Jeff Reinebold unlikely to stay with Ticats, slams ‘disloyalty’

  • It doesn’t sound like Jeff Reinebold will be staying with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in any capacity.

The former Hamilton Tiger-Cats defensive coordinator made his first public comments in the wake of his departure from the team earlier this week on Inside the Huddle, the NFL-themed podcast he co-hosts for SkySports.

In it, Reinebold discusses the circumstances surrounding his firing, the “disloyalty” from certain unnamed members of his staff and his future with the club. Head coach Kent Austin, who replaced Reinebold with linebackers’ coach Phillip Lolley after the team gave up an average of 39 points a game while starting 0-6, had offered Reinebold another spot within the staff, likely working with new assistant head coach June Jones.

It does not, however, sound like Reinebold is inclined to take it, particularly after speaking with veteran NFL assistant coach Rob Ryan, current Argonauts’ head coach Marc Trestman (the two were together in Montreal) and Jones, with whom Reinebold coached at SMU and Hawaii.

“In my conversations with guys that I trust and guys that I know in the business, I had mentioned that they said ‘we’d like you to stay.’ [Chuckles] I wish I could give you the exact message that I got from Rob Ryan but it was colourful, to say the least. He said ‘Jeff, no way.'”

“I talked to Marc Trestman, who was head coach of the Bears who got fired and then was in very much the same situation in Baltimore when he was the offensive coordinator. He said ‘no way.’

“Both of them advised me not to do it. They said it will be too raw. As much as you love the players and your loyalty to June… they said go surfing, go do your job at Sky and take some time to reassess where you are and what you want to do.

“That’s been the message from everybody. Jerry Glanville said the same thing. Even June said ‘I want you to stay but I couldn’t do it.’

“I think that’s the way it’s going to sort out.”

Reinebold also raised the issue of loyalty several times in his discussion with co-host Neil Reynolds and seems to indicate that he did not have final say in the hiring of his defensive assistants after being named to the post this winter.

“When you go through these things you find out a tremendous amount about loyalty. You wonder why guys don’t take jobs unless they have only their guys in place with them? For reasons like this. When it gets tough, and it always gets tough, if the guys are bound together you can weather it better than when guys are starting to feel like ‘Oh my God, the ship’s sinking and I better see how I can get on one of the lifeboats.’

Reynolds followed up by asking if everyone with the Ticats’ organization was on the same page.

“I’m not going to… this is the reality of the business: you have guys with agendas. It’s very, very rare – and I mean very rare – for everybody to be focussed on one goal. Because these jobs are so coveted and they pay so much, it’s just natural that people are going to try and climb over one another. It can be really, really subtle. It can be as little as a side conversation. When somebody starts a conversation about ‘well, I would be doing it this way’ or with the players ‘well, they’re not using you in the right way, I would use you this way,…’ all of that stuff is divisive and not productive for the team.

“Disloyalty comes in a lot of fashions. It can be not doing something the way it needs to get done, continuously. That’s the same thing as saying ‘I’m not going to do it your way.’ There’s also the more blatant form of disloyalty which is guys cutting side room deals.

“If you win enough, you can mask that. But when you’re not winning then somebody has to pay the price.”

Reinebold said he was surprised by the decision, which came after the Ticats lost 33-28 in Edmonton last Friday, a furious four-quarter rally falling just short.

“Not really. You’re so busy working that you tend to be oblivious to certain situations. After the fact, you go back and dig through the rubble and you see those little side conversations that are going on, the subtle messages that you probably, if you weren’t working so hard, would have picked up… As a matter of fact, I was kind of shocked because we had played some of our best defence the night before. We had made three stops in the fourth quarter to give our offence the ball back with chances to win, we just couldn’t get it done.

“The game ended with us throwing the ball into the end zone: if the guy catches it, we win the game, he drops it and we don’t win the game against an undefeated team. It’s just the way it goes.

Reinebold also explained the details of his firing and said there was no previous indication that his job was in jeopardy.

“Every situation is unique but the thing that took me by surprise was that there were no conversations previous, there was no the head coach calls you in and asks ‘what are you doing on third down?’, or ‘I don’t like what you’re doing here, you’re blitzing too much, you’re not blitzing enough.’ There was none of that. It was just a blind-sided – I got a text at 5:30 in the morning to meet the head coach at 9, I walked in and he told me what he was doing and that was the end of it.

