Statement from Manziel’s agent as tone-deaf as they come

There’s a lot to unpack in the incendiary statement from Johnny Manziel’s agent issued on Monday night but here are five big takeaways from the firebomb Erik Burkhardt just threw into negotiations.

1. He calls the CFL’s neg list system “archaic and restrictive.” While there are certainly critics of the system, it exists at least in part to keep teams from engaging in bidding wars for players that would quickly prove financially unsustainable for the CFL. Yes, it limits a player’s opportunity and ability to maximize his value – so does the NFL Draft process. Burkhardt doesn’t like the system because it’s making life difficult for his player but it’s worked just fine for countless other guys who have come to the CFL, played for very little on their entry-level deal, then gone on to make more money as a veteran player after proving themselves (or an even bigger payday in the NFL.) If Manziel had better, higher-paying options he’d already have taken advantage of them.

2. Manziel wants to be one of highest paid players in the CFL right away. Here’s the salient line: “…we believe ‘fair deal’ means on par with what Hamilton has paid their QB in recent years, despite not having much on-field success.” As has been well reported, former starter Zach Collaros was the league’s highest-paid player last season with a salary of around $540,000. There is absolutely zero chance the Ticats will pay Manziel that kind of money. Zero. First, they just dumped Collaros’ deal because it was too expensive. Second, they just signed Jeremiah Masoli to be their starter. Third, nobody has any idea whether Johnny Manziel will be any good. He could be Doug Flutie 2.0… or he could be any one of dozens of former college stars who flamed out in the CFL. Add Manziel’s recent history of substance abuse and domestic violence and the doubts are even more significant: the Ticats aren’t blowing up their salary cap for a giant question mark.

3. Burkhardt has given the Ticats a deadline of Jan. 31 “to work out a fair deal to make him their Quarterback,” which makes it sound, along with the contract demands, that they expect Manziel to be the starter right from the get-go (which is not happening.) He adds ” If we cannot reach a deal with Hamilton by this date, we will turn our focus to several other professional options readily available to us.” Which would be what, exactly? The pipe dream that is a renewed XFL? An arena league? Maybe a spring showcase? The bottom line is that the CFL is the best – and maybe only – chance for Manziel to resurrect his career.

4. The Manziel camp talked to another, as-yet-unnamed CFL team about a possible trade but have decided to focus on Hamilton. There will be plenty of speculation on which team (until it inevitably leaks out) but the early speculation is the Montreal Alouettes – the only CFL team at the moment without a presumptive starting quarterback in place (sorry Darian.) In general, Burkhardt says nice things about the Ticats specifically mentioning CEO Scott Mitchell, head coach June Jones and vice-president of football operations Kent Austin. “All of these interactions have been very positive and served to reinforce Johnny’s excitement for coming out to play for the Tiger Cats,” he said. Sounds like the Ticats have handled this pretty well at least.

5. The whole thing is remarkably tone-deaf. Manziel has earned at least some measure of early goodwill by essentially staying silent but his recent return to social media (where he chirped his former team the Cleveland Browns) and now this rocket from Burkhardt will have a significant chunk of the CFL fan base up and arms: just another clueless American player and agent thinking they can do and say whatever they want in regards to the CFL. It feels disrespectful to the way things work around here. And makes Manziel seem like a guy who thinks he can walk into Canada and dominate immediately without having to earn the opportunity. That last part might be the most galling of all.

It was beginning to feel like Manziel had learned something from his recent spate of trouble. But by allowing Burkhardt to issue this statement he has, once again, made himself the story.

At this point, it seems to be the only thing he’s good at.

Drew Edwards

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Drew Edwards is into his eighth season covering the CFL and the Ticats for the Hamilton Spectator. He is the founder and editor of 3DownNation.
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108 Comments on Statement from Manziel’s agent as tone-deaf as they come

  1. Why bother Hamilton? Really as an organization it’s a stupid decision to try to sign Manziel. Nobody cares about Manziel anymore. Except the Ti Cats.

