Vince Young says window with Riders ‘closed’

Vince Young has officially ended his Riders career – even though it never really started.

“That window has closed,” Young said on Barstool Sports Pardon My Take podcast.

The Riders added Young to their negotiation list last February and signed him in March to a standard one-year plus an option contract which did not include upfront money.

But Young tore his hamstring during training camp leading to his release. It’s been reported Saskatchewan added him to the “retired” list and therefore still control his CFL rights.

“I really did have a good time in Canada,” Young said. “Canadians, eh.”


69 Comments on Vince Young says window with Riders ‘closed’

  1. RANDALL HOOK // March 18, 2018 at 7:48 pm //

    It really is too bad, what happened to Vince Young! He had the talent and style to do really well in the CFL! I also feel that Dan LeFevre never got a fair shake! My only hope is that RG three looks up with someone during the season and gets a chance to show his talents as I believe he could be the next generation Warren Moon in the CFL

  2. dangerdan21 // March 18, 2018 at 7:55 pm //

    too bad nice guy

  3. The Cats have RG3 on their neg list

  4. Nice to hear Vince Young finally acknowledge what everyone else knew as soon as he signed with Regina.

    It was a complete joke and an embarrassment on the CFL.

    Vince Young…Akili Smith…Johnny Goofball…Joke Freeman…When will the league braintrust quit wasting their time with these washed up 1st round failures from the NFL?

    • Torn hamstring otherwise he may have done well.
      Freeman will probably light up the league.

    • A “complete joke and an embarrassment on the CFL” that a player came to camp and got injured?? I’m afraid that YOU are the one who is a complete joke and an embarrassment. I will give you credit for one thing, however. You and your small but sometimes vocal ilk wear your bigotry on your sleeves. It’s not hard to see what your really saying here.

  5. Calgary now // March 18, 2018 at 8:12 pm //

    So when Calloros gets hit in the chin and is concussed, and teams study the film on Bridge and figure out how easy his errant passes are to pick, what will the riders do?

    • Carry on tradition of losing lol

    • What will Calgary do when Bo breaks a nail and Buckley gets hurt running for his life ?

      • There third string will come in and win , it’s what Calgary always does yup

        • I agree – Calgary has depth but Horse Now feels the Riders have no depth at QB and that’s not the case. Williams is more than competent sitting here at third.

          • greenenvy? // March 19, 2018 at 1:01 am //

            Williams hasn’t shown anything yet, Yup. The biggest concern I see on the Rider offence is the OL. You got the same cast coming back with Clark, LaBatte & Coleman, add Bond instead of Dennis & no LT. Some suggest Bond can play there but he’s 40 lbs too heavy & hasn’t played there. Also deemed expendable in Wpg. So who plays LT if Campbell doesn’t get signed? Collaros came via trade Jan 3. Wouldn’t you think Jones had Campbell lined up before FA or, if he was having problems, see about landing one of the guys out there when they were available? You need a guy to look after your biggest acquisition. Of course, you can always try Bladek or St.John out at tackle – good luck with that. And I’m not sure that last place rushing attack of the Riders last year is going to be any better with the 33 year old Messam. The Stamp OL is a lot better than the Riders crew right now, even with Campbell in there. You’ve got a veteran OL who’s been last, 8th & 7th in sacks allowed the past 3 years. That doesn’t bode well for Zach, even worse for Williams.