“The first phone call you make is obviously to your agent because you want to make sure that you’re protected financially. What’s interesting is that a lot of contracts – and I have a very good agent – are written with a re-assignment clause in it so that they can reassign you anywhere within the organization. In my contract, there was no such re-assignment clause and so they are responsible for paying it through the duration of my contract.

Reinebold did have positive things to say about his overall experience in Hamilton.

“It’s been a wonderful five years, it’s been a great ride, it’s been a lot of fun. The owner here is a fabulous owner. Scott Mitchell, our president, is a football guy. All of that stuff has made it an amazing place. The fans are absolutely incredible.

Listen to the full interview here.

Drew Edwards

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Drew Edwards is into his eighth season covering the CFL and the Ticats for the Hamilton Spectator. He is the founder and editor of 3DownNation.
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39 Comments on Jeff Reinebold unlikely to stay with Ticats, slams ‘disloyalty’

  1. Mr.Ausrin will soon get his. With all of the talk about him and Zack, there must be some truth. Pretty funny that he is not as smug doing interviews with the media, now being o-6.

  2. Conan the Librarian // August 10, 2017 at 9:48 am //

    It’s a mistake to put too much credence in the version of events of an employee who has just been fired. Really Jeff? It was a surprise that you got let go? Your defence was the worst in the 150 year history of Hamilton football & you were surprised? PS: the photo accompanying this story was the best choice for it, lol.

  3. Jeff, who do you think fired you ? Mitchell or Austin, June will was brought in to take the heat The Head Coach. Cheers!

  4. Like I said in an earlier post Austin is losing more friends than he has gained being in the position he is. Rienebold is not the best dc and for everyone saying he should have gone back to special teams o have 2 things to say
    1 the current coach has done nothing wrong to lose his job
    2 this years stats are better than previous years with rienebold .
    The issue you have now is when someone like rienebold who is respected by players and coaches comes out and sais the these things and I’m sure they are directed towards Austin Mitchell or tillman players and possibly coaches steer clear of the franchise. Example that comes to mind milanovich and barker In Toronto . Remember guys turning down offers in the off season the reason they are in the position they are now is the fact that those 2 were fired and trestman and popp were brought in. Rienebold coming out with this stuff doesn’t help the situation in hamilton just more drama which is the last thing this team needs !

  5. Imo of course

  6. Sea of Dead // August 10, 2017 at 10:12 am //

    Sour grapes pal. The D has been absolutely awful. You stunk the joint out as DC for the Als and obviously learned nothing from your previous mistakes in the Cat DC role, so you had to go.

    Although it is concerning that Austin, who supposedly walks on water and who micro manages absolutely everything, did not meet with you on a regular basis to resolve some of repetitive issues that affected the D’s overall performance. Obviously, someone else needs to go too!

  7. Paul Bomber // August 10, 2017 at 10:16 am //

    Might as well give him a shot as DC in Winnipeg. Ritchie Hall has done a grand total of diddly-squat since getting run out of Saskabush. At least we know Jeff won’t be a down-grade from what we have here. (yes… tongue somewhat in cheek as Jeffy would never again be given a key to the coaches bathroom here again).

  8. OttawaHamiCatsFan // August 10, 2017 at 10:18 am //

    Wow things are not well in Ticat land. Well gosh gee willikers thats a shocker…NOT!!! I think most of us that have followed the team over the years could see that things were not well in Ticat land for a long while now. The reality is that this is a team that has been going downhill for 4 straight years now and the talent base has eroded over that time. Losing Condell and Steinhauer hurt the team more then they will readily admit. Anything short of a miracle second half that gets the team into the playoffs should lead to a major shake up in the organization imho.

    • Bingo. Lost 2 quality coaches and replaced them with lesser quality. Don’t know why OC Ptasek gets to stick around.

  9. Paul Garner // August 10, 2017 at 10:26 am //

    I applaud Austin for making the change on Defense. It was obvious to him that the team could not win with Jeff’s Defense. It had to be a tough decision for Austin. In the end – he is trying to win. It sounds like he may have lost a good and long time friend but it’s a tough business and it’s all about winning.