    • Uh, maybe the Ticats are interested because however you want to break it down, Manziel is an asset. The Ticats as an organization are obligated to do their due diligence. Sign, trade, or maintain his rights, that’s their prerogative.

      Any other move would be utter stupidity.

    • Sea of Dead // January 8, 2018 at 8:17 pm //

      The Cats will do anything to get more bums in the seats after a couple of mediocre seasons and that is the main reason that they are pursing JM. If he signs and plays well, that would be a bonus and it would likely fill the stadium too!

      • Lennywasout // January 8, 2018 at 8:34 pm //

        How many sellouts hav3 there been? 90% of the games. We don’t need this douche bag here.

        • Sea of Dead // January 9, 2018 at 8:45 am //

          I’m not promoting the acquisition of Manziel, just stating the obvious from a Cat org perspective. And time for an eye examination if you believe the Cats have been selling out 90% of the time over the last couple of years (not even close).

    • chopper11 // January 8, 2018 at 8:33 pm //

      You’re wrong…

    • The Argos or Als would take him in a heartbeat.
      A controversial QB would sell tickets. Maybe sports fans in Toronto would take notice of the Argos

      • The Als would probably take him, but I very much doubt the Argos would. Franklin (or Ray) will be just as competitive as Manziel, EVEN in a best-case scenario where Manziel turns out to be good, which is unproven. Trestman is a class act and wants a professional team; not a gong show.

    • Sounds like he doesn’t know what street Canada is on! Many are surprised/shocked at the talent level here.
      Experience has to be earned
      Once that happens, then the Ticats will be in great shape. In the meantime, it’s big of us to give him another chance. We were hottest team in the league at end last year. And Zach was 8-2 and by big margins, when offered contract. Onfield success!

  2. Hammerhead // January 8, 2018 at 7:47 pm //

    This guy hasn’t earned anything and will be a nuisance in the locker room for sure! We already have Masoli as a starter adding Menziel is just a bomb waiting to go off. His agent of course doesn’t like the CFL because here the agents can’t gouge the league like in many other leagues. The only benefit to Menziel is selling tickets because of his fame in College/NFL. Hamilton sells out so ship him off to Montreal where there is more uncertainty and pick up a few draft picks.

    • Trent Richardson // January 9, 2018 at 3:50 am //

      Not only is this going to end badly for the CFL and Manziel, it is already a circus.

      Can it really be any other way with this untalented headcase?

    • Hamilton doesn’t need to sell tickets but the Argos need to. Trade his rights to the Argos and maybe they will hit the 18k in attendance this year

  3. dangerdan21 // January 8, 2018 at 7:53 pm //

    Hamilton The Home of CFL circus 1st the Bring in art briles and they want bring another man low character and morals
    There was a Reason Hamilton had a half empty Stadium
    Fans don’t want a circus and what Kent Austin & Scott mitchell have given Hamilton and Bob Young can’t see it
    I know is a former season ticket holder I will not buy another ticket
    till Bob and Clowns are gone I’ll pay to go Detroit or Buffalo to get my Football Fix

    • Then don’t buy another ticket and start cheering for some other team. Not all fans agree with your opinions period. The team had this guy like it or not on there neg list and they are going through the process. As for Art Briles you and many like you have opinions based on what? He has never been charged with anything, had a letter from Baylor expressing he had nothing to do with what happened and in a country that sues over hot coffee never had a lawsuit filed against him. So maybe the only circus is the music playing in your head!

      • Sounds like he doesn’t know what street Canada is on! Many are surprised/shocked at the talent level here.
        Experience has to be earned
        Once that happens, then the Ticats will be in great shape. In the meantime, it’s big of us to give him another chance. We were hottest team in the league at end last year. And Zach was 8-2 and by big margins, when offered contract. Onfield success!

      • “As for Art Briles you and many like you have opinions based on what? He has never been charged with anything, had a letter from Baylor expressing he had nothing to do with what happened and in a country that sues over hot coffee never had a lawsuit filed against him.”