          • I don’t know why I’m bothering to respond to you +5. I must be bored, but …
            All our young guys, including some high draft picks – Bladek JSJ, Zver, Merideth is considered to be first round quality, Adusei is a conversion project who made the roster for one game last year – are a year older and the coaches have seen them all last year in practice, so they know what we have even if we don’t. Bond was expendable in Winnipeg at guard. They already have all-star Stanley Bryant at LT. And Campbell isn’t the only LT in the world. Now that our roster is mostly rebuilt Jones may be concentrating on recruiting LTs this off-season, perhaps veteran ones with some NFL experience, like Campbell was in the first place. There are many other options as well, which makes it hard to speculate. Coleman rebounded well this year and he has played a lot at LT before, and in that case maybe we’d look at Bond as a RT. A massive road grader like Bond can make a LT’s life easier, so we could go with Coleman and Bond at LT and LG and then use JSJ at RT where he played in in college, perhaps backed up by Meredith. Is JSJ ready? Don’t know, but he has the tools. Then we could move Labatte to C and use Dyakowski and/or Bladek at RG. Another option at one of the tackle spots might be Jarvis Harrison, who was a 5th round NFL draft pick as a guard but he also played a few games at tackle in college and he was a high school basketball player, so he’s very athletic. So Jones has some good options already, and he’ll undoubtedly have more by the time training camp rolls around.

          • I’m a little concerned with the O but there are options as RFD
            pointed out envy. Riders are no different than any other team at this stage as nothing is proven yet. See how camp shakes down.

          • greenenvy? // March 19, 2018 at 3:00 pm //

            I totally agree Yup. But, as aptly illustrated by Mr Plus 5’s diatribe, Riderville goes into contortions listing prospect after prospect defending their point about the fact you have a weakness at LT. Yes I expect Jones is recruiting LT’s, duh. What has that got to do with having a decent LT. I can sit here with ant team, look at their 9-10 OL & start shuffling bodies around which proves nothing. All your young guys are considered “first round quality”??? By whom? Not Jones – how is it not one draft pick from his 1st 2 years is a regular starter yet?

          • lol! So let me get this straight, you as the question, “who plays LT if Campbell doesn’t get signed?” and then you don’t like it when you get an answer! I guess it serves me right for bothering to respond to a question for you! I should know better, I know, and I will do better at ignoring you and your endless empty drivel in the future.

    • sumyungguy // March 19, 2018 at 9:17 am //

      Funny you should say that. Brandon Bridge had the highest QB efficiency rating in the league last regular season.

      • More ? than answers // March 19, 2018 at 11:11 am //

        On a very small body of work. Fact is, there are 1/2 dozen or so plays (at times when I was watching) where defenders dropped easy INT’s on Bridge.
        Besides that, if he’s so good why would Jones break the bank to sign Collaros???

      • greenenvy? // March 19, 2018 at 3:11 pm //

        When you look at adjusted efficiency, which doesn’t count INT’s that weren’t the fault of the QB (deflected passes etc), & adds in throws that should have been intercepted (dropped by DB etc), Bridge was the worst in the league. Check out Derek Taylor for those stats. If you want to rely entirely on efficiency, Collaros was as bad it gets for QB’s who threw enough to qualify in the ratings. Are we to suppose that means anything this year? I think Collaros could be quite good.

      • Sumy, you have to remember that Greenenvy is an expert on all things Riders so be careful what you post about any stat whatsoever. Any Rider article he will be there too. Like clockwork. Making sure were not TOO happy about our team/players and keeping us in line. Reminding us that the Riders are terrible. So glad for Greenenvy and his expert analysis.

  6. fannotacoach // March 18, 2018 at 8:37 pm //

    Speaking of QB’s, I just watches the highlights of the 2010 season opener between Riders and Als as posted on the CFL site. That was the one that went into OT and what a show of skill by AC and DD. Hard to believe DD fell so far.
    And “Calgary Now” I guess they’ll be much in the same position as, no make that better than the position the Stamps would be in if Bo goes down.

    • Calgary now // March 18, 2018 at 8:43 pm //

      I agree with you, infact all teams would be hurt with the loss of a starting QB. My point is Collaros has a history of injuries and concussions. BLM doesn’t

  7. Just saying // March 18, 2018 at 8:39 pm //

    Vince found out the cfl was actually good and he didn’t have a hope of getting on the roster so he faked an injury. Anyone else agree?

    • So the Riders doctor helped fake the torn hamstring?

