Injuries take their toll on Eskimos’ bottom line

The Edmonton Eskimos announced a 2017 profit of $430,000 on Tuesday, down almost a million dollars from the previous year and a drop of more than $3 million since 2014.

Operating revenue was $24.7 million, an increase of over five per cent from 2016.

Eskimos president and chief executive officer Len Rhodes said an expensive financial variable in 2017 was the six-game injured list, which cost the team $1.1 million in 2017 compared to $410,000 in 2016.

“Quite frankly near the end of the year we were hoping we’d just stay in the black,” Rhodes said. We did that.

“Brock deserves a medal in terms of managing it (and) not looking for excuses. You can’t control that part. Unfortunately, there were a lot of injuries. And he came in under the salary cap.

“I think most importantly is we stayed competitive. It’s one thing to stay within the cap. It’s another to make sure that our fans see a product that makes them proud.”

Gate receipt revenues increased nine per cent to $806,259, while Rhodes also reported that sponsorship revenues increased 8.9 per cent to a club-record level.

Merchandise sales dipped 12.9 per cent, which was expected as 2016 sales exceeded projections due to the Eskimos’ 2015 Grey Cup win.

Total operating expenses increased $2.7 million to $24.1 million.

Rhodes said in his report season-ticket sales increased 2.6 per cent over last year but single-game revenues were up a whopping 26 per cent.

Edmonton will host the 2018 Grey Cup, which Rhodes expects will result in more than $80 million in economic benefit for the city.

– CP



143 Comments on Injuries take their toll on Eskimos’ bottom line

  1. Paul Bomber // May 9, 2018 at 3:32 pm //

    Before anyone takes a shot at Edm, just remember what goes around, comes around.
    OK, you may now take your Edm shots.

    • We are all in the same league here so what is good for one team is good for the league. We should be hoping for all clubs to do well as it affects the league. The sooner all teams get their house in order the sooner we can increase the cap and get more money into players hands. As it is now the SMS cap is driven by the lowest performing clubs….cough BC Toronto Montreal cough cough.

  2. Area51 // May 9, 2018 at 3:41 pm //

    Gate receipts of $800k?

    Someone needs to check their facts.

    • SaskTim // May 9, 2018 at 5:07 pm //

      At 10 games, that works out to about $80k per game. Even at 25k seats sold per game which is low, that is a price of $3.20/seat. Hmm

    • missing a zero obviously on income of 24 million….

    • Black and Gold // May 10, 2018 at 8:43 am //

      Read it again, they increase by 800K

      • SaskTim // May 10, 2018 at 10:39 am //

        “Gate receipt revenues increased nine per cent to $806,259.”
        Typo I guess, as it shouldn’t say “to” if that is the case.
        “increased nine per cent or $806,259”. Makes more sense.

    • I’m interpreting that as they cleared $800K from gate revenue this year.

  3. Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 3:52 pm //

    Great job Eskimos. You are looking strong as always.
    Why are the riders being so hush hush on their numbers? What are they hiding?

    • Peter N // May 9, 2018 at 3:59 pm //

      Well, organizations, at least all the ones I have worked for, release financials at their Annual General Meeting (AGM).

      Rider’s AGM is June 20th. Annual Report will be available on Riderville Website for general public at that time.

    • The numbers come out at this time of year for the public clubs. The Bombers release theirs last week, Esks this week, I’m sure the Riders numbers are out in the next couple of weeks.
      We will never know just how bad the losses are for the Argos, Als, Lions and probably the Ticats and RBs too

    • It would probably be best for the league if the Riders kept their numbers hush as CFLPA will be demanding a big jump in the SMS cap once they are out. Seriously though, the Riders have a March 31 FYE which is different than clubs like Wpg and Edm with Dec 31 FYEs.

    • Are you that dumb or are you acting like the the regular POS as per usual?

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 5:49 pm //

      Why don’t the stamps release their financials? Can’t find any recent years $ numbers. Obviously hiding huge financial losses. Year after year after year. How much longer will the flames want to prop up the stamps financially?

      • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 6:37 pm //

        Because the Stamps are a private company. What they make is no ones concern. They have some of the highest levels of sponsorship. Don’t believe me? Look how many logos on game day.
        The Stampeders do just fine. Just fine indeed.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 7:43 pm //

          Those logo are like tickets for the argos, free or dirt cheap to make it look good on tv. Stampeders lose money year in, year out. Crowds are dwindling every year, because calgarians are getting tired of the CHOKERS. New blood will be needed at the top to change the choking habit they have. Until then, more financial woes for the already poor stamps.

          • White Horse // May 9, 2018 at 8:19 pm //

            Lancaster Reed… are on the board of CSECORP? THANKS FOR INFO THAT YOU KNOW ZERO ABOUT. It is good to get a past prospectus of revenue from a LOSER rider fan. Keep up the good work.
            Do you have any more goodies to dish up to us fans who know nothing? One man in this ownership group is worth 10 billion!!!

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 8:46 pm //

            White horse you sad pathetic LOSER. Just because the owners are worth billions, doesnt mean they will support a part of their organization that is losing money. Braley got tired of financially supporting the argos and now is done with supporting the lions. Smart business people will not keep losing money just because a handful of fans beg them to stay.

          • We don’t know if the Stamps lose or break even. Their operating costs are roughly the same as most teams but they don’t pay any money towards a new stadium or improvements. Ticket prices are the same as other teams and revenue from advertising probably the same as other teams in the west.
            TV revenue the same.
            The Stamps profit probably similar to the Esks.

      • How can you say this?? The Stamps average over 30,000 people a game. The stands are a sea of red which means merchandising is going well. They make the playoffs and host playoff games where there is a nice windfall every year. They have an old open air stadium which costs a fraction of what BC Place costs to run. BC, Hamilton, Ottawa, TO and Montreal would give their eye teeth for great attendance and revenues that they have. SO DUM BRO!

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 8:54 pm //

          Actually Byron, stamps average was 27,400 last season. Their lowest avg attendance since 1995. A dump of a stadium with poor amenities, combined with fans tired of them breaking their hearts in the biggest game, and the crowds will continue to decline.

          • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 9:41 pm //

            Thanks for the facts Lancaster Reed. Let examine this.
            We have 27,000 you have 32000. You have 5000 more per game. Considering we had a playoff game of 32,000 and you had none, that means the riders only had roughly 13,000 more people come through the the gates. Taking an average of ticket price of say $100.00 (which is high) that is 1,300.000 million more dollars.
            What do you guess the riders profit was last year? If it’s close to Winnipeg’s then Calgary would still be making a pretty healthy profit. Wouldn’t they.
            Sorry to bring facts and numbers into your thinking son.

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 11:21 pm //

            Wow red, you are just so pathetic. Weirdly estatic that the riders made at least a $million more than the stamps on the season. Rider attendance avg was over 32,700 or almost 5400 more per game than the chokers. Stamps home playoff game was 30,000 , not 32,000. You know these can be easily looked up, right? So anyway, with 10 home games (inc preseason) thats 54000 more tickets sold. Thats 2 extra stamp home games, by the way. Minus your 30000 playoff game, thats 24,000 more tickets sold. At $100 per. Thats $2.4 million. Riders make a lot more than stamps on merchandise too. If the riders made less than the bombers, stamps were in the whole. Especially after factoring in all the free and cheap tickets the stamps have to offer to try to get butts in the seats. Stamps are almost as pathetic as its #1 fan.

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 1:42 am //

            It’s good that you agree that it’s a “fact” McMahon is a dump with poor amenities. So maybe you aren’t a complete psycho. Nah. You still are a complete psycho.

