping money that will count against the bombers salary cap, is somewhat despicable.

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 12:21 pm //

      Even if he gave the money back, im not sure that in any way would void the contract the cfl has registered. I think the bombers would still have to take the cap hit.

    • Paul Bomber // May 11, 2018 at 12:37 pm //

      I haven’t had much respect for him since he led an open revolt in the media against his own head coach (Greg Marshall) because he wasn’t being treated like a princess.

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 1:42 pm //

        Greg Marshall was put in a no win situation by the riders that year. Darian knew that greg had no real authority, and only wanted to play for Coach Miller. I did lose some respect for durant that season.

        • Greg Marshall was one of the worst head coaches in CFL history. Right up there with Bart Andrus and Skippy Huard.

          As evidenced by never getting another sniff for a CFL coaching job again.

          Anything Durant might have done to get Marshall fired should be rejoiced by Rider fans.

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 4:11 pm //

            Im not saying he would have been good or was good. Im just saying that when he accepted the offer, the riders told him who his assistant coaches were, and miller was still on the sidelines in practice , interacting with the players. The players knew that marshall wasnt really in charge, and marshall’s stint as coach was doomed right from the start.

        • Take this // May 12, 2018 at 1:58 am //

          A lot of people lost respect for Marshall that year. He threw a lot of players under the bus. I remember his reply when the media asked him after a particularly bad loss, what he thought of the execution of the defence. Marshall’s reply was that he was in favor of it.

  28. Bush league move by Durant. No class at all.

  29. Paul Bomber // May 11, 2018 at 12:33 pm //

    I thought he’d screw us by being an piece of crap QB who should have retired 3-4 years ago. I didn’t see this one coming. Why would Walters have given this dirtbag 70 cents though I’ll never know!

  30. Oh this looks so good on WPG. Haha.

    • So will the Stanley Cup Haha.

      • WPG would probably confuse the Stanley Cup for a toilet.

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 1:15 pm //

        I hope the Jets do win the Cup. Winnipeg sports fans have been waiting a long time for a championship. Ive taked with a lot of bomber fans at labour day games, and most seemed like pretty good people. Not at all like you mr ed.

  31. Good parting memories of Darian…..complete bust in Montreal then pulls this crap…kinda overshadows the good things he did.

  32. Hahaha that is hilarious, way to go DD!

  33. One last win for DD over the Bummers… I like it

  34. OH, HOW I LOVE THIS! The bombers forget that they got Dressler for nothing, because Jones didn’t want to pay him a 60K bonus…FURTHERMORE… What goes around, comes around! This is the ULTIMATE tit for tat…or…uh hit for cash. The bombers late hit on DD effectively ended his career. He was never the same after that…and it aborted a first-place team from advancing. Sure, he came back, and got inured again. But, if not for the late hit, SK. probably wins back-to-back GCs, and DD is an instant legend. If MTl. pay him the 150K, and Price gives back the 80k, then, and only then, should DD pay back. This league, and the CBA, is a joke. The players can get summarily cut, while their contracts are used to start fires. It is so good when, sometimes, a player takes something back.

    • Thanks Dakaz – I forgot about that late hit. Not only was it a cheap late hit, the scum of the earth Bomber fans cheered when it became obvious Durant was injured. Karma Bombers, Karma.

    • The dude was a glass qb…..he farted and ruptured his Achilles !

    • greenenvy? // May 11, 2018 at 1:40 pm //

      That’s complete nonsense. Back to back Grey Cups?? The only teams Riders beat in 2014 when DD went 8-2 before the injury were teams that ended up at or below .500. The 2 dominant teams in 2014 were Jones’ Eskimos & the Stamps, by far the class of the league. The 2014 Riders had lost Dressler, Sheets, Alex Hall,Simon, Picard, Shologan, Evans, Butler, Schmitt among others. The 1st 3 were all-Stars. The Stamps only lost 3 games, the Eskimos only 3 vs teams not called the Stamps. One was the final game vs Saskatchewan where Esks rested their key players. To think the Riders could get by that Esk team or Stamp team is pure fantasy. About time you stopped rewriting history on 2014. They were on the last legs of a golden era from 2007-2013. It was an old team in 2013.

      • Take this // May 11, 2018 at 3:10 pm //

        Not disagreeing with you but the Riders didn’t lose Dressler until the big cut of 2016.

        • greenenvy? // May 11, 2018 at 3:58 pm //

          Not entirely correct. Dressler signed a futures contract with KC Chiefs early in 2014. Came back to the Riders late August 2014 after he was waived in the NFL.

    • Agree 100% that Regina likely would have gone back to back Grey Cups if not for that cheap shot on a dead play in 2014.

  35. Quick! Someone call Darrin “Bomberfan” Bauming a WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE – he is definitely butt hurt.