        Slow clap*

        Well said Garney.

    • The only problem is that from June to the first week of Sept, Detroit or Buffalo aren’t playing.

  4. I agree with those who say, trade him or let him sit… Flute was a known product and he came on a mission with a real positive attitude to show football he was good… Ferragamo had an attitude more like Johnny M… I’m not even sure he’d be that big a ticket draw… Offer him $100K + bonuses including some for staying OFF social media…

    • flutie had no other options…picket line crosser ..He got 600 k in todays $ with no CFL and bad NFL resume.

      • Your information is a little flawed, El Marco. After the 1987 players strike ended, Doug Flutie played a further two seasons with the New England Patriots. His inability to find NFL employment after his Patriots release had far more to do with his height (5’9″) than anything that happened during the strike.

        Joe Montana, Steve Largent, Marc Gastineau, Howie Long and Tony Dorsett also crossed the picket line. The scab tag didn’t follow them or affect their employment opportunities either.

      • Ridersnhabs // January 11, 2018 at 5:13 pm //

        Let’s be a little more respectful of a CFL legend.

  5. Nailed it Drew.

    • Agree. Aside from the fact that Collaros had worked his way into a high paying contract over the course of FIVE seasons (2012-2016) and had PROVEN to be an excellent player before his ACL injury, he also is a character guy i.e. he’d do anything for the team and doesn’t have the baggage and questionable rep that Johnny has. For Burkhardt to claim that Johnny should come in and earn a similar starting salary shows his TOTAL ignorance of the league. Maybe it’s just a bargaining tactic to try to get the team to up it’s offer but my guess is that it’s going to backfire and Johnny may lose another season if they don’t show more realistic expectations. Good article Drew!

  6. Packie McBurgers // January 8, 2018 at 8:05 pm //

    We just want a freakin Cup – not a sideshow.

  7. Thought you were a changed person Johnny? Nothings really changed has it? Are you really substance abuse free? Maybe some of the stipulations put in.place by Ambrosie and the league, are continuing drug tests. Us fans don’t.know, the stipulations were kept confidential. Seems a lot of preferential treatment to a player who hasn’t even stepped foot on a CFL field yet. All attention and drama from a college player, who played 8 NFL games. Now you and your agent are making demands. Doesn’t work.that way, was looking forward to see you play and have a 2nd chance, BUT obviously you have a very high opinion of yourself and it’s all about $$$ without proving your worth yet. I did have an open mind regarding Manziel, but this statement is leaving a bad taste in my mouth by this Ti-Cat fan. Hoping something can be be resolved to a fair and decent deal between the two parties, IF not really don’t need the distraction or drama, we’ll see come January 31st, more drama….

  8. justforkicks // January 8, 2018 at 8:08 pm //

    You got it Drew.
    I would like to see him signed for a backup QB fee and let him prove himself. It’s put up or shut up, not too many markets open to him. On the other hand I am Rider fan but still overall a CFL fan.

    • Billinburlington // January 8, 2018 at 8:41 pm //

      Drew sure did. First time in a Drew Edwards article that I can feel Drew’s frustration and angst. I hope his keypad survived this article as I’m sure he pounded the keys hard.

      The five points are dead on. Clearly there is a complete lack of understanding of, and appreciation for our league. I’ve said all along that this pursuit of Manziel and accompying circus is a wild goose chase. 3

      • JoeSchmuck27 // January 8, 2018 at 9:14 pm //

        Completely agree with you Billinburlington. Admittedly, I’ve done my share of trolling Drew. But your comment perfectly summarizes exactly how I feel about this article. Drew, I tip my hat to you…this time haha. Cheers.