          • Hey sliders fan the ONLY reason you had such high attendance in past 2 years is because everyone wanted a season ticket to the new so called stadium so hence the past two years had high season ticket sales as it wasn’t because of your team playing well trust me,even with the games announcing high attendance numbers the actual fans in the seats was 5000-10000 less than announced,only because your team sucked .Look at all of the season tickets available this year as the fans are falling off the wagon losing faith in Jones and his 4 th and 5 th place finishes,now you have a new stadium that can’t be filled and the poor tax payers are on the hook for it and I am one of those tax payers,another losing year for the sliders BOOK IT !

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm //

            5000-10000 less? Are you on drugs? What a absolute moron you are. On a site that has red posting 30 times a day, that might be the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Wow. At most there would 200-300 per game that paid but can’t make it and didn’t give their tickets to someone. To the clinically brain dead, the stands may look like a lot are missing, but they are on the concourse socializing. There are people in my section that are gone from their seats for half the game. The south concourse area is absolutely packed with fans the entire game. Give your pea brain a shake and quit embarrassing yourself and whatever team you cheer for. What team is that? All you do is post slider comments and clap yourself on the back in a mistaken belief that you are witty.

        • Great attendance is not the whole story.

          Ottawa and Hamilton both have 1,000 “Club seats” which average $250 to $350 per game which bring in $3M a season. Both teams have the Private Suites that bring in another $1M a season.
          The Suites and Club seat revenue is the equivalent of 7,000 regular seats.
          Also both teams get revenue from “naming rights”
          The trend in modern stadiums is to lose regular seat and install the club suites and private boxes – you can bring in a lot more revenue with FEWER seats.
          Fans in Ottawa and Hamilton don’t sit on cheap benches, they pay more money to sit on an actual comfortable seat

    • Of only you could hush hush.

    • riderontheisland // May 9, 2018 at 6:44 pm //


    • I strongly urge people who are tired of this fool, Mr.Red, to email 3Downnation and ask that he be banned again. Yes, again. A supposedly grown man can’t accept being banned with cause from a website and makes numerous attempts to circumvent measures put in place to block him. He has that big of a problem. So please everyone go to the “Contact Us” section and email the administrators asking that Mr.Red be banned.
      Be sure to mention the specific articles were he is commenting.
      Its for the good of everyone, including him.

      • Red and Proud // May 9, 2018 at 7:34 pm //

        Sad when the guy is supposed a Stampeders fan but is banned from the CFLHorsemen site.

        • Even more reason to contact the site administrator and ask that he be blocked. This ridiculous, compulsive stupidity has to end.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 7:50 pm //

          Now THAT, is truly pathetic. Even stamp fans acknowledge he is is bat shit crazy.

      • Or you could ignore him.
        This isn’t where if you say make one negative comment about the CFL you are banned.
        I registered for the Forums on, I criticized about the lack of interest in the CFL in Toronto and that I didn’t believe that Halifax would get a franchise.
        I was banned as a troll, you can not criticize the CFL on CFL forums.

  4. Operating expenses at $24 MILLION seems to be similar to other teams.
    Edmonton with one of the highest attendance in the league but a $430,000 profit, I am sure that means NET Profit. The Bombers announced healthy profit a couple of weeks ago but that is likely not NET Profit.
    I think it shows how tough it is to make money in the CFL. The Argos, Als, Lions must be losing a ton of money.
    Not a good sign for any possible expansion to Halifax. If a team like the Esks with a strong corporate sector, attendance over 30k, strong merchandise sales, no payback for stadium construction, and they only made $400k.

    • Blackhawk89 // May 9, 2018 at 4:05 pm //

      Yeah this league is in more trouble than people are willing to acknowledge.

    • bigboypants // May 9, 2018 at 9:12 pm //

      Keep in mind the injury expenses. If it was an average year, looking at over 1MM

  5. the point made about the strength of the esks in terms of fan and corporate support has to make one wonder about toronto, montral, and b.c. they have attendance problems

  6. Blackhawk89 // May 9, 2018 at 4:35 pm //

    Of Toronto,Montreal,or B.C.
    The league could probably survive the loss of 1 but another would be lights out for the league. Attendance in Vancouver and Montreal will probably get worse this year.