  36. Darian = O

    • his Achilles went the following year…and, yes, I remember the Bomber fans cheering when DD got hurt. That was one of the most classless things I have ever heard. I have never failed to acknowledge the contribution to the game, with polite applause, when even a much-disliked opposing player goes down. To all the classless fans out there: when a guy goes down, just remember he has family that he supports, getting paid truck-driver wages, and he puts his short-term and long-term health on the line to entertain you, so show some respect.

      • Rider fans stood and cheered as Nik Lewis was taken off the field in the old Mosiac, Nik even talks about hearing fans yell “I hope your career is over”

        Riderfans are the last fans who should preach about class.

        • If some drunken lout talks trash, he isn’t representative of all fans. ie. I have very close friends in CGY. They are stamp fans, and we can have civilized football conversations. Unlike yourself, most Stamp fans are not paranoid, teeth-gnashing trolls.
          Similarly, we just had supper with very close family friends who used to live in Wpg…staunch Bomber fans…great discussions. And, while there was a significant number of BB fans cheering DD’s injury, hopefully, they were not in the majority.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 3:07 pm //

          What year was that? 2013?

        • Quit acting like you know anything about what fans yelled years ago Red. You are a piece of trash.

  37. Ticats1 // May 11, 2018 at 1:26 pm //

    Atta boy Darian, take the money and run, gotta look out for number 1. Winnipeg should never of offered him a signing bonus, were they the only ones who couldn’t see his playing days were over ?

  38. Not sure how I feel about this. Ill always love Darian as a Rider fan, and I’ve always had respect for the Bombs. But they want the $$ back? Under what conditions did he retire? Did something come up? Or was this his master plan? If he planned on screwing the Bombs over, then dick move Darian, and pay the $$ back. But it seems that this is the shitty part of the business. …and it can go both ways? Apparently. If Darian has every right to this 70K, I cant say I wouldn’t do the same thing. If that makes me a terrible person in the eyes of CFL/Bomber fans… well, whogivesashit.

  39. 3rd and 1 // May 11, 2018 at 1:30 pm //

    I can assure everyone and especially Bomber fans that Darian had every intention of attending camp with the Bombers. I know for a fact that Darian had accepted his position with Winnipeg. Please keep in mind people that Darian has been on the sideline and hardly or not played any not just once but several times in his CFL career. The 1st 3 years on SK then a half season in 2014 and a full season in 2015. So Darian can mentally accept that role.
    I think what people are forgetting is how quickly a deal with Winnipeg was worked out. It’s not like it took Months.
    Montreal owed Darian $150K. Somehow Kavis Reed and Kyle Walters had words well before Darians release. Together those 2 GMs worked out a deal. Darian was told he was going to be released but he was going to get an offer and a signing bonus from Winnipeg. It wouldn’t be that of what he was making in Montreal but it would end up to being about half. To be a back up and Mentor.
    I believe what Darian was told by Kyle Walters and what Darian saw was truly coming wasn’t really the same. So he retired. Montreal and Winnipeg can work it out. In all honesty Montreal should pay the Bombers back. I mean Montreal received an Olinenan from the TigerCats that Hamilton had already paid $70K up front. So Montreal has an extra $70K

    • greenenvy? // May 11, 2018 at 4:11 pm //

      Oh please. The usual fake news about the inner workings of all things Rider. What have we here – the underwear prophesy? Once released you can’t “work” out a deal with another GM when he’s a free agent. Darian could go where he wanted. Hey Darian, we’re going to renege on the $150K but good news, the Bombers are going to give you $70K if you sign with them. Wow – where do I sign? Did Jones “work” out a secret deal with the Eskimos for Glenn before he was released? I recall the last conspiracy theory after Franklin was traded to the Argos & a “secret deal” had been worked out to get him to Jones in Saskatchewan.

  40. Edward Leslie // May 11, 2018 at 1:33 pm //

    Bomber in the stands & Lancaster/Reed:
    I agree with you guys. Durant isn’t very honorable sticking it to the Bombers like this. He’s had a long career in the CFL and made millions. He shouldn’t hold it against Winnipeg because Montreal didn’t give him his UNDESERVED bonus.
    With the CBA renegotiation coming soon, the CFL should make all bonuses performance based only. No more signing bonuses.

    • I feel like millions is a stretch.

      • greenenvy? // May 11, 2018 at 4:18 pm //

        Copy that. With the new CBA, all contracts should be guaranteed. That way players have cost certainty. If you want to release them early, then there should be a buyout. Just like a lot of leagues do. Players won’t need to ask for upfront bonuses as much, players stay longer, play for a little less to get a longer term if they know teams can’t just walk away. GM’s have to make better decisions because the buyout counts against the CAP. You sign a bad contract, there’s a cost. Players need to get more. Coaches are getting money thrown at them, all gtd & are having larger staffs every year. Otherwise this will become a league with nothing but 1 year contracts, upfront money, fans can’t identify with an ever changing roster of players. Not a recipe for long term success.