  9. Johnny Manboy and his agent are foolking twots.

  10. Antlerman // January 8, 2018 at 8:14 pm //

    The agent is just doing his job trying to get as much for his client as he can thats what he being paid to do.
    I would love to watch Johnny play up here

  11. Blue Rules // January 8, 2018 at 8:14 pm //

    Hamilton Ticats along with the CFL Commissioner brought this upon themselves, I have no pity whatsoever. Simply no one and I do mean NO ONE in the States would waste time or money on this foolish smart mouth woman abuser not to mention his own father wanted him locked up! Question. why is everyone so shocked?….. Oh BTW, Good deal on dumping $540K on the Riders HAHAHA. Now Ticats have lots to sign many players!!BAMB

    • justforkicks // January 8, 2018 at 8:27 pm //

      Good deal dumping the 540 for sure but if you believe Jones will pay that for Zack . . . . .

      • Blue Rules // January 8, 2018 at 8:38 pm //

        @ Just, if you plan on kissing his butt daily, the least you can do is learn how to spell his first name…Zach, go ahead try it!

        • justforkicks // January 8, 2018 at 11:06 pm //

          Oh darn. Guess I’m just not as smart and sophisticated as you. As for butt kissing where do you get that idea from. And don’t say “Zach” is what every rider fan is raving about. No need to get ignorant because you were wrong about his dollar value in Sask.

          • Blue Rules // January 8, 2018 at 11:21 pm //

            Just, we can finally agree on something, your not as smart or sophisticated as I am, now can we be friends again?? BTW his $$$ value is $540K, if Riders negotiate a better deal all the power to them, I’ve already stated 2+1 years at $$400K per year including bonus, then drop him after two years if he doesn’t fit.

          • justforkicks // January 9, 2018 at 12:44 am //

            May have been his value in Ticat land. Not in Riderville. No way Jones will spend that

          • Blue Rules // January 9, 2018 at 1:03 am //

            Just, Zach already has a contract with the Riders. It came with him when he was traded. Only if Zach agrees to negotiate that contract then it can happen. Zach would likely agree if he gets an extension.

        • Blue Rules, not a Riders fan but I am a fan of Zach and until the Bombers win a cup you should keep your trolling to a minimum. After all the Riders have won a cup in the last decade the Bombers haven’t won since 1990! Jones might be a lot of things but he is a smart football man and he just got himself a great QB and one that can play for the next several years at a high level.

          • Blue Rules // January 9, 2018 at 8:51 am //

            @ Garney, so only fans of teams who won a Grey Cup can text on this site. I’m very sorry. I will be very quiet from now on!!!… I think I fished in my idiot limit today¿?¿.. LMAO

          • Sea of Dead // January 9, 2018 at 8:59 am //

            … so says the blog historian dweller who has now become a futurist as well.

      • BleedsGreen // January 8, 2018 at 11:29 pm //

        Why would Vertlieb renegotiate….Collaros has a contract, which the Riders traded for.

        • Blue Rules // January 9, 2018 at 12:08 am //

          @bleeds, because Collaros already has a contract with the Riders when he was traded, Vertlieb will want extend and renegotiate to a lower $$ value with years added. BTW is Vertlieb the Riders GM??

        • Because the existing contract likely has the Riders saying “renegotiate something that both sides like or be traded/cut”.

          There was no reason to change the contract while in Hamilton as it was clear that injury was the only way Collaros *might* get to play.

          Meanwhile, Collaros wants to play so he is likely to be more flexible.

    • Another foolish post by Blue here. Dude, lay off the booze for a day would ya.

  12. Matt Harvey // January 8, 2018 at 8:18 pm //

    Great article Drew. This whole thing is leaving my stomach with butterflies. I just want this issue resolved or buried. Let’s get on with signing our Free Agents. And by the way, I really liked our new back up, Golsen last year in camp. I’m excited to see what he can do as back up when Masoli is pulled from the game after building a 30 point lead in the 4th quarter! Happy times ahead I feel.

  13. Agent’s statement says to me that Johnny football is taking his coke and going home

  14. fk that frat boy loser….let his mommy keep paying his bills

  15. Apparently he has “several other professional options readily available”. I wonder if one of those options involves memorizing the phrase “Do you want fries with that”?