  7. Edward Leslie // May 9, 2018 at 5:04 pm //

    Blackhawk: Aren’t you just a little ray of sunshine!
    What do you do when you aren’t trolling on a CFL FOOTBALL site. Work at a seniors home and constantly remind the residents how old they are and how close to death they are?!
    The CFL officially began in 60 years ago, but it has been around in one form or another for about a century , first as the IRFU and WIFU in the early days. I bet that It will be around after all of those
    discussing it are gone to our reward too.

    • But what does the history lesson that have to do with anything? many businesses that were around for decades have failed.

      Just because David Braley, Bob Young and MLSE are bank rolling their teams doesn’t mean they will continue to do so.
      MLSE is in business to make money, you can expect them to pay the bills for one or two years but they won’t put up with severe losses year after year.
      David Braley can not find a buyer for the Lions and he would like to retire but if he doesn’t find a buyer soon he could give away the team but who wants to buy a money losing business.
      Wetenhall announced last season that he was losing a lot of money and he could pull out soon.
      How long will Bob Young be paying the bills in Hamilton?
      The CFL doesn’t have a rich TV contract like other leagues and not likely to get one with the millions of viewers that are cutting the cord.
      The future is not good

  8. Doug Mc Clintock // May 9, 2018 at 5:09 pm //

    Toronto is worth billions even if no fans came out and is still the flagship in Canada, BC has a rich owner in Braley while Montreal is a question mark but even if one team really falters, the rest would give them a loan to keep the league alive !

    • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 5:43 pm //

      It’s no one’s business how Calgary, BC, Ottawa, Toronto, Hamilton, Montreal do. These are private companies.

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 5:51 pm //

        Since you aren’t a resident of Saskatchewan, it isn’t any of your business how the riders are doing. So stfu.

        • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 6:06 pm //

          Well fortunately the public record gives me the right to see it. Unless Sask wants to create there own subnet closed from the rest of the world that will be the case. When it comes out I many might comment on it too.

      • Nathan // May 9, 2018 at 5:57 pm //

        Hahaha. Oh Red, you just make one dumb comment after another to and make yourself feel good. You really have nothing better to do eh? Quite sad old man. Get a hobby.

    • Awaiting Moderation // May 9, 2018 at 8:20 pm //

      Toronto is worth billions?

      The city? Yes.
      The Argonauts? Definitely not.

    • The Argos worth “BILLIONS”? With a “B”?

      Please rethink such ridiculous proclamations before trying to comment further.

    • How are the Argos worth Billions? that doesn’t make any sense at all.
      13k average with a lot of cheap tickets and offers thrown in.
      Very little corporate or local advertising revenue, the advertising dollars go where the young people go.
      Go to a TFC game and see the advertising around the stadium and the flash boards.
      BC has a rich owner, yes, but he is trying to unload them. Wetenhall is losing millions and we don’t know how long he will put up with losses.

  9. Green&Gold // May 9, 2018 at 6:11 pm //

    The publicly funded teams are the strongest teams in the league financially. Always have been

    • White Horse // May 9, 2018 at 8:27 pm //

      Good response from a warped fan of a public owned team. Com-on man. Would you change your mind if Katz owned the smoes? Get real!

      • Green&Gold // May 9, 2018 at 8:38 pm //

        He doesn’t and he won’t, so no need to think about it. I like Alberta’s team just the way we are.

    • Yet all NFL teams except Green Bay are privately owned and most are making a lot of money.
      “publicly” funded only means that football fans buy shares, it doesn’t mean that the city or province funds the team.
      The people that buy shares in the team are mostly season ticket holders, you lose fans you lose shareholders.
      It wouldn’t work in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver, not enough fans would buy shares

