The Riders projected depth chart (and what it means)

The Saskatchewan Roughriders have made their final cuts so here’s a look at a projected depth chart as well as thoughts on the roster construction.

1. The Riders are razor thin at Canadian. They have seven solid starters but they’ve only got one reserve Canadian offensive lineman, no back up behind Jerome Messam (they could use Spencer Moore to get through a game) and not much by the way of flexibility. Other than that, everything is fine.

2. If they did have to make a ratio change, they could move Bladek into the right guard spot where they are projected to start American Jarvis Harrison or start two Canadian defensive tackles by pairing Eddie Steele with Zach Evans. Steele may come in handy as an emergency offensive lineman as well.

3. After releasing Rob Bagg, the Riders Canadian receivers have a combined 39 career CFL receptions. Josh Stanford might be good but he’s untested. If they have to start two Canadian receivers, it’s an even bigger gamble.

4. This line up features Canadian Sam Hurl starting a linebacker – cue Bomber fans asking how the Canadian linebacker thing is going – but it’s possible Cam Judge starts there.

5. The secondary doesn’t look too bad, though Nick Marshall is a rookie starting at the boundary corner – assuming they don’t start Duron Carter at that spot. Field corner Jovon Johnson is 34 years old…but continues to play well.

6. The defensive line could be scary good.

7. So could the receiving corps with Carter, Namaan Roosevelt and Caleb Holley – assuming the offensive line can protect the quarterback long enough to get them the ball.

8. Which quarterback? Good question. We’ve listed Collaros as the starter but it could very well be Bridge. David Watford has really impressed the coaching staff.

9. Brett Lauther is the kicker after an outstanding pre-season. He’s a good kid – I covered him in Hamilton – and I hope he does well. Having old man Bartel around to keep things light should help.

Drew Edwards

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Drew Edwards is into his eighth season covering the CFL and the Ticats for the Hamilton Spectator. He is the founder and editor of 3DownNation.
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108 Comments on The Riders projected depth chart (and what it means)

  1. So apparently all of this Rider “news” but not a peep about the Hamilton cuts 4 hours past.

    • Jack in Hamilton // June 10, 2018 at 1:55 pm //

      This site knows who butters their bread.

    • Hamilton has no doubt met the deadline with the league and submitted their roster and cuts but if they haven’t been able to contact all of the players yet, especially those who haven’t made the team, then they aren’t going to make the list of cuts public. Player shouldn’t have to learn their fate via social media.

      • Players would have been told to be close to their phones. If player chooses to stick their head in the sand and not answer the phone then they get the news on social media.

  2. Jack in Hamilton // June 10, 2018 at 1:54 pm //

    Looks like a Grey Cup favourite to me. Solid

    • TruBlu58 // June 11, 2018 at 3:42 pm //

      Zero Canadian depth and 5 green pylons on the O-Line. Sad when the season hasn’t started and there is already talk of an emergency backfill for the O-Line with a DL. West Division basement – book it!

  3. Some hits and misses here. I don’t think Maggitt starts at DT. I think we’ll see a rotation of Steele and Henry there, and maybe eventually some Mufata. Don’t have a backup for Messam but don’t need one since he would be our 8th Canadian starter. I expect him to rotate with Mason and Stacy while Thigpen is out.

    The only area where we are thin is at Canadian on the OL, and I think the cuts we saw this weekend suggest that we’re going to be bringing someone in, and Dyakowski is the most likely bet. He was here last year and could integrate quickly.

    • Agree RFD. I want to see more of Mason for sure. Kid had a wide open pass QB missed him on, and broke his only run for 14 yards.

