Defining the Stamps after another Grey Cup loss

Team of the decade and best organization in the CFL are used frequently to describe the Calgary Stampeders, but after another tough Grey Cup loss, this time at the hands of the Toronto Argonauts, we may need to reevaluate who the Calgary Stampeders are.

There is no denying that the Calgary Stampeders have dominated the regular season since 2010. They have won 107 games, 29 more than the next closest team over that span (B.C.’s 78); made the playoffs every year; and made seven trips to the West Final and four trips to the Grey Cup in the last eight seasons. Their lowest win total in any season since 2010 is 11 and they have finished first in the division five times in eight seasons. That is a run of excellence that is almost unfathomable to comprehend. The Stamps have been that good over the last eight years.

But then we reach the playoffs and, especially, the Grey Cup and the label of “can’t win the big one” rears its head.

Of the three West Final losses the Stamps have suffered, two of them were at home and both times they were three wins better than the team they lost to (in both cases, it was the Saskatchewan Roughriders). But even the New England Patriots sometimes don’t get to the Super Bowl. It is when we get to the Grey Cup that things really start to unravel for the Stamps.

Despite being, by far, the best team of the 2010s, the Stamps have just one Grey Cup title to their name when they beat the Hamilton Tiger-Cats 20-16 in 2014. And even that one very easily could have swung the other way. The Stamps are a ticky-tack, though legitimate, block in the back penalty away from having a new 0-4-4 area code.

There are probably two past teams, one in the CFL and one in MLB, that are most analogous to the current-era Stampeders: the 2000s Montreal Alouettes and the 1990s Atlanta Braves.

The similarities between the Als and Stamps are striking.

Montreal won 115 games between 2000-09, most in the league over that time; made the playoffs every year; made eight trips to the East Final; seven trips to the Grey Cup; and finished first in the division seven times. The only difference was, the Als had the B.C. Lions to deal with. The Lions finished that decade with almost as many wins as the Als, but their playoff success wasn’t as plentiful. The Stamps during this run have no peers.

But like the Stamps, the Als were haunted for a long time about their failures in the Grey Cup. After losing to the eight-win Lions in 2000, the Als did win in 2002 over the Eskimos, but then lost four straight Grey Cups (2003, 2005, 2005, 2008) before capping off the decade with a win in 2009 (and they followed that up with a third Cup in 2010). The narrative that hung around the Als’ necks like an albatross, and most specifically quarterback Anthony Calvillo, was that for as good as they were during the regular season, they couldn’t get it done in the playoffs.

Sounds familiar?

But much like the Als, the Stamps have a chance to erase a lot of demons by winning a Grey Cup or two at the tail end of the decade. If Calgary follows Montreal’s path and wins some championships late in the decade, all of these bad memories will go away. We don’t talk about Anthony Calvillo, five-time Grey Cup loser. We talk about Anthony Calvillo, three-time Grey Cup champion.

But what if they don’t? What if they only have that one win in 2014 to show for all this regular season dominance? Then they become the Atlanta Braves.

Few teams in all of professional sports can match the Atlanta Braves run of success from 1990-99 (Atlanta’s playoff streak actually went from 1991-2005, but for the purposes of this piece we are only focusing on the decade of the 1990s). Aside from the strike year in 1994, Atlanta won their division and went to the NLCS every single season from 1991-99 and made it to the World Series in five times during that span (1991, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1999). They were a powerhouse, but they left the decade, and that entire 14-year run, with just one World Series championship. The Braves won it all in 1995, but fell short in every other season. That one title stops them from being baseball’s equivalent of the Buffalo Bills, but it still is a lot fewer than a team that good should have won.

Sound familiar?

Right now, that’s the defining characteristic of the 2010s Calgary Stampeders. Immense, even enviable, regular season success with just a single championship victory on their otherwise impressive résumé. History still looks back on those Braves teams with fondness, but also with a little bit of “what if?” They did win a ring, and like Calgary, that saves them from the ignominy of being an 0-fer like the Bills or Minnesota Vikings, but we also look at the Braves and feel they left a lot of championships on the table. It is hard to not feel the same way about the Stampeders.

The decade still has a few years left, so the Stamps could do what the Als did and reverse their fortunes and re-write the narrative that currently surrounds them.

Or they could go the Braves’ route and be one of the best teams of all-time, but one that has way fewer championship banners than they should after so much regular season success.

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130 Comments on Defining the Stamps after another Grey Cup loss

  1. It’s a honour to be in the Grey Cup win or lose.No team can go home a loser.Great Game!

  2. Buffalo north

    • One would think that the Riders five straight turns at losing the cup would have sewed up the title.

  3. The season record and going to the Grey Cup is the real success. The winning of one,just one highly exaggerated, hyped game is fun but can hardly define a great football team.Humans are a complex union of the Mystical and the Rational because they admire the great season but still go for the excitement of that one big game.

    • Sea of Dead // November 27, 2017 at 2:33 pm //

      Winning that one big game is all that really matters, pal. Keep licking the wounds and making the baloney sandwich comments … Perhaps it will help you heal before next year’s training camp.