  10. MR. Green // May 9, 2018 at 6:24 pm //

    That’s too bad. They should make a nice profit this season and of course a home playoff game is a major boost. I’m sure they will make a nice profit two years from now. What doesn’t help is were only as strong as the weakest link. I am happy MLSE has the Argos now, even though, for now they have restricted seasting to the lower level but should help the atmoshpere and hopefully result in higher demand. Charismatic characters only help the league.
    Marketing, league wide needs a new angle. Heated rivalries help. I hope the East wins more games. Montreal has about 15,000 good fans the rest suck. I do hope Manziel makes it, he can lure in young fans and the league will need to focus on keeping them. Duron Carter is awesome for the league. He voices his opinion and it makes headlines. He’s a great promoter. When he makes the haters come out, he’s done his job. Carter by then has mind phuked them, especially guys like Red.
    As for the West, the best fans are , Sask, Winnipeg and Edmonton. Calgary relies heavily on visiting fans as Sask and Edmonton are close. Ottawa and Hamilton have better fans. Calgary isn’t even top 5, maybe 6, but are last in IQ, because Mr red brings it down by a ton. Sorry Calgary fans, most of you are great.

    • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 6:31 pm //

      lol if Duron has done his job, than clearly, based on your post, I’ve done mine too 🙂

      • Duron has taken up the vast amount of empty space in your cranium manyhandles.

        Focusssss – “Injuries take their toll on Eskimos’ bottom line”

        Edmonton will do well this year. They have a great facility and amazing fans. Esks will be on a mission this season to play for the Cup in their own barn!!

        • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 7:02 pm //

          Calgary will do well too

        • Green&Gold // May 9, 2018 at 7:45 pm //

          I see us barely taking 1st with Winnipeg and the Riders close 2/3. Flip a coin for positioning there. Calgary will crossover and BC on the outside

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 7:52 pm //

            Thats how i see it as well. Reilly is the best QB in the league and the esks will be on a mission for that home grey cup game.

          • Well G&G….my Riders still have to find a solution on our O line, and shore up losing Muamba. I think your Eskimos are plug and play providing Reilly stays healthy.

          • Green&Gold // May 9, 2018 at 8:28 pm //

            Yup, you guys have depth in other positions that I could see you trading for what you need. Of everyone in the West, your next 5 years look the brightest

          • White Horse // May 9, 2018 at 8:33 pm //

            Put your Doobie down and think about what you just said green whatever.
            You know and everyone knows that 2018 will be Stamps and Esks in West Final.

          • True green // May 9, 2018 at 10:15 pm //

            Love it!

        • Mr Red // May 9, 2018 at 8:16 pm //

          Injuries are the reason the riders beat the Esks last year.

      • You consider this a job? So very sad.

    • The characters like Carter do bring excitement to the league. A guy like Manziel would probably sell tickets too. However, the Als went under the first time when they signed some high priced NFL talent, their attendance dropped to 6k a game and then they folded.
      There are some rich guys around to run teams but their generosity won’t last too much longer.
      There comes a time when they say is it worth losing millions when fans are not interested.
      Are crowds of 13k worth it? it will be interesting to see how the Argos attendance plays out after the Grey Cup win and the reduced ticket prices.

  11. No team in the CFL loses money, thanks to the TSN TV deal.

    • LOL – each team only receives $4 MILLION !!
      Operating costs for most teams are $25 MILLION to $27 MILLION, you can check the balance sheets of the public teams.
      The TV deal at $4 MILLION a team is equivalent to around 3,500 fans per game ($80 to $100 which would include concessions)

  12. Adidas // May 9, 2018 at 8:21 pm //

    Me Red = slug 403.

  13. White Horse // May 9, 2018 at 8:36 pm //

    Hey yup…where were the riders during the Grey Cup?

    • Watching Bo blow it again would be my guess manyhandles.

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 9:14 pm //

        Good times!!!!!!

        • Yeah I bet you and Yup enjoyed watching the GreyCup…..from home. I bet you Chris Jones had long since checked out of the holiday Inn and was back home in Tennessee. Duron Carter was facing drug charges that week to. lol
          Has Chris Jones checked in yet?

          • Ya…..and Roy chose to run home from Toronto. And he ran until he couldn’t run no more. Is Roy a wide receiver yet ?

          • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 10:38 pm //

            And you ended up watching most of the game by yourself after your “friends” ate the free steak and left before half time. Your guests , just like fellow stamp fans at cflhorsemen know that you are just not right in the head.

          • Yes….anybody so completely, overboard obsessed is bad voodoo.

  14. Winnipeg and Regina are both drowning in hundreds of millions in debt because of those white elephant stadiums they thought they needed.

    Neither franchise has a hope in hell of ever paying off that debt. Just the cost to service the debt will be several millions per year.

    When you have a mountain of debt that can never be paid off, it means you’re bankrupt and essentially worth ZERO.

    • At least we will have teams beyond 2018

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 9, 2018 at 11:44 pm //

      I dont know how winnipeg financed their stadium, but Regina owns and operates Mosaic, so technically, the riders arent responsible for paying off the debt. So the riders themselves are far from bankrupt.

      • But everything is better in the middle east Lancaster.

      • Riders are putting $12 from every ticket sold towards at attempt to repay a $100 MILLION portion of debt.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 12:38 am //

          That’s not the riders doing that, it’s the city. Every ticket for every major event pays $12 per ticket. So the eagles concert later this month , $12 per ticket, same with last years soccer game, Bryan Adams, etc. If you have 14 events (10 rider games & 4 others) that’s $5million. Just from ticket sales. Concessions is another major revenue stream.

          • Wonderful. At a rate of 5% that’ll cover the interest payments.

            How does the $100 MILLION principle get repaid?

          • 30 years is a long time to be able to predict what type of attendance and events this stadium might hold. What if projections fall short?

    • Exactly. Both cities could have saves themselves tens of millions of dollars. A swanky new over priced stadium and a huge debt does not guarantee success.

  15. Bombers were scheduled to make annual debt repayments of $4 MILLION beginning in 2017.

    What a hopelessly futile attempt to pay down a $180 MILLION debt load. Will not even come close to servicing it.

    • Oh well….at least you will still have soccer to watch in the big city 51.

    • It was estimated that for the Bombers to make yearly payments, when the new stadium was built they would have to either sell out or be close to a sellout each and every game. That hasn’t come close to happening. A lot of creative accounting going on in Winnipeg.

  16. One thing people never talk about with the riders is the government loans and dedt forgiveness the team has received.
    Also. The riders have 30 years of stadium debt to pay, service fees on tickets cannot guarantee this.

    • How can that be……you talk about everything Riders 24/7………………….

      • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 1:28 am //

        I was thinking the same thing. I wonder what red’s services are worth yearly? The riders could rent out his services since they OWN him.

      • greenenvy? // May 10, 2018 at 1:41 am //

        Light travels faster than sound. So some people appear bright till you hear them speak.

        • Is that kind of like Red, traveling at the speed of dark?

          • greenenvy? // May 10, 2018 at 10:21 am //

            Aahhh. You’re on the same reading list. Remember, half the people you know are below average. You’re too quick for me, Yup.

      • Nice deflection from a fact. Don’t want to talk about it hey? I don’t blame you. It’s hard to admit the pride and joy of your life is a tax payer sink hole.

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 1:23 am //

      What part of “the city of Regina owns and operates Mosaic” is too hard for your psychotic brain to understand? The Riders are merely renters of the facility, so they don’t have 30 years of debt to pay. The city has that debt.

      • It costs between $4 MILLION to $5 MILLION annually to operate that ridiculous boat anchor of a stadium.

        Where’s that money coming from?

        Let’s be honest here and call it as it is – – another asinine government handout of taxpayer dollars getting flushed down the toilet. With the “crown jewel” tenant that’s had a grand total of FOUR (4) successful seasons in the past century occupying ELEVEN (11) dates a year at best.

        • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 1:50 am //

          Dont you live in toronto? Why do you care how sask tax dollars are spent? Zero federal dollars went into mosaic.

  17. Saskatchewan has more than $18 BILLION in provincial debt with an annual defect of more than $500 MILLION.

    The province cannot afford to be making handouts for a nonsensical new stadium. Not when there’s such a crumbling infrastructure that needs to be addressed long before any consideration should ever be given to building a $250 MILLION stadium for a CFL team.