    • Calgary now // March 18, 2018 at 8:50 pm //

      Actually, I sorta do and sorta don’t
      I believe the injury occurred but Jones was glad, I believe the riders offered little support in his recovery because it was obvious he wasn’t good enough. Jones really got lucky in saving face. He can forever hide behind the injury now instead of the truth; a poor, amateur decision. I believe the injury was a result of Young being heavy and out of shape.

    • I agree.. he was seen in the regina airport leaving town the day before the news release.. he also didn’t have a limp

  8. Craig Gustafson // March 18, 2018 at 8:55 pm //

    Actually, the “torn hamstring” was reportedly diagnosed in Toronto for unknown reasons.

    Regardless, the Vince Young experiment came and went, I think everyone was aware that Vince was not returning.

  9. Just saying // March 18, 2018 at 9:14 pm //

    I believe I herd that to Craig, and my explanation for that is there is zero press coverage in Toronto, if it was in Regina like I think it would have been it would be headline news. Yes I believe that rider staff helped him bow out to save embarrassment. Just my opinion and probably only my opinion?

  10. Just saying // March 18, 2018 at 9:24 pm //

    Just to be clear, I wanted the Vince young thing to work out as I am a rider fan, but it was clear early on he was a practice roster QB.

  11. 2018 Grey Cup Champs Saskatchewan Roughriders, you heared it here first.

    • greenenvy? // March 19, 2018 at 1:10 am //

      Sure, Johnny, but you’re not the 1st. There’s been Rider guys beating that drum for 2 months now. Nothing new. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • Steve J. // March 19, 2018 at 3:32 pm //

      Johnny, the Riders will be very competitive this year, but that defensive backfield, man, they stunk last year. You can have all the Offence you want, but if you lose by a field goal all the time, what does it matter? Saskatchewan was pretty active in the free agent market, so only time will tell if they can get the right chemistry going in Regina in 2018.

  12. Tinhead296 // March 18, 2018 at 11:36 pm //

    Area 51: How can you even compare Vince Young to that bozo Manziel? At least Young had a decent head on his shoulders and got along with teammates no problem. Manziel is nothing but a bi polar psychopath who should have been locked up. If Young would not have gotten hurt, all the fans wanted to see how he would have done in pre season. If any QB gets hurt in training camp rookie or NFL vet with no cfl experience will most likely be released if they don’t see the field. In this case, nothing lost, nothing gained as the Riders were not obliged to have him under contract, he was released so they owe him nothing. Its just the way it worked out. If he would have stuck around, he might have been a third stringer or practice roster QB. No reason for this to be an embarrassment to the league. Having seen him do a lot of interviews after practices he is a very down to earth team player and one of the nicest individuals you could ever met. Just another player trying to make the team. Give your head a shake.

    • @tinhead296 – – check your facts, my friend.

      Vince Young was just as much of a nut job as Johnny Goofball. Young refused to go back in at QB after a couple bad INTs.

      Then he disappeared a day later and his mental therapist called the Titans saying she was concerned about Young’s mental state after he spoke of killing himself.

  13. Will never know how Vince would of done. Just as he was coming around to the CFL he got hurt and never played. My guess is he would of done just fine but a team needs to GIVE THE GUY the PLAYING TIME necessary to get really good with the CFL. Countless others have been in the same situation and were sent on their way because they were not lights out right off the bat.

    • greenenvy? // March 19, 2018 at 1:12 am //

      Considering Young was not Jones’ first choice, Vick was, do you feel the same way about Vick? After all, he must be better if Jones wanted him more.