    • Blue Rules // November 27, 2017 at 2:40 pm //

      2 consecutive losses to 2 teams with a 50% or worse season recorded should be an embarrassment to you not considered a success, plus your season win/loss has declined, looks like Calgary may be done!

      • Blue Rules // November 27, 2017 at 2:58 pm //

        All 4 eastern teams were stronger in the last qt of the season, hopefully they get off to a better start next year, Hamilton is likely going to be very strong, maybe first in the East

        • lol thats funny!

          • Whats funny? Other than Montreal the east had a strong second half of the season. That’s fact not fiction.

          • riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 10:54 am //

            Garney I don’t know what you are smokin man but those are far from facts. Consider that the EAST vs WEST record is 10-29-1, so how are you trying to sell that crap.

        • it is funny cuz the east can never compete during the reg ular season, the bombers should make it to the grey cup and show the stamps how its done soemtime soon, as bad as the bombers have been cept for the past 3 years the stamps have actually been worse in the past 10, being the favs and only winning 2 times 😀 hahaha!

      • do you remember championship teams in the past who had many glory days to get to the final to finally win it? calgary is the opposite now and spiraling downwards, i expect the west to be won by anyone next year, no one should fear the overrated over hyped stamps anymore, we know wha tthey are a team that cant handle the cold weather so go to prehistoric mcmahon knowing you can win every game should be every teams mindset, they are not that good.

    • riderontheisland // November 27, 2017 at 3:56 pm //

      Cisco, get over yourself man cause you are full of crap and probably never played a sport in your life. EVERYONE plays to win the championship, end of story. You my friend are a complex idiot who is spewing BS because that one big game is what everyone plays for. You ever hear a player say, “Oh well, we lost the cup game but man were we impressive all year long”. No you have never heard that because anyone saying has just played their last game cause you are now unemployed. That final game DOES DETERMINE WHO IS A GREAT FOOTBALL TEAM, end of story.

    • season records are never remembered for success, only the last game matters, for instance who ever said they were proud of the buffalo bills making it to 4 super bowls in a row, no one they wanted to win, calgary is the same, always a brides maid that never got the chance to wear that ring 🙂 calgary is weak, deal with it.

    • Come on Cisco, that’s ridiculous. Nothing can take away what the Stamps have accomplished over the past 7-8 season. And nothing can compare to winning the championship. The GC is the league trophy after all. Not one Stamps player would agree with you, they’re all playing for the Cup not the regular season record!

      • True,and Calgary fans have enjoyed winning all season while other fans get accustomed to winning and losing.

        • riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 2:51 pm //

          Ya and you still lost the final game………again. Face it when it mattered down the stretch the Stumps faded because they don’t build a team of character that can step up to the next level. You know how ridiculous you sound bragging about a season where your team went 1-4 down the stretch and in the playoffs. Wow you can win your 13 games out of the gate and then sh*t the bed. I prefer winning when it MATTERS!

        • riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 3:01 pm //

          whats even better is that you have only won one game since Oct. 13. Dude that was almost 6 weeks ago. Now you see why no one was concerned with playing the Stumps in the playoffs. Still a good team, but they can’t step up and it shows.

  4. Red&White Forever // November 27, 2017 at 1:27 pm //

    Only one team gets to be called “champions”, even in a 9 team league. In single elimination games, anyone can win. That’s why they play the games. But, this isn’t baseball where the Braves got multiple games before they lost. Lose once in the playoffs and you go home. Only one team out of 9 finishes their season with a win, the rest all finish with a loss (unless they didn’t make the playoffs at all). I would still rather have my team IN the GC game with a chance to be champions than sitting at home watching someone else get that shot. Losing it twice in a row still sucks, tho (Stamps fans now know your pain, Hamilton). Hats off to the Argos, they were on the right side of all 3 plays that defined the game yesterday despite being outplayed, and that’s the way football goes sometimes.

    • riderontheisland // November 27, 2017 at 3:59 pm //

      way to be classy man.

    • i loved every minute of it was a good game, but your coach ultimately cost your team the game, calling a pass in an obvious run call, you run that ball you win the game, period, time to get rid of choker dickinson.

      • I disagree, was not a bad call as it was only second down. If that pass was incomplete, they still had a chance of the FG. If the pass was not there (as it was not) it should have been thrown away of Bo Levi McChoke should have run himself to centre the ball or maybe even get a couple more yards closer. Nope!!! He throws it into double coverage LOL. Looks good on him.

        • I doubt that throw was a coaches call, I think Mitchell had the option and made the bad choice himself.

    • Riders 09/10 losess were by less total points than Stamps 16/17.

    • Not always on your side of the argument Red&White but your response here was mature and showed class. As a Ticats fan every bone in my body hates the Argos but I celebrated when they beat the Stamps. It’s the under dog to cheer for. Until next year! Oskee wee wee!

  5. Actually, Calgary went home the loser again- while it is nice getting to the big game, one team goes home a loser and it’s probably the hardest loss to get over. And with Calgary so dominant, it has to hurt even more!!!!