    • We could only hope to have a thriving fan base such as yours 51. Maybe after you dispatched Bo mevi last year, interest in the Argos will pick up for 2018

      • The 2012 Grey Cup win – – at home – – had absolutely ZERO effect on 2013 attendance, so why would the 2017 Grey Cup win have any effect on this year’s attendance?

        • So 12 thousand (and that’s a stretch) per game it is. Yikes

          • Lol Yup… lets let them pay off all of that HydroONE dept they keep complaining about. Talk about a total waste of BILLIONS of dollars! Most of the people in the province have to choose between food or paying for the hydro bill. And he’s calling out Sask. What a joke.

          • Debt**…

  18. Bottom line is that in Regina too much money was spent on a poorly designed stadium, way too many end zone seats, never mind the roof, snowfall, public safety issues.

    • Even if it was the greatest and most glorious stadium in the world and entirely free of any defects or design flaws, it was still way too much money that couldn’t afford to be wasted by the municipal and provincial governments.

    • Lancaster/Reed // May 10, 2018 at 8:27 am //

      So where is your degree in architecture from, and which stadiums have you designed? Im betting you havent set foot in the building, but know sooooo much about it from listening to red. Too many end zone seats? Any stadium that wants to maximize seating capacity has similar end zone seating to Mosaic, especially when you want to block the prevailing nw winds. The other end zone is mostly open with a concourse. And by the way, even from the concourse in the endzone, you have a great view of the field. You are just another know nothing fool.

      • Go back an read the comment again, my friend.

        It doesn’t matter how wonderful or how terrible the new stadium is designed – – the main problem is that the government handout will never be paid back.

        Yet another embarrassing example of taxpayer money being wasted on a ridiculous and unnecessary project. Especially when there’s so many other pressing needs for government spending.

        • Area51 How about HydroOne? That seems to be a lot of wasted BILLIONS(not millions) by the government.

  19. Hear ! Hear!
    Area51 = someone with a common sense.

  20. Outwest // May 10, 2018 at 10:03 am //

    Why does absolutely every conversation on here have to turn into a Stamps vs Rider conversation. Who gives two shits about either loser operation. This column was on the franchise of the league the base of which all other teams are based, leave it at that. There are plenty enough columns on here about your teams, keep the BS on those.

  21. Of course it’s the Riders doing that.
    $12 per Riders tickets, it’s Riders fans at 32k X $12.
    That is no different than what happens in other cities where the football teams contribute to a new stadium or renovation or rent.
    It’s just masked differently.
    32,000 fans X $12 X 10 games = $3.8 M per year.
    It’s the Riders paying $3.8 M per year towards the new stadium, they are the main tennant and if they are not paying the $3.8 M a year they would be paying rent.

    • Unfortunately that $3.8 MILLION the Riders will contribute each year will NEVER come close to paying down the $100 MILLION handout.

      It won’t even cover the interest portion.

  22. The province of Saskatchewan and the City of Regina’s funding model is “Rider Pride will pay pay for it”

  23. The fact is, Regina is a small town and a stadium like they built is not sustainable in the long term. Unless the population can boom which seems unlikely.

    • lol one day that stadium will be world famous. Airplanes flying over head will start jettisoning their waste and trying to land it in the Giant toilet bowl. Planes will start flying off course just for the entertainment opportunity for the passengers.

    • And a city as big as Calgary has the oldest POS stadium in the league. Oh and lets not forget that they can’t even fill that trash heap you call home of the Stampeders. The players sure don’t mind the state of the art facility. You guys don’t even have a weight room, you have a travel trailer.. World class eh?

      • Wrong, no trailer. There is absolutely a weight room. Know your facts please.
        You place the entire value of a city on stadiums and tier 2 sports teams. That is a myopic view of the world. Get out there and get some culture

        • Our trainers room is better than your locker room(looks like a high school locker room). I won’t even compare our Locker room to any of your facilities. Because that’s not fair for you guys.