    • Young was the perfect CFL style QB, supper athletic and a major threat with both his arm and his legs. It would have been VERY interesting to see what he could have done. You would’ve expected it to take him some time to get up to speed, after being out of the game for a couple of years and new to the CFL game and all, but he was not out of place at training camp at all. I was getting excited … and then he tore his hamstring. 🙁

      • “supper athletic?” Maybe at the buffet table…but he was not in shape, and at his age, and time away from the game, he had almost zero chance of starting in our game…a game which he would have to learn on top of the re-conditioning, which he didn’t seem to want to embrace. I saw him at camp. Mostly it was “deer in the headlights.” His demeanour would suggest that, while he said all the right things, he was shocked at the talent level up here. Possibly, he had the mind-set of so many wannabees, who wander north, expecting to be instant all-stars without breaking a sweat, thinking our league is only slightly better than a junior high school league. BIG surprise! Impossible mountain to climb!
        oooooooh….the spambot math questions are getting tough…almost at grade 5 level. Too bad they don’t use English grammar, or spelling questions! That would likely hamper some trolls.

        • Ah yes, that tell tale over the top rage. You might as well just put a sign on your forehead, or a big tattoo on your neck, as the case may be. Young was 33 last year. That’s 5 years younger than Ricky Ray or Kevin Glenn, and the same age as Mike Reilly. He wasn’t in peak shape yet because he wasn’t signed until March, but there’s no indication that he wasn’t working hard on it. Every indication was that he was fully committed. There would be no point in wasting his time if he wasn’t. The guy was the Heisman Trophy runner up, and he started 50 games in the NFL, and you’re claiming that he looked like a “deer in the headlights”? Your blind hate couldn’t be any more obvious. You disgust me.

          • RFD, you accuse me of “blind hate, rage”…you must have been looking in the mirror when you wrote that. I have none of the above…I was hoping he would succeed. I was at training camp…and I reported what I saw. There are NFL QBs who have played full careers, but still couldn’t figure out our game. Do some research. An NFL pedigree does not guarantee success up here. Take a pill, and chill.

          • BTW…if that’s all it takes to disgust you and, obviously, enrage you, you need to seek anger management help, because, if you ever meet face-face with one of the many posters here who parroted my assessment, you may do something criminal. Chill out!

      • Bleeding Green // March 24, 2018 at 2:19 am //

        RFD even VY said he was not in football shape when he was signed. I didn’t see this playing out when he was signed. Kind of a publicity stunt. He USED to be athletic in College/Early NFL but he kinda JaMarcus Russell-ed in his later years. Sorta looked like he hit up a few Krispy Kreme drive thru’s on his way up here.

    • I’m guessing he was terrible or the riders would have kept him through his injury like teams do with multiple players

  14. The Realist // March 19, 2018 at 2:05 am //

    Vince Young wasn’t the joke. Chris Jones is the joke. Like greenenvy? said Michael Vick was first pick last year. Fastforward to the present and the Riders have second pick Collaros. Franklin was first pick but he didn’t want to play for Calamity Jones, he’s done that before.

  15. Regardless of how the Vince Young experiment turned out, it gave the CFL and Riders some good exposure, and shows that no stone goes unturned when in the hunt for talent.

  16. Exactly – it was always to raise the slumping CFL profile amongst the American market , it bought the league time with exposure on ESPN main service
    Obviously it has done something with Ambrosie and the league – contracts soon to be signed

  17. NFL style QBs rarely work out in the CFL Especially the retreads Anyone with a little milage on them can list a fair number of failed attempts Perhaps it reflects a bias on the part of American coaches in our league or a continuing inferiority complex about our game by some of its fans Have noticed more players signed from the States are once again coming from major US football programs

  18. Any muscle tear hurts, and impedes walking. He showed no sign of such. BEFORE he was “hurt” he was 3rd or 4th on the QB depth chart because he just couldn’t cut it. I watched him humiliate himself in training camp…not even close to number 1 and 2. Obviously, it would be embarrassing to be cut, or carrying a clipboard, so the “easiest” way out was orchestrated by somebody.

  19. Rider4life // March 19, 2018 at 2:40 pm //

    The guys that say we don’t have depth we got a guy that out played DD in college and younger and faster marquius William’s. As he looks good on film and on the field .