  4. Jack in Hamilton // June 10, 2018 at 2:04 pm //


    Point 3 is Fake news. Devon Bailey has way more receptions that what you stated. Cmon

  5. MR. Green // June 10, 2018 at 2:10 pm //

    Tree Mason dis a good job blocking in his limited snaps. I like his work ethic. Glad Lambert and Kyran Mopre made it. Spencer Moore is always solid back there as well. Like Edwards said, for now Eddie Steele is the 4th Canadian O lineman who did well 3 years ago. Nick Marshall has played well since day 1. Harrison obviously out performing Bond.
    Some unfortunate injuries, however not to see some young Canadians earn jobs.
    Well I suppose tomorrow we find out who for sure is the starting QB for week 1. Odds are Collaros, but you never know 100% with Jones.
    Let it begin.

  6. Rick Cowan // June 10, 2018 at 2:11 pm //

    How come Hamilton hasn’t Released there cuts oh ya that is because they have the savoir of the Cfl Johnny football it seems like they can do what ever they want

  7. Rider fan // June 10, 2018 at 2:11 pm //

    The riders a weak at o line and line backer. I don’t know where they will get them this time of year.

    • Not weak at LB at all, and on the OL we need to get healthy but in the meantime Peter D seems to be still out there looking for a job.

  8. Sir Gallahan of the Prairies // June 10, 2018 at 2:21 pm //

    It’s great that 3Down wants to lay out a teams depth chart after cut down. However I don’t see why the could not present a West team and an East team at the same time.
    I truly hope this article is done 8 more times. It really gives the fan a good look. No an exact look at how deep a team is at certain positions and how limited they are at other positions.
    I guess 3Down must feel that starting with the Riders gives them an idea of just how popular this kind of article will be.
    Personally I think it’s one of the best articles for each team. I can’t wait to see several teams. Montreal, Hamilton, EE, BC would be my tops. But I do want to see them all.

  9. Edmontonasacitysucks. // June 10, 2018 at 2:23 pm //

    Maggitt is doubtful as a starter.
    Hurl is doubtful as MLB. Riders stated weeks ago that Eguavon is penciled in at this position.

    • It is either Judge at WIL and Equavoen at MLB or Hurl at MLB and Equavoen at WIL – probably see both configurations during a game.
      Maggitt is interesting because he listed on roster but also listed in transactions to practice roster so I am not which is correct.

    • MR. Green // June 10, 2018 at 2:47 pm //

      Actually Jones said over a week ago, Hurl can only play MLB, not athletic enough to cover, while Judge can play, can’t remember , SAM or Will. If Hurl comes in Eguaven will move over, so I see Judge ahead of him. Either way Moncrief is a beast out there. DPOY I forsee.

  10. The decision to not play Collaros and Bridge and starters in both pre-season games is unF..king believable given how Collaros hasn’t had a win that he can remember and any new QB fight for starter comes with pressure on QBs that often do as much harm in the short term as in the long.

    Look at how Masoli sucked in his first game and he sat the second – pretty much guaranteeing his tenure as starter and continuation at QB – will be over when Manziel (who played both games) is ready.

    Chris Jones needs to learn to get his first team some time in the first game to get ready for the pre-season and if it all works well – then sit them all in the second game.

    • May have been a different situation if our first game was at home. Also really had to evaluate our other QB’s of which 2 are gone

    • Easy mistake to make with Collaros as he has been looking crisp at TC. However, Jones is a slow starter and you can typically count on the first 4 or 5 games being exhibition quality until he finally finds 1st gear.

  11. Sir Gallahan of the Prairies // June 10, 2018 at 2:34 pm //

    I missed it as I didn’t read the chart. I only read the article before posting. Then reading the chart I see Maggitt as the starter at DT. Curt Maggitt has been put on the Practise Roster. So the chances of him starting is pretty thin unless SK reactivates him.

    • The Riders depth chart for the last exhibition game had Radford behind Moncrief at SAM and Striker at DE behind Hughes. Now both Striker and Geter were college LB so they could be possible at both positions. Striker played both positions in camp. If Maggitt is on practice roster that would mean starting 2 Canadian DT or going with 3 DE (certain in passing situations) or 3 DL and 4 LB.
      Peters and Holmes are both juniors that will probably practice with the Riders until the junior season starts. Peters was being converted from LB to safety during training camp. Nyhus was their QB intern. Maybe keeping him around until add a QB to practice roster.
      Canadian depth is a concern.