  10. Guy should have thanked everyone and moved on. Embarrassing watching no pass rush and dbs off 30 yards every play for 6 games. The loss in Hamilton against Edmonton had to be the most pathetic display of coaching I have ever seen. Edmonton scored on that final drive like we had no one on the field.

  11. Well Jeff something had to give and when you run the worst defence in league this really came as no shock to anyone but you. Kent’s job is not to make friends, as head coach he has to make some tough calls affecting peoples livelyhood, but Jeff was nice enough to point out that he will get paid anyways. Nuff said.

  12. The Iceman // August 10, 2017 at 11:37 am //

    Well cutting the teams best DB should help. Will Hill gone.
    Wonder who will pick him up. And we won’t wait long.

    • There is more behind that. The guy is good but doesn’t mean he is a good team mate. Could have lockroom issues. Will wait and see what gets said here.

    • Eddy Rayner // August 10, 2017 at 12:16 pm //

      Dude … where are you getting your info? Not saying it is wrong (heard he was a challenge in the dressing room)… just don’t see it here, cfl.ca or tsn.ca

  13. As my husband has always told me, when you’re a coach, you are hired to be fired. I think he’s right. I think all of our Ti-Ct coaches were a little worried where the axe might fall. This may not be the end, we will have to see how the remainder of the season plays out. That’s not to say that our players don’t have a part to play in all of this as well. Time will tell who else might go, players or coaches.

  14. Locality? Come on Reinhold, “nice guys finish last”. It was an obvious mistake (in hindsight) that you were chosen within the organization, to become DC from ST where you did have success. This decision is on Austin, as VP of Football Operations and Mitchell. Argos found Chamberlain, what about Rich Stubler? Some DC’s who had CFL experience and past success. Jeff tried as a DC in Montreal & Winnipeg, and failed miserably. Seems Austin has his “fingers in the pie” in every faucet and coaching decision. Yes Ti-Cat’s defensive record is the worst in ALL categories defensively. What did Reinhold expect? It’s a game of winning, and somebody had to go, how does “scapegoat” sound Jeff? Everybody BUT Austin, Austin has 2 years left, and he ain’t going no where soon. Boils down to who is evaluating the talent, and not bringing in or finding adequate replacements for injuries. Every other team seems to? Every faithful fan is hoping for a miraculous turn around, but at this juncture, that’s what it would be a miracle to recoup this disastrous start for 2017. Oskee Wee Wee, the good old days.

  15. LOL all this chirping and people missing Jeff’s point. Blame what you will on his coaching defense and what the stats are showing. This man has been the best special teams coach this team has ever had for 4 years and seemed to have gotten thrown under the bus into this position when another coach left. Where’s all the blame when offence doesn’t produce anything at all in a 60 to nothing loss??? 60 to 0 means offense doesn’t produce anything….thats not defense there people. Zach isn’t connecting and receivers can’t connect with him. Offense is horrible as well and now we have an assistant to take the heat off head coach when they continue to fail connecting. I support Jeff 100% in what he’s produced for this team and community and I’m sure most the hammer feels the same. LOYALTY

    • Sea of Dead // August 10, 2017 at 2:32 pm //

      Jeff was not necessarily the best special teams coach we ever had … Banks play in 2015 made him look really good. In 2016, Banks play deteriorated as did the play of his special teams and you seem to forget all those blocked kicks against the Cats last season (I believe it was 5 or 6 games in a row) with no hint of corrective action.

      I’ll admit that Jeff was a good team man but he was NOT a good coach and certainly NOT a football genius as a few fans have suggested on this blog over time.

  16. Dundas dude // August 10, 2017 at 12:31 pm //

    Best wishes to him. Changes HAD to be made, and those changes likely aren’t finished. Go Cats! Believe.

  17. frank emil sabados // August 10, 2017 at 12:48 pm //

    The Offense sucks on the Cats but nobody was fired on the Offense and more changes are going to happen with Cats ,this is far from done.