    • greenenvy? // March 19, 2018 at 3:42 pm //

      College means squat. There’s college hot shots on most CFL rosters. Alex Ross & Birdsong in BC set records at their schools. Eli Jenkins is 4th on the Eskimo depth chart & was a 3 time All-American in college. You think Williams is unique? Until he gets on the field you don’t know. Most teams including the Riders,would rather not find out how good their depth is if they have to play their 3rd string QB. That’s why they’re #3.

      • Well envy…..Bo wasn’t a starter and he seems OK in your books. At least he does OK in regular season. Never say never, if Zack gets run over it will be down to Bridge and Williams. I will wait and see how he does in camp/pre season. Now that Adams is gone we just might see a bit of #3

        • greenenvy? // March 20, 2018 at 1:12 am //

          Well every starter, Bo, Reilly, Nichols, Ray came from colleges, Yup. And a lot set records at their schools. But I lost count after 16 QB’s passed through Regina the past 2 years & guys like Adams, Waters, Kinne & on & on went away. Bennett was one of the guys who showed well. My point is these guys are not what I consider depth positions. If you want to tell me BC has great depth behind Jennings & Lulay with Fajardo, who has actually played some games, fine. I don’t see it. So why would anyone tout Williams as great depth? Jones hasn’t played him. He had no problem playing Franklin with Nichols on the roster. He juggled Glenn & Bridge , sometimes a few times in games trying to create something. Why not put Williams in there? He had his chances – there were lots of chances with blowout games involving the Riders.

          • Not terribly concerned about the 16 that passed through to be honest envy. I’m quite comfortable with our QB situation and time will tell. I’m not getting any younger so I choose not to live in the past. There are a few loose ends that need sewn up in my opinion but I will leave that to the coaches – that’s why they get paid the big bucks.

  20. Everyone is an expert. You never know until they hit the field… You never know, Young could’ve worked out, but based on his age, and conditioning, it was doubtful. At least he and Freeman were/are humble and excited for an opportunity up here unlike JM.

  21. Pennyrocker // March 19, 2018 at 4:12 pm //

    After spending time with Riders Vince now has insight to how the QB’S play 9n the CFL. Vince can now take his knowledge and teach up and coming QB’S the CFL game and how to read the extra back.

    • You ARE kidding, aren’t you? Vince comes up here for a cup of coffee, can’t figure out the game himself, and now he is an expert who can teach others????? REALLY…he must be the smartest dude on the planet!!!
      How would he learn to read the extra back WHEN HE NEVER PLAYED THE GAME with real bullets flying?

  22. Pennyrocker // March 19, 2018 at 9:53 pm //

    It really doesn’t tell much to learn the fundamental of playing in the CFL when you been on the practice field. Vince would have started in preseason if it was not for a pulled hamstring. If QB’S are to succeed in the CFL they need a coach that understands the position, the extra defense back.

  23. What kind of incoherent drivel!!!! As 3rd or 4th string, he would have played, maybe, one quarter, MAX! ..that would be about 15 snaps, perhaps 8 or 9 passing attempts…and THAT would make him an expert on the Cdn game….Really??? Do you know so little about football, or are you on something? Or, in the alternative, are you one of the guys who has such an inferiority complex that you think anybody who hails from south of the 49th must be head and shoulders above anyone with a Canuck passport?

    • DAKAZ – as you saw how camp went…what were your thoughts on Williams ?

      • He showed flashes, but pretty small sample.

      • BTW, YUP, Bridge came into camp as the #3 guy. So, with 2 younger guys, both with good arms, and Vince throwing pics in practice…it is not a giant leap to conclude that the injury was a way to save face. The media spotlight was on Vince, so how would it look if he was relegated to 4th spot, which could have happened…followed by his imminent release. CJ’s comments were guarded, but he was obviously disappointed with his experiment, even if it did provide outstanding coverage for the Riders and the CFL.

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