      • MR. Green // June 10, 2018 at 3:09 pm //

        I heard reports Makana Henry had a great camp. With Evans and Steele that’s not bad for Canadians at DT. As well Geter looked good, like you said, will be interesting in rotations. I was a little bit surprised on Gary Wilkins, however the Canadians did well an Geter played strong. Nice to see the Striker make the team coming out of semi retirement. Tackles well, he’s smart and versatile. Those Junior league players can be underrated.

  12. Rider #20 // June 10, 2018 at 3:10 pm //

    Scary and weak. 5th place in the West. No doubt about it!

  13. Edmontonasacitysucks. // June 10, 2018 at 3:18 pm //

    I’m really unsure why this site states Sask. is thin at CDN LB. There are 4 CDN LB on roster and one (Bartlett) on injured list

    • There are 2 LB on injured list. Francis is still recovering from off season surgery. Plus there are 2 more on the practice roster – Chevier and Gagne. We have numbers but can they play?

  14. Sun always shines at McMahon // June 10, 2018 at 3:29 pm //

    Hurl is a compromise at LB.
    Import players outside of QB are as good as any team.
    If Messam can’t play or a few injuries occur at key positions, This team is in trouble like never before.
    Collaros is already showing he will have injury problem as usual.

    • Puck Hog // June 10, 2018 at 4:21 pm //

      Time for me to encourage you to shut up, Red, before you make a fool of yourself….wait, what did I say…?

    • CFLFIRST // June 10, 2018 at 4:21 pm //

      Red good luck to your stamps this year, and Collaros getting hurt might be the best thing for the riders!

    • The Grog // June 10, 2018 at 5:00 pm //

      Injuries to key players are bad for any team no matter how much depth they have. Let’s just bash the Riders OK!

  15. An additional comment would be that Radford can play receiver as well, and Spencer Moore also has great hands and could play SB. He was a receiver at McMaster.

    • Sun always shines at McMahon // June 10, 2018 at 4:41 pm //

      Right, and Edem, St John, Judge can all move into the receivers spot too. They have legs to run, arms to extend and hands to catch, right?

      • Rrider20 // June 10, 2018 at 4:53 pm //

        denzel radford is a converted reciever you moron.. played all of his college ball at reciever and got drafted as a reciever.. jones switched him to defence cuz he can tackle like a mad man.. get your facts straight you drunk clown.

        • I ignore him as a rule, but this was a good smack down. I laughed. And as an added touch, Radford played for the Dinos, in McMahon Stadium.

      • The Grog // June 10, 2018 at 5:04 pm //

        Are you serious! You must really be worried about your Stamps to make a comment like that!

  16. Edmontonasacitysucks. // June 10, 2018 at 4:13 pm //

    If Messam goes down, Awachie will be activated.
    Not sure why all the concern.
    Riders are thin at CDN OL and that is it. Yes, it is a concern.
    Please look at the roster for back-ups and next-ups before you post your foolish comments.

    • Awachie and Moore are both college TE converted to FB which in CFL appears basically to mean line up as TE. Neither has experience taking handoffs.

  17. Regina does not have “seven solid NI starters”.

    Devo Bailey is incapable of starting. It’s laughable that he’s being touted as a “starter”. Complete waste of space at the WE position.

    I like Sam Hurl, but I’m concerned about him as an every down starting MLB – – especially if Mak Henry is lining up in front of him as s pylon at DT.

  18. Regina does not have seven solid Nat starters – they have eight. You are making your assessments on how players played years ago. Bailey is as good as any Cdn. Mak Henry made great strides this offseason – as you have mentioned many times before I am sure, he is relatively new to football so his ceiling is unknown.
    Hurl? meh…..Hurl is Hurl.