  41. Huff's Neighbor // May 11, 2018 at 1:42 pm //

    Wow are you ever stupid. How you manage the math to post is beyond me. Oh, you get your mom to help you with it.

  42. Let’s stop the hate towards Mr.Red. Yeah his comments are dumb but online bullying is not acceptable no matter the case. Grow up. Maybe the guy has issues. It’s gross reading the hate towards the guy. How old are we again? Bullying is a serious problem and you should all be kicked in the nuts. Take some time to reflect on who you are as a person and grow the hell up. BTW this Durant thing is legendary. A truly awesome way to stick it to his long time rivals.

  43. Jose Perez // May 11, 2018 at 1:55 pm //

    Haha bombers haha karma bit you in the ass. I won’t get into details but here’s a hint BC Lions.

  44. Does Winnipeg own his retirement rights? If so 70k to buy out if he ever wants to sign a 1 day to retire in Green. #karma

    • not much chance of that happening as long as Jones is there. CJ, basically, threw him under the bus, heaping the blame on him for the Riders’ dismal record. DD is a fierce, proud, competitor. He would never stoop to kiss Jones a$$ after their acrimonious divorce. Jones did not handle that with class, but he was new on the job, and probably regrets it now…or, at least, I hope he does, or else he is a bigger dick than I thought.

  45. just remember, Bleeding Green, that BB got Dressler for nothing, because he was cut before a 60K bonus. And that was FOR SERVICES ALREADY RENDERED. Taman needed to match Ottawa’s offer but was out of cap room, so he “borrowed” the money from the next year. That was the REAL TRAVESTY! Dress had already earned the money!

  46. Huff's Neighbor // May 11, 2018 at 2:16 pm //

    Bleed your heart somewhere else. Everything dumped on Red is well deserved. His BS has be going on for over a year, and it’s always the same hatred and stupid comments directed at the Riders, Jones, individual players, Regina and Sask. So, take some time to realize she brought it on herself and won’t stop anytime soon until they go away. We are old enough to know a classic hating troll when we read one.

    • bigboypants // May 11, 2018 at 4:29 pm //

      Red can handle Team Sage. Seems to take an army from Lime Slime to neutralize Monsieur Maroon.

  47. ridersville sk. // May 11, 2018 at 2:23 pm //

    Darian Durant – Once a bum, always bum.

    • DD’s singular focus, grit, and determination, carried the Riders to a come-from-behind semi victory of BC en route to the greatest Cup win in franchise history, AT HOME! so, lay off the bum stuff.

      • bigboypants // May 11, 2018 at 4:41 pm //

        The good ol’ days. 2013 all over again. The year in Regina when the Wheat Board Cowgirl ad, Potential Diefenbabies & a Playhouse destroyed by a tornado jostled for top 10 stories with the Rider Cup Win. Yawn.

  48. mr rogers // May 11, 2018 at 2:27 pm //

    Darian… can you say stealing? I knew you could.

  49. mr. Rogers….can you say JUSTICE?

  50. Darian Durant must be extremely desperate to resort to this low life act of theft. Is the league stepping in with opinion?

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 11, 2018 at 3:15 pm //

      Why should the league step in? This is far from the first time this sort of thing has happened.

  51. Go on take the money and run Woo hoo hahahaha

  52. Rider lover // May 11, 2018 at 3:08 pm //

    I love the Riders with everything I have, but even I have to call Durant a huge douche bag!!! Embarrassed to call you a former Rider!!!

  53. That $70 is the equivalent of a golden handshake for Durant and a golden shower for Wad Miller and Ky Walters.

  54. so, rider lover, and adidas, were you equally indignant when Price took 80K from the Riders and ran…or when Dressler was denied $60K bonus/back-pay, and was cut?

  55. Mr hemoRED // May 11, 2018 at 3:16 pm //

    Area fitty one with a solid haymaker that takes down Portage and Main with a $70 k loss

  56. I believe he wanted to play when he signed. I believe his situation changed. But…. Having said that, the optics of it are pretty damning. “I bleed green”. “I will always be a Rider (aka Bombers Hater)” Thanks for the $70K Bombers. Ha ha,now you dont have that money to put towards replacing me (Which helps the Green cause). And even though you asked for the courtesy of communication, I don’t care enough about you to even send a text or email.
    I can see why there are those who are wondering if the Riders slipped him an envelope to pull this off (wouldn’t put it past Jones).