          • How about we compare records and wins??
            Did your new locker room get you a home playoff game?

      • It’s a CFL football stadium, my friend. Do you think Montreal has a “state of the art” facility? Having attended numerous games in Montreal and in Calgary I can assure you that McMahon is a much better stadium.

        WTF would you advocate spending $250 MILLION on a stadium that’ll be used less than a dozen times per year?

        Especially when it’s money you don’t have and is all borrowed.

        It’s like the guy who goes out and leases s top of the line BMW but can’t make his rent payments and is behind on his utility bills. But, hey, he’s got a shiny new Bimmer.

  24. For the love of God – SHUUT UP !

  25. With injuries come’s added costs.

  26. Horsepowered // May 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm //

    Damn. I wish my highschool lockerroom looked like the stamps or had access to some of the world class training and rehabilitation facilities that they do….yea the oppositions locker room is exactly that the same one the highschool and midget players use…its our house we dont upgrade foe the rest of the league.

    If you actually looked into it it was 3 or 4 years in a row that the organization made major upgrades for not only the players but the coaches and personnel department. In the form of a complete overhaul of training facilities, then the addition of the management building.

    Flap your gums all you want about the choking we were there 2 years in a row and 3 out of 4 with home play off games in all 3 years. Should i even start with their record at home…it is unmatched. Year in year out for the past decade they have put the best product on the field…especially at home.

    Let me know when your jealousy stops clouding your opinion on factual matter.

    P.s adults trying to ban someone from public comments is like grade 2 kids trying to convince a teacher not to let billy come out at recess because he doesnt play our games our ways…grow up

    • You regular season warriors you. As far as I’m concerned The stumps have as many grey cups as 8 out of the 9 teams in the past 2 years. Regular season didn’t equate to rings. Keep flapping your gums.

  27. Horsepowered // May 10, 2018 at 2:03 pm //

    And let me make it clear that the only reason any of you fools are calling for a top down house cleaning is so your scraggly owners can try and swing in and scoop them up.
    Guarantee 90 of fans would want huff as their GM along with his top of the class scouting personnel.

  28. The fact is riderfans only bring up the facilities because it’s the only weapon in their arsenal. They know we have the best organization, they know we have a far more stable situation at every position then they do. They know Huff is the best GM and Dave D is the best young coach in the game.
    But that’s fine keep going with it. Reality is about to pay it’s annual visit to Mosaic.

  29. Lmao! Best young coach in the game! now that is a good laugh. You must have rocks in your head like little dickie did after we destroyed him. I’ll give Huffy credit for being one of the best gms. But even the greatest must fall, and its just a matter of time. Who knows.. this year could be it. This is not his best team by any stretch.

    • Who’s “we”?

    • lololol
      Why is 1 late regular season game so important to ridernation? You seem to think it means something while the 4 games were Dave D kicked your ass prior don’t.
      That game meant nothing to Calgary, no one showed up, 1st place was already a certainty. In case you didn’t notice, the next final 2 regular season games weren’t exactly the best games by the Stamps either.

  30. Tiger man // May 10, 2018 at 3:05 pm //

    And let’s not forget a broken set of headphones…or will that be coming out of Maas’ new contract….

  31. Horsepowered // May 10, 2018 at 8:24 pm //

    Just rocks in his head hey…
    Chris Jones 41-31 for a .569%
    Little dickie 28-6-2…dont even worry about doing the math its head and shoulders above the rest of pack.

    Put some intelligence in your response your disgracing the riders and that is bloody hard to do.

  32. Evil Empire // May 11, 2018 at 12:02 pm //

    Some really weird posts tn this thread.

    Increased by 800K. Not a total of 800K.

    For you slow ppl.

    If the Esks made just one dollar in profits for the 16 season. This article means they would have had $800,000 more for profit in the 17 season. As in 1+800,000 = 800,001.

    Ppl can read here. It’s reading COMPREHENSION that appears to be this issue.

    Brutal !

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