    • You have to understand Chris that we are not all like you. Your wisdom, tolerance, compassion and understanding is not reflected in most of humanity as it is in yourself. You need to be patient with the rest of us, including Johnny Manziel.

  16. Odd strategy by Manziel’s agent. Negotiating in the press doesn’t really work here especially when one side(Manziels) doesn’t have a very strong position to begin with.
    What does he expect considering the damage he has done to himself,family and career?
    Let’s hope for his sake and the Ticats that this is a bit of a hiccup and not a foreshadowing of things to come.

  17. We don’t need Johnny Manboobs here in Hamilton he will just be an unnecessary distraction. He has already proven to be trouble in America and it takes real effort to stand out as an idiot in that country full of them.

  18. Kent Austin and Eric Tillman are boxed in. You trade away a “franchise quarterback” and they must have thought that they had Manziel in the bag, prior to doing this. Now, in order to save face, given the time and effort, they have all put into this, they will have to pay more to actually deliver Manziel which actually could result in Masoli getting traded to Montreal. I would think Scott Mitchell and the entire Ticat upper management braintrust would want to resolve this situation asap especially given that this will likely influence season ticket sales amongst other things. Who knows , the bonus Darian Durant is due on January 15, 2018, could also be playing into this situation. I thought Kent Austin had said that his relationship with Erik Burkhardt is great…. It cannot be that great or the Manziel camp would not have gone public with their response instead of keeping the negotiations private. Did the Ticats know in advance that the Manziel camp was going to make a public statement? This situation could explode on the Ticats and cause the Ticats to lose some of their free agents that they want back such as Tasker. This situation has to be resolved one way or another ASAP.

    • the only one boxed in is Manziel, he is no franchise QB give your head a shake! In order to be a franchise QB you must be with a team for more than a cup of coffee. If and big if he signs he is in the Hammer for 2 years tops then he runs home to try his luck in the NFL. He doesn’t want to be in Canada so why or how can you call this guy a franchise QB when he may at best have 1 good season? The only loser here is Manziel sitting out of football for another year which at that point he might as well retire.

    • Good comments. Let me add a couple of points to this that I don’t think have been discussed. The first is, why on earth has this taken so long? I can understand Burkhardt’s frustration. The league has cleared Manziel. the Ticats have had a year to do their due diligence, and yet they only offered him a placeholder contract at the very end of the 10 days? Whoever the GM is on this team needs to get out of bed in the morning and go to work and get this thing done! Preliminary discussions should have been going on waaaay before the league cleared him. It should have been just a formality once that happened, but now it seems that nothing has been done, and for some reason the Ticats are dragging this out as far as they possibly can. At this point this absolutely does have the potential to blow up and become a gigantic mess.

      What I read in Burkhardt’s statement is frustration. The rest of it I don’t really care about. There have been lots of idiot agents who presumably are good in one on one negotiation but who seem to be completely tone deaf when talking to the media. And yes, he took a drive by shot at the CFL and how it handles imports, which is undoubtedly inconvenient for him, but again I see that as just gratuitous idiot agent stuff. Manziel himself essentially distanced himself from this by saying that he’s leaving it in his agents hands. Iow, this is his agent talking not him.

      On the money, I’m sure this is opening number/range and not intended to be the final one, but when the idiot coach piped up and said that Manziel “could be the best player to ever play in the CFL”, or words to that effect, he undoubtedly cost the Ticats, what? $100K? $200K? Your own frickin’ coach made this ridiculous statement, and you know that’s the first thing Burkhardt is going to bring up when they sit down at the table. “So, what’s the best player to ever play in the CFL worth?” Your own coach said it, and now you’re going to have to pay for it.

      There may be a way out of this, however. You could give him a base of say $250K, just to use placeholder numbers, and then give him bonuses that could take him up close to the numbers Burkhardt is talking about. So if he by some magic does turn out to be the best ever he’ll get paid for it, and if not he won’t.