    • Devo Bailey has played FOUR (4) seasons and has s grand total of 38 receptions for his career. Has never had more than 220 receiving yards in a season.

      I can assure you the guy is terrible, but if you want to delude yourself into believing Bailey is a “solid starter” on the verge of s 1000yd breakout season, go right ahead.

      I’ll be reminding you throughout the season how useless Bailey is.

      • Hey Hillbilly51. I generally don’t read your posts but I couldn’t help noticing that you’re completely lost in the back woods on this. The Riders don’t need Bailey to be a 1000 yard receiver. Bagg had less than 350 yards last year, and that’s not because he’ isn’t good. It’s because we have a great receiving corps and there’s only one ball. Bailey will cost us half as much as Bagg, and he’ll probably end up with just as many yards.

    • True Green // June 10, 2018 at 7:14 pm //

      I have to correct you friend, it’s Saskatchewan not Regina. Not trying to be an ass but the Riders are Saskatchewan’s team!

  19. It’s a total embarrassment to be lacking NI depth on the OL when you’re only starting TWO (2) Canadians up front.

    WTF would they do if they had to start three NIs on the OLine? Or four as some teams do?

    Once again Chris Jones is too dumb to realize how critical NIs are to success in the CFL.

    • True Green // June 10, 2018 at 7:53 pm //

      Yeah it must be because he’s dumb. Nothing to do with how his draft pics have turned out, Injuries etc. If you know as much as he does, or more according to your take on…well everything, why aren’t you HC of a team?

    • Heading into training camp I believe we had 9 guys competing for the Canadian jobs. How many do you think we should have had? 15? 20?

  20. The Grog // June 10, 2018 at 5:09 pm //

    What a great Rider fan you are. Every tear you run the team down about every move! Go be a Stamps fan instead! Maybe then I would respect your position!

  21. Rrider20 // June 10, 2018 at 5:09 pm //

    for anybody who thinks the Riders have a Canadian talent problem i think you might need to re-look at the roster.. entire team including injury list and practice roster = 29 internationals/non-Canadian players & 33 national/CANADIAN players… the only Canadian position that might need some help is online.. and even that’s a stretch.

    • And if Regina goes out and signs Jade Etienne, Andy Fantuz and Jordo Sisco tomorrow they’ll have 36 NIs.

      Would adding those three increase the NI talent?

      You’re confusing quantity with quality, my friend.

      • Rrider20 // June 10, 2018 at 5:26 pm //

        I’m sure there is more than enough QUALITY Canadian players to field the 7-14 players needed for starters and their back ups.. I’m also sure there’s even more than that.. you don’t comprise over half of your roster with National players if they aren’t capable of starting or backing up a position.

  22. You’re a hack Edwards.

  23. Not only do the Riders have to worry about their NIs getting hurt, they have to worry about them getting arrested too.

    What happens if Jordo Reaves or Mak Henry get busted again for narcotics possession?

    • What would happen if you had a thought process

    • Dude – you need to stick to football with your comments. Some of your comments are getting personal.

      • And leveling shots at players who’ve succeeded and are working within the community to ensure others don’t follow their path isn’t “personal” ?

        • Yup – my comments were directed at A51 – his comments about Henry and Reaves are out of line for the reasons you mentioned. Guys sign up to play football, not be subject to public scrutiny for everything they have done in their past that has nothing to do with the game.

          • Roger that Yoshi.

          • Why do you want to pretend a guy’s arrest record never happened and keep everything hush-hush, my friend?

            Keeping everything hush-hush is how players who are drug users or beat up women or engage in other violent crimes get away with it so often.

            If it’s public knowledge throughout the media then it’s fair game for discussion, my friend.

    • True Green // June 10, 2018 at 11:16 pm //

      You n ow your brother is on record for “getting caught up with drugs and th earring crowd” right, my friend?