  57. Mr hemoRED // May 11, 2018 at 3:30 pm //

    Does Dressler get to drive a big free truck from a bomber sponsor?

  58. let’s put this in a different context. Let’s say that BB offered DD a minimal $60K contract plus $15K for each game that he dresses…but, they put him through a vigorous training camp, then cut him the day before his first game. So, he gets squat. And, all the other teams have already got their back-ups in place, so he missed out on an offer from another team.
    Now tell me…who is the screwee, and who is the screwor? He doesn’t even get a game-day cheque.

  59. canadianfootballfan // May 11, 2018 at 3:50 pm //

    Players get screwed out of bonuses all the time. I think it’s time a team got screwed. Good for DD. Enjoy your retirement!

  60. Dear Darkazz
    yes and no9.

  61. bigplay // May 11, 2018 at 4:23 pm //

    I totally agree with some of the other posts if CFL Teams can cut players the day before roster Bonuses all the time then Players should be able to collect Bonuses then if a player decides to retire that’s fine.What goes around comes around! The league and player’s will be able to address this in the next CBA.

  62. Outwest // May 11, 2018 at 4:46 pm //

    Screw them,, how about Montreal paying him the $150,000 they promised him then dropped him and screwed him. Tit for tat,, good on yah DD take the money and enjoy.

  63. No player was ever cut when due a bonus unless the team thinks they will not earn that bonus though their play. That is not what we have here. This was a case of a player who clearly puts money over anything else. Whether he intended to play tis year or not, when he decided to retire, he should have informed the Bombers, and then returned the signing bonus. Then he can walk away from his playing career holding his head high. Instead, he posts his retirement on his website, with a picture of him smoking a cigar, proud of the way he exited. Classy… not.

  64. Peter N // May 11, 2018 at 6:00 pm //

    Teams and players both take advantage of the CBA as it suits them and neither is technically wrong from a legal standpoint.

    Questioning these decisions morally makes for a fun discussion but is irrelevant in terms of the rules set out in the CBA.

  65. canadianfootballfan // May 11, 2018 at 6:48 pm //

    It’s simple… the Bombers paid the much hated DD $70 grand for the privilege of calling him a Bomber for a little while, but that doesn’t include him suiting up.

  66. bigplay // May 11, 2018 at 7:14 pm //

    @Jeff// You are so wrong players negotiate roster bonuses all the time usually to be paid in the off season and Teams cut players the day before these payments all the time so if a player collects a bonus in February or March then decides in May to retire and keeps his Bonus that was already paid whats the problem, if the Bombers or some players that have been cut before they are paid bonuses should not put them in their contracts if it bothers them. And I think this will be discussed during the next round of CBA negotiations.

  67. Anthony Drpic // May 12, 2018 at 2:10 am //

    It’s only Fn 70 grand. Keep the dough.this league sometimes looks so bush. Also it was the GM who gave him the bread.Maybe he should reimburse the club .

  68. Stamps Day is canceled today

  69. This was just another column that was: run with the story, but walk to do research. DD had a very long interview, wherein he said that his agent HAD INFORMED the BB that he was considering retirement. They told him to think on it. He went south to his personal trainer for 3 weeks of training to prepare for the season, and he was in constant turmoil, not seeing his newly minted daughter, January, and family…and his wife said she could not move to Wpg.for the season. His heart just wasn’t in it, and if he couldn’t give his best to the team, he would rather quit…the consummate professional. Also, he explained that MTL screwed him over for $150K and the Riders screwed him out of a huge bonus…it is part of the business. Here is a guy who put family first…a guy who put in more film room hours than anyone else…not ever taking bye weeks off, just to be better…working late after practice, and he said his family deserves better now. Besides, the BB late hit, pretty much, aborted his career, and they got Dressler for nothing, after he was cut just hours before he would have received a $60K bonus. That scale is still tilted in the BBs favor. Screw them, for once.

  70. What happened to freedom of speech? Why are posts that were very cruel and ignorant and attacking, made forwards me and some of my posts, when I was just trying to defend my posts, allowed to be posts? Why are you targeted my posts and many others who agree with my posts? Why?

  71. Yawn…so let’s move on to better and more important things children…so how about those Jets? Won the 1st game against those Golden Knights…perhaps bring the SC back to Canada since the Habs last did it in 1993? Yessiree…looking good…

    • Actually, being a past and “want to get back” Hamiltonian, how about those Bulldogs? Possibly bring back a Memorial Cup since Bert (RIP) was coaching and McCourt was captaining the ship? Yessiree…looking good…

  72. David Albert Newman // May 15, 2018 at 4:50 pm //

    Be rid of signing bonuses and roster bonuses. That protects both players and teams from retirements and cuts. Instead, pay the base salary and performance bonuses.

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