  19. Victor Reed // January 8, 2018 at 10:43 pm //

    Actually, it looks like they were hoping to trade his rights to Montreal who came away from their meetings with the Manziere camp without a workable deal.

  20. Blue Rules // January 8, 2018 at 11:04 pm //

    Ari, Manziel is likely going to be a media nightmare, Masoli is already signed and has shown he can play. With the surplus money from Zach the Ticats can build their team around Masoli and find another QB. Ticats were a very strong team in the final 1/3 of the season. Had the Ticats made the playoff’s they may have won the GC. Manziel is not worth the drama!!. Let him act on the other suitors his agent claims he has.

  21. Doug Flutie signed a two year contract xomingbinto the cfl with bc lions. The salary for each year was 350,000. So what qualifies Doug Flutie to get that money not playing one down in the cfl. The answer is he won Heisman and the talent and potential was there. Johnny Football comes here with better credentials.

    The present value of the 350,000 In totals dollars is I. The 600,000 range.

    Why is this difference for Manziel. That is what the negotiators have to figure out.

    • … and a reputation.

      Regardless of PV,everything has to fit within the current cap.

    • BleedsGreen // January 8, 2018 at 11:39 pm //

      Because no player in the CFL makes 600K, paying that much means you have to offset a whole lot of imports at league minimum 50Kish coming in. It isn’t that a team like the Riders, that makes money (many don’t ) could afford to pay him that and more if the cap was adjusted. Playing within the rules makes that a very difficult price to pay within the cap.

    • 1) when Flutie played there wasn’t a salary cap in place

      2) The BC owner went broke and had to sell the team after paying salaries like Flutie’s, as did other owners who tried paying out that kind of money to 1 player back then.

  22. CowtownDave // January 8, 2018 at 11:08 pm //

    This has epic fail written all over it.

  23. Victor Reed // January 8, 2018 at 11:12 pm //

    Ticats, are flush with money after dumping Collaros and I suspect they will dump Fantuz and Laurent. That should open up close to a half a million. They will need about half of that to sign their four high draft picks (assuming there are no futures)

  24. Mr Manziel will be a Rider before the end of the month. And you can take that to the bank!

  25. Blue Rules // January 8, 2018 at 11:34 pm //

    @ Thunder, two $400K to $5ooK. QB’s on one team. WOW no need to play the season now. Just go pick up the Grey Cup. Bombers now go 28 years without, and Calgary choked again. congratulations!

    • Your forgetting 3 things. Riders are the richest team in the league, by far. Reported salary and what is actually being payed are two different things. You think Chris Jones took the risk of illegally working out Manziel for nothing.

      • pretty good for the little prairie town with no other pro teams.

      • Blue Rules // January 9, 2018 at 12:28 am //

        @ thunder, so the Riders cheat at every turn, and the best they can do is 4th place. What would they be without cheating 12th place???
        Now I have to say it again, a certain % of Rider fans are idiots, I just fished in another one!!! thanks for proving my point Again LMFAO!!!

        • If you are suggesting for one split second that I am a Rider fan you not only stepped off the pier and missed the boat, in your case the boat wasn’t even in the damned harbor.

          • Blue Rules // January 9, 2018 at 1:13 am //

            Thunder I’m so sorry for calling you an idiot who is a Rider’s fan….your just an idiot, LMFAO again!!!!

  26. well he walked into the NCAA with no experience and dominated his first year.

  27. Manziel in Sask would be dangerous and doomed to fail. Manziel so many willing minons and oligarks he would get away with anything. So may Reginaians would be willing to be that “fall guy” Duron Carter’s dad takes about.

  28. This will be worse than Vince Young!

  29. Footballnut // January 9, 2018 at 12:48 am //

    I wonder how many Manziel bashers actually have watched him play ???