  18. Hey Steve check the stats and it’s obvious the st is better this year than the last 4 the only reason everyone thought st was so good in the previous 4 years is because Brandon banks used to run to the opposite end zone do you recall the blocked punts and missed assignments. I bad play this year is the finch return. other than that the play of st has improved under the new st coach

  19. But I do agree with you in regards to the offence but Kent isn’t gonna fire himself hopefully June Jones talks some sense into him

  20. The Ticats have been overrated for a couple of years now. Looks like the Head Coach is trying to cover his ass.

  21. Reinebold should not be “burning bridges” and should have kept his mouth shut. Yes, he has his thing with Skye Sports but good luck to him regaining any employment in the CFL when his comments cause “further unnecessary tension”.

  22. Love what you bring to the table Jeff.
    Let Hawaii do its thing.

  23. Worst offence in the league
    worst defence in the league
    equals worst head coach in the league.
    As I said before Austin won’t fire himself. He will be gone before the season is over if he doesn’t turn it around.
    Can’t Tillman find some good southern talent? He used to be great at that.

  24. Hey Reinbold – Austins “loyalty” to you is the only reason you ended up as the DC. Your resume as a DC sucked… go figure… your defense broke records 🙁 and your shocked??????

  25. Very surprised that Reinbold is not acting more professionally. Seriously … he was surprised? He did not see if coming … seriously? He took a leadership position … that involves taking the blame. Who is he blaming for the situation? The players? The other coaches? What!?

    They offered him a chance to stay … I guess that I don’t blame him for preferring a fresh start … but why go public and say … my agent is smart and they have to pay me anyways … so I am going surfing.

    Mother was right … sometimes saying less is saying more.

  26. Wonder if Trestman appreciates having a private conversation with Reinbold dragged into the mix?

  27. Ron Bates // August 10, 2017 at 6:39 pm //

    where did this guy come from and who has recommended him from BC ———to Winnipeg——–to———Montreal———-gosh and the TC’s/ step out and show yourself/ is this stuff based on good friends or is someone pulling a lot of nonsense on us/ look at this personality photo/

  28. All this talk is all just window dressing. This club has been on a downward spiral since the days of Ron Lancaster and Danny MacManus. Look at Edmonton, they have one of the highest man games lost to injury in the league and still they are undefeated. Why? One word; DEPTH. How is it that Edmonton has such tremendous depth and the ‘Cats have next to nothing? This speaks volumes towards both the atmosphere in the locker room and the people in the front office. How is it that guys like Mike Rielly and Jonathon Jennings find their way into CFL rosters and we practically have a revolving door at quarterback and pretty much every other postition on the field. Im beginning to think we’re like the Leafs in the early 80s when they had a scouting budget of exactly $1.89. If you look on the roster of every other club in the CFL, there are former ‘Cats everywhere. In the game on TSN right now there is Ellingson and Figeuroa playing, to name a couple,and there are more for sure. Can someone tell me why we get some good players here, but they always bolt as soon as their contracts are up, or we trade them for also rans? Sad to see Reinebold leave in such a manner. He’s a good guy and a decent football mind.

    • Paul Garner // August 10, 2017 at 9:10 pm //

      In 2012 we had an outstanding team and finished 6-12. We led the league in offence, Henry Burris was great, Chris Williams was returning punts and kickoff and we should have won. We finished last. The reason was that we had Casey Creehan as our Defensive Coordiantor. He was terrible. The defence was the worst in the CFL and not only that it was disorganized. I still remember the game vs Montreal where the Als were on about our 10 yard line and our DB’s are waving to the bench because they didn’t know what to do. When the play was executed the Montreal player just walked in. And this was aboutt 13 games into the season. George Cortez was the coach. ‘OL George never puled the trigger on Casey and the end result is now history. So give Kent Austin some credit for recognizing his error in hiring Reinhold and making the change before its too late. Oh yeah Casey was fired at the end of the year and went no to destroy Winnipeg and Toronto. Jim Barker fired him a few hours after the last game of the season in Toronto.

  29. 0-7 is coming Then 0-8 Then Heads may Roll

  30. Never a easy thing when a COACH in any position is cut lose. Many factors involved but the W and L columns tell the FINAL STORY along with the overall defensive result #s. Give up too many points you lose. Don’t score enough points you lose. After that the HC is accountable simple as that.

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