  24. Sun always shines at McMahon // June 10, 2018 at 5:28 pm //

    People have to understand
    Have depth and having names to fill into the CFL’s depth chart template are not the same thing. Are those names ready or capable of playing a starting role for your team? I’m not sure Stanford, Bailey,Hurl, Judge are at this point.
    In fact Stanford might want to go back to working with his Dad in the family junk yard business.

    • Lancaster/Reed // June 10, 2018 at 5:58 pm //

      It was Sanford & Son , not Standford & Son. Good lord, even your jokes aren’t well thought out.

      • Sun always shines at McMahon // June 10, 2018 at 6:29 pm //

        Yeah I know, but it was still pretty funny and I knew it was just a matter of time before you’d line up to correct my stupidity.

  25. Can’t understand why people are so unwilling/unable to assess their favourite team objectively.

    Instead of pretending the Riders have “depth” at NI receiver, let’s just call it for what it is – – a bunch of unproven hacks that everyone desperately hopes will have a “breakout”.

    Instead of living in a dream world, why not focus on ways to improve Regina’s catastrophic NI situation?

    Start with the scrap heap – – Anthony Parker is light years better than any NI receiver the Riders have.

    Chris Jones needs to waddle down to the lobby of the Holiday Inn Express and get a contract offer faxed over to Parker ASAP.

    • Sun always shines at McMahon // June 10, 2018 at 6:02 pm //

      Cheers Area51
      That was a good read

    • MR. Green // June 10, 2018 at 6:31 pm //

      Over his career Parker has averaged 25 receptions a season. He will not take the Riders to another level. Bailey and Stanford had a decent camp and deserve thier opportunity as a day 1 starter. You gotta see how they do. Bailey is 26 and Stanford only 23. One would have to be cut. Parker is not worth that exchange anymore.
      I’ll educate you both since your lack of knowledge is highly evident. Canadian Receivers take 2-5 years to get to a high level. in 7 seasons Parker has eclipsed 500 yards once. He’s decent but was always overrated.

      • We’ve seen what Devo Bailey can do. The answer – – not much.

        A grand total of SEVEN (7) catches in his past two seasons.

        • MR. Green // June 10, 2018 at 7:19 pm //

          Ya, learning and behind Bagg. Like I said for Canadian receivers who are young take time. He rated high this camp. Had a good camp and knows the offence.
          Unless Parker wants near the league minimun, he will never be here with those numbers. 36 catches in 18 games last year. He is regressing. Hence, he was cut. If players don’t get the opportunity, you can miss out. If he was a O lineman, different story. I wish we drafted a different lineman, however Shepely was a risk, could pay off. Worry about your team, they traded for a guy expendable by 2 other teams.

          • I’ll stand by my assessment that Devo Bailey has ZERO chance at putting up 36 receptions this year.

            And I’ll be certain to remind you of it when he doesn’t.

      • Sun always shines at McMahon // June 10, 2018 at 7:09 pm //

        Have you ever seen me write about Parker being an elite receiver?? Of course he wasn’t, but he was serviceable, he was a effective cog in what he was needed to do. He proved he could play and not be a weakness.

        • MR. Green // June 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm //

          Wasn’t really talking to you Stamp fan. Your like the little guy in the back jumping up and down who needs attention.

    • Hey ArseTalker51. I think it’s time you assessed your analytical abilities objectively. I’ll give you little a tip to start you off. You don’t know half as much as you think you do.

  26. Scottsask // June 10, 2018 at 6:02 pm //

    One and only glaring problem, depth at o line. I’ve been saying this since training camp and it’s inexcusable. Other than that, the roster is solid.