  30. Take this // January 9, 2018 at 12:49 am //

    For anyone comparing Flutie and Manziel: They both won the Heisman but to say that Manziel comes with more credentials is ridiculous. Flutie came to Canada with no court cases, no domestic abuse allegations, no drug and alcohol abuse issues; in short, Flutie had a good reputation. That alone means he had more potential and better credentials than Manziel. Furthermore, there was no salary cap when Flutie signed a big contract. If a team wanted to give him a big contract and had the money to spend, it was completely legal and didn’t matter how big their team salary was. That is no longer true and it is unrealistic to give Manziel that much money without proving that he can play in this league. Nobody knows if Manziel is the next Flutie or the next Faragamo. With his attitude and record, I would guess at Faragamo but that is way too much money to invest to find out. It would have too big an effect on who else they can sign. Some reaction from a few CFL players would suggest that signing Manziel for that much money would also be a locker room nightmare.

  31. justforkicks // January 9, 2018 at 12:50 am //

    Did somebody forget to scrape their boots or is that horsey again.

  32. The Manziel situation has been handled poorly by the CFL and the Ti-Cats. The CFL assigned conditions that were too long, too onerous. However, the Ti-Cats have been completely ridiculous. Where has the plan been – if the plan has been to sign Manziel get it freakin’ fine already. The Ti-Cats have more upper management than Ford or GM does but can’t get a contract done that they have had years to think about? Come On – stop appearing incompetent.

    • The Iceman // January 9, 2018 at 9:43 am //

      So you would prefer to throw a boat load of salary cap dollars on a player without the leverage to command these dollars?
      Thank goodness we do have proper upper management in place!

    • Sea of Dead // January 9, 2018 at 9:48 am //

      ‘Stop appearing incompetent’ … Where have you been for the last 2.5 years? Business schools could write case studies about the levels of incompetence in Cat management regarding salary administration, organization structure/controls, etc. It’s so bad that the Caretaker may not be able to ‘Take Care’ anymore in a few years because the Mitchell/Austin combo have been and continue to be a grossly overpaid financial disaster in result outcomes.

  33. Why is everyone getting so worked up over this? Obviously the agent wants to get as much money for his player that he can… not because of the money but because if you pay him six figures he’s more likely to get on the field faster. Yes, the agent is using hyperbole and doesn’t really have any other options, but so what? The statement is pretty respectfull to the franchise…. what will likely end up happening is he’ll get a few more “incentives” dropped into his contract so if he plays more he makes starter money, and then he’ll start training camp at as the no.2 but will be breathing heavy down Masolli’s neck. This will create great competition and make both QB’s better….. people just need to chill out and not by the marketing head fake the agent is throwing.

  34. i think you will see manziel wind up in montreal

  35. Don’t get into a battle of wits when you’re unarmed…. Archaic and restrictive? So is every player draft. They own you man! What other professional opportunities? If he’s going to be a tabletop dancer, he’s gonna have to lose the flab! Manziel’s just showing he’s a complete tool that won’t fit in; anywhere!

  36. Good article from Drew. It’s turning into a circus once again in Hamilton. This guy would be very disruptive to the team. And as Drew says, no one knows if he can even play in this league – despite the ridiculous comments from June Jones. Lots of stars come here and fall flat. Even Jones’ comments are disrespectful to the great players who have played here. And clearly, Manziel’s character is still lacking. What a headache. Cats traded the wrong guy. They’re going to be thin at QB. Hopefully they can still trade this Manziel guy’s rights for something. Just get rid of him.

  37. How do you prove yourself unless you are a starter? Coming off the bench isn’t the same. Sign JM as a starter, make him prove himself, and let the cards fall as they might. You have a good back-up (starter) in Masolli.

  38. Extremely foolish of the Cats to entertain this possibility. They haven’t even signed a contract and it is already blowing up in their faces. I wish Mr. Ambrosie had stepped in and saved them from themselves on this one too

  39. and we wondered if he has matured???? There is your answer. Show him where Montreal is on the map.