    • Well, how many guys do you need for good depth? Just before camp I believe we had 9 guys, and I’m just talking Canadians. Then something happened to Meredith. Still haven’t heard what. JSJ, who by all accounts had been playing great in the pre-camp workouts, tweaked a hamstring, and then later came back too soon and is now on the 6 game. Zver out of the blue retired. Bladek got hurt. Adusei, who had looked great in camp, couldn’t handle a guy he hadn’t see before in an exhibition game, and has since been cut. And we had two raw developmental guys who were never going to make the roster this year. One has been cut, Houghton, and the other is on the PR, Breton. You can’t bring in an infinite number of guys. With our roster sizes and training camp sizes you have to just have to hope that multiple things don’t go wrong at one position, and that’s what happened to us on the OL. BUT, our overall Canadian depth is going to save our bacon, because we can afford to play more imports, and we still have time to try to find some other warm bodies who can play. And I think that the unexpected cuts this weekend were about freeing up cap space to do just that.

  27. Take this // June 10, 2018 at 8:35 pm //

    Someone above said “Bailey is as good as any Canadian”. Seriously, I think you must have forgotten that Sinopoli is Canadian and Lamar Durant is Canadian, just to mention a few Canadian receivers. Highly unlikely that Bailey will ever reach that kind of status.
    The Riders are obviously short on depth on the O line, in fact, the starters are not all proven. The defensive backfield is also short of depth. Please don’t tell me that Duron Carter is part of that depth. Yes, Jones has him playing at cornerback at times but he takes more yards in penalties there, usually 15 yard penalties, then he sometimes makes in yards on offence. In fact, if a rookie cornerback had taken Duron’s penalties in the last preseason game, that rookie’s name would probably be on the cut list. Duron is too volatile to play defence. There are a few defensive backs on the practice roster but no depth on the 46 man roster.
    Middle linebacker is also a soft spot.
    Basically all boils down to the O line though. If they play like the preseason games and the quarterbacks are under constant pressure, with Collaros and Bridge as ineffective, book a spot in the basement for the Riders.

    • I don’t know what league you have been watching but pretty much all Canadian Receivers suck including Sinopoli. Can’t say much about Lamar as he hasn’t played much but odds are he sucks.

      • Take this // June 10, 2018 at 10:08 pm //

        Go watch the NFL where you won’t have to watch Canadian receivers. Sinopoli has had thousand yard seasons. So that sucks, does it? Many American receivers don’t have any thousand yard seasons so I guess they all suck. I guess Andrew Harris sucks at running back too even though he threatened to post a thousand yards both running and receiving. Don’t write off Canadians just because they are Canadians. Lamar Durant has been getting more time and will be better, or already is, then some of his American counterparts. Brad Sinopoli is one of the better receivers in the league, no matter what nationality he is. You really have no respect for Canadian players, do you?

        • Excellent comments.

          Rider Fan proclaims Brad Sinopoli is a terrible receiver but Sinopoli has more 1,000yd seasons than Duron Carter has.

          More importantly, Sinopoli also has TWO (2) Grey Cup rings – – and Carter has ZERO.

          Sinopoli’s also has never disgraced his team and the league by being busted for trying to smuggle drugs through an airport.

        • Sinopoli never had more than 34 catches or 400 yds when he was in Calgary where there were are a lot of good import targets. Sino gets to Ottawa where he gets starts he never got in calgary because Ottawa needs a canadian passport with a pulse on the field. Sinopoli’s production in Ottawa says as much as about the other receivers as it does about him. Getzlaf had thousand yd seasons in Sk as well – I certainly would put him in the “suck” category as well.
          Face it my friends, Cdn O Linemen in the CFL are passable but at any other position they are on the field because of their passports ONLY – including Sinopoli.

  28. Huff's Neighbor // June 10, 2018 at 10:01 pm //

    It would appear no other teams made cuts if one looks at the first page. Obviously for what ever reason 3D wants to focus on Canada’s team. Would be nice to bash on some others, instead of constantly playing defense. A long season awaits.