  40. The Tiger-Cats are holding all of the cards here despite what Manziel’s agent is saying.

  41. Flutie was an NFL strike scab who had burned all his NFL bridges. Burkhardt is either a big dummy or has things lined up. Some guesses.. Futures contract with mentor and new Raiders coach Jon Gruden… Some rapper owns Arena team in Richmind, Virginia and wanted Manz .. Spring league in West Virginia.. new XFL..Montreal Als. Burkhardt has a point. locking up an Amateur into perpetuity is unfair, unseemly, and Nefarious. Think on it..They can lock down 45 guys forever. Both drafts NFL and CFL have limited rounds and if not chosen you are free agent. International baseball players such as Japanese and Dominican are free agents at 16. Solution..hold two drafts of CIS and NCAA players with the same rules for each draft. No amateurs. Only graduated or declared. Non chosen are FA. Same high draft pick salary rules whether CIS or NCAA.

  42. Enough’s enough. Trade his rights to Montreal for draft picks and a starting canuck. Reed and his new coach can deal with him.

  43. OldBaldGuy // January 9, 2018 at 11:10 am //

    Good piece, Drew. By the way how’s that Red Green beard coming? Looked great at the Grey Cup bash you guys threw. Far as Johnny Football goes…I don’t think he has any sort of maturity to handle being “the greatest player in the history of the CFL”. Fans of Doug Flutie, Damon Allen, Warren Moon, Calvillo or Lancaster might have something to say about it. Chirping at your old team tells me that he is no kind of leader. 500K? In your dreams…

  44. Bleeding Green // January 9, 2018 at 11:25 am //

    Hooo Boy… I hope they don’t regret letting Zach go now… I know his contract was huge but you should have seen this coming Hamilton. I feel like they were making room for this man-child. This dude is a magnet for crap. Hes not even a member of your team yet and already there is problems. Shoulda kept Zach. Glad we have him!! Way more class than this kid. I hope Masoli is as good as June thinks he is for the Ticats’ sake.

  45. Paul Bomber // January 9, 2018 at 11:49 am //

    CFL has been around long before Johnny Football. And it will still be around when he’s getting the seniors discount at Denny’s too.
    Interested to see him play up here – watched his college highlight reel and can this guy ever scramble and make it up as he goes along… might do awesome in the CFL, but his agent needs a big hot cup of reality poured over his head!

  46. I’m now thinking that ONLY June Jones wants Manziel with the Ticats.

    If his agent has been given permission to seek a trade it’s has all the ear marks of a shrewd Eric Tillman move that would see them get them something for him in a trade and at this time it’s evident that Montreal would be the prime candidate as they’re struggling at QB.

  47. Good bye Darian you will be a backup somewhere at a reduced salary once Johnny signs in Montreal or you will be unemployed! Jones sure looks like he’s a genius and a little more smarter than you DD!

  48. Marcus Aeraleous // January 10, 2018 at 7:05 am //

    People dumping on Manziel and his agent but they are just responding to moves and statements by Hamilton management. They are just trying to do their job which is to get the best possible landing spot for Johnnie. As an aside I don’t think Burkhardt’s statement is about money but about the unfairness of the neg list locking up an amateur for 6 years and trying to force a trade. Manziel knows Austin can’t pay another 500 k so the demand is unrealistic on purpose to force trade to MTL. In MTL there is a former coach and no set QB which could mean playing time. Manziel wasted 2 years of his life and knows it. He does not want to sit behind Masoli. Remember Elway refusing to play in Baltimore and forcing a trade to Denver? Very similar.

  49. Ridersnhabs // January 11, 2018 at 5:21 pm //

    Here is my prediction for johnny , he will get signed to a CFL team and will get hurt in training camp because he is totally out of shape and we never hear from him again

  50. Unfortunately I don’t have time to read all comments. Obviously a hot topic. Personally I’m not impressed by the ignorance and arrogance of both the agent and the player.
    Bottom line….Manziel needs the CFL way more than the CFL needs Manziel.

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