  29. Former Rider fan // June 10, 2018 at 11:38 pm //

    So this is year three of the Chris Jones [email protected]
    How much longer can Jones continue to baffle Craig Reynolds?
    Will he finish the year?

    • Chris Jones continues to baffle Rider Fan so I’m not surprised he can keep fooling that clueless accountant.

      That’s the problem with putting a guy in charge of the organization who doesn’t have the slightest idea of how to run a football franchise.

      Lots of people trash Jim Hopson, but at least with him in charge there were no egotistical dictators like Chris Jones running the franchise into the ground with ridiculous decisions. Look at how he handled the wannabe alpha dog Corey Chamblin when the 2013 season was on the brink of catastrophe.

      And it was Hopson who stepped in during the 2012 draft and told the braintrust Ben Hernan was going to be the pick. Unfortunately, Craig Reynolds can’t overrule the disastrous draft choices that Jones continues to make.

      • Lol! Yeah, he only improved the team by 5 wins last year. He sure is running us into the ground! What a couple of clueless fools.

  30. When you’re only able to start TWO (2) Canadians on the OLine, there sure as hell isn’t much NI talent there.

    Last year Rider Fan ridiculed Winnipeg for having Sam Hurl at MLB – – now he’s suddenly he’s going to save the day in Regina?

    • Do you know what injuries are? A number of teams have started only 2 Canadian OLs in recent years due to injuries. When our injuries heal I expect that we’ll be back to 3 with two good backups. Hurl will not be a every down starter at MLB for us. He will be a situational player. Judge will play a lot, and I expect that we’ll see some 3-4 as well where Hurl should be a better fit.

      • Please list “the number” of CFL teams you’re referencing that have opened the season with only TWO (2) Canadian starters on the OLine.

  31. Former Rider fan // June 11, 2018 at 2:56 am //

    Craig Reynolds, the man that wrecked all the good Jim Hopson did. One sellout this year (Labor Day)
    Telethons to follow.

    • The good that Hopson did? You mean like bringing in the child molester, and drafting and signing all those Regina area players for the Old Boys? What a great guy!

  32. Take this // June 11, 2018 at 3:02 am //

    Do you believe that Jones will again improve the record by another five wins? Or another two wins? Time will tell. With the Canadian talent on this team and the O line and the linebackers and the lack of depth in the defensive back field and a quarterback trying to regain his confidence, I wouldn’t put too much money on them.

  33. Why don’t you bet against them then? Put your money where your mouth is. Since you’re asking, I predict that we’ll improve by two wins this year, and the cup appearance may be another year away. I think this is more like S-curve growth, slow start, rapid middle section, and then slows down when you get near the top. We are now a good team, but there are a couple of other very good teams in the west as well with very well established offences. I think we’ll find our #1 QB this year, but it’ll either be his first year with the team, or his first year as a full time starter, and I think our offence may not reach the level of the well seasoned Calgary and Edmonton offences this year. Of course lots of things can happen, and they usually do. If BLM or Reilly go down then those teams are out. Our running game could be a wild card as well. All things being equal I think the top three teams are going to be very close.

    • Take this // June 11, 2018 at 11:05 am //

      I probably will bet against them. You do realize that what you said about finding that quarterback eliminates absolutely nobody. Nobody. The only one in the whole league it would eliminate is Kevin Glen. Pretty broad meaningless statement. I also think the top three teams will be close but not sure the Riders will be in that group, not without some big help through injuries.

  34. Former Rider fan // June 11, 2018 at 8:33 am //

    RFD asked, “The good that Hopson did?”

    How about 4 grey cup games in seven years, sold out games and record merchandise sales!

    • Take this // June 11, 2018 at 11:10 am //

      Just that same attitude that no one from the past ever did anything good for the franchise. I agree that Hopson was good for the Riders.

    • Thank you Roy Shivers! We couldn’t build a championship team in the pre real cap era because when we developed a championship QB, for example, some team would offer him a pile of money and buy him away from us – see Burris and Calgary. But Shivers was the best at finding talent and he built a team that was going to be an immediate contender the minute the real cap came in in 2007, and in fact we were and we won in 2007, but just before that season, after all the work had been done, Hopson fired Shivers and tried to take the credit for himself. That’s Jim Hopson for you.

      But did he do anything to contribute to the team? Did he hire a good GM? No. Tillman had been so bad and incompetent in Ottawa that the coach went to the owner and asked him to take away Tillman’s GM responsibilities after just two years. Before that he was fired after only one year in Toronto, twice. Look it up. And in Sask. in three years of drafts he managed to pick only one player who became a starter – Shologan – and one more who became a good special teamer – Yannick Carter – and the rest were essentially busts. Those drafts told us a lot about why he was brought in, however. Out of his 13 total draft picks 5 were Regina area players, and all were busts. What this tells you is that the old boys were back in charge. Shivers wouldn’t take orders from the old boys, but with Hopson in charge the old boys were back in charge. Tillman was hired because he would do as he was told, and work for them and not the good of the team, so they were pulling strings and getting their boys drafted by the Riders! Taman put an end to that aspect of the meddling, I’m guessing because it was just waaaay too obvious, but he still served them. He was the one in charge for the contract scandals, for example, with Regina boys Getzlaf and Clark, and old boy favourites Chick and Dressler, all getting paid about 50% more than they were worth, and there might have been more. LOTS of other meddling was going on during the Hopson/Tillman/Taman ear as well and by the end what Shivers had build ad been torn down and trashed and become not too dissimilar to the mess he had taken over. And then the old boys decided they’d better hire a competent GM again to rebuild the mess, and in comes Chris Jones. And if the old boys get their way the cycle will repeat. They’re already tying to lay the groundwork for getting rid of Jones.

  35. Edmontonsucks. // June 11, 2018 at 8:51 am //

    No one is projecting Bailey for a breakout season.
    Stanford could be, could be, could be!!! a possible candidate, but doubt he will go over 600 yds. Bailey is his back up, can spell him, give Stanford a breather, etc. Probably 600yds combined between them.

    Potential CDN STARTERS –
    Stanford (WR), D. Clark (OL), B. Labatte (OL), Jerome Messam (RB)
    Mike Edem (S), Zack Evans (DT), Makana Henry (DT), Judge (LB).

    Yes, OL is thin but there is no shortage of CDN starters or back-ups or next-ups at other positions.

    • Have you read the laughable comments in this discussion? Some misinformed pom pom wavers have proclaimed Devo Bailey is “as good as any Canadian receiver” in the CFL.

      You can’t be serious with the suggestion of Mak Henry as a starter. The guy is incapable of taking meaningful reps on defence.

      It’s going to be a long painful year in Regina if the Riders are forced to start a guy like Mak Henry.

  36. riderontheisland // June 11, 2018 at 11:29 am //

    This is going to be an interesting year (trolls don’t waste your time because I won’t reply and it’s mainly 2 I’m talking about that everyone can guess). We are going to rewind the clocks and see multiple players on both sides of the ball. Carter may do a little, but with the performance of Marshall I don’t think he will be called upon. I do see Steele, Evans, and maybe Henry playing Oline. For the last couple of weeks Jones has talked about it going on in practice and now I see there will be a need. I expect we will pickup another OL or 2 to help us through injuries also but those Dlinemen must have showed well enough to have Jones feel confident enough to make cuts.

    • Mak Henry at LT and Ed Steele RT – – bahahahaha.

      That would be absolutely comical. Please, PLEASE, make it happen Chris Jones!

      • riderontheisland // June 11, 2018 at 12:23 pm //

        I need a spray called “Troll Be Gone” and guess who it would be for? Off with you now and let the adults talk, maybe go play in the traffic.

  37. coldingalgary // June 12, 2018 at 12:39 am //

    A r e a 51.
    did your parents have any children that lived

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