    • RealityCeck // November 27, 2017 at 1:57 pm //

      You kinda make it sound like the Stamp lost because of 3 cheap plays? The reality is, in a LOT of games, especially when the two best teams are playing, it always comes down to one or two plays. That’s why good teams play every down and for 60 minutes. It doesn’t matter if it’s a fumble, a drop, a missed field goal or whatever – every play is a part of the game, every play has the chance to make a difference.

      • The Grey Cup is like a good life – it’s Being There that counts.Hamilton’s two Cup losses with Austin still mean a lot to me(especially Banks return )because the Cats were honoured by being there.And yes, every play counts.

      • sad horsie // November 27, 2017 at 3:19 pm //

        Yes all games come down to one or 2 plays. But in this game the key play was a rather unusual play where a single player made a mistake. Not something the Argos did

        • riderontheisland // November 27, 2017 at 4:02 pm //

          ahhh in the game I watched someone wearing blue picked up that mistake and ran it back 109 yrds. Is that the play that you are talking about. Get over it donkey, you lost…………again just like we all knew you would

          • Less sad horsie // November 28, 2017 at 10:16 pm //

            I credit the Argos… but I won’t credit the rider fan base for piling in us over a game they simply weren’t good enough to play in

          • The game that the Stamps were in basically by default of a bad coaching decision by Edmonton.

        • Bo Levis Michelle all he had to do was hand the ball off to messam and he probs scores, only a moron throws a ball n that situation and probs was the dumbass coach dickinson, however i loved the outcome made canada happy 🙂

        • and yes it was something the argos did, they hit him he fumbled the ball your receiver is a dumbass for making that mistake as well as your qb and coach, argos dominated your arrogant prick of a team, not even close to being the best team since 2010, if you want to go to true dyanasties look no further than the eskimoes 5 grey cups in a row or winnipegs 4 grey cups in 5 years themselves or 3 grey cups in 7 years 1984- 1990, calgary will never be mentioned with the likes of those championship teams. and will never deserve to be so.

        • Blue Rules // November 27, 2017 at 4:46 pm //

          Argo’s stripped the ball from Calgary, recovered the ball before Calgary did then returned the ball 109 yards without being tackled by Calgary without taking a penalty setting a new GC record which includes Calgary on the wrong end of that record, that is just one of serveral plays. Meh….. other than that kinda did nothing, oh ya bo ME vi Mitchell wanted to be the hero so he passed in an obvious run situation, Soooooo who does Calgary plan to lose to next year???

          • Bo ME VI , man that is awesome , will laughm all year next year watching MEvi play !!!! Going down as possibly one of the best new chants to incorporate to bug the poop outta and stampeders !!!!! where ever they play !!!!

        • All the more reason to NOT make the mistake. No opposition, just poor execution. That’s worse man. If you are beat, you are beat. You get paid big bucks to do a job but so does the guy across from you. One of you will do it better than the other. By what you say, there was even less reason to screw up.

        • Lancaster/Reed // November 27, 2017 at 9:23 pm //

          The argo player forced the fumble by pulling hard on the arm holding the football. It was a takeaway, not an oops i dropped it.

      • problem is the 2 best teams wernt even in the grey cup just the 2 luckiest, but thank god toronto beat up team arrogant 😀

    • the bombers of the early 1990s can atest to this, i dont know why anyone would be happy losing in the grey cup game we would have rather not played in them it hurts more knowing the other team beat you then to think you could haev beat them regardless, calgary just isnt a championship calibre team.

    • I am sure Bo Levi one of the CFL’s greatest football leaders and most exciting players in recent history is weeping uncontrollably over one game.He’s already planning for next season like winners do.

      • Paul Bomber // November 28, 2017 at 11:04 am //

        Yes, that’ll be a good strategy for Mitchell (to imitate a winner)

      • riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 11:24 am //

        Hey Cisco, you mean like he did this time last year? Everyone outside of Calgary and the mindless analysts knows that he is and always has been overrated. Its those wonderful games in November that validate it each year. He has always played on a team that has the best Oline and running game in the league. Those 2 things are on the top of every QBs wish list since forever. Take either of those away and this jackass disappears with this tail between his legs.

  6. The term “chokers” may be harsh but unfortunately the team has earned that label. Much like the Flames in the early 90’s the Stampeders dominate in the regular season but can’t get it done once the games really matter. Now we know how Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabres fans felt in the 90’s… Us fans really feel for the individual players and coaches, they did a great job this year. There will be changes of some kind though. Let’s hope Huff and the owners take their time with decisions instead of making knee-jerk reactions.

    • its a name that is well deserved of this bunch of arrogant pricks i love it when players like Bo Levis Michelle and Carter open their traps then dont win the big one, shows how little character of human beings they are 😀

      • Angry are you? Why don’t you meet with Hufnagel personally and also sit down with the commissioner and get this problem solved ASAP. Its fans like you that can truly make this game better.

        • lol im sure he will see for himself, that the coach layed out this plan and failed, thus the coach will be held responsible, dickinson was pampered from the qbs he learned from flutie and garcia thats when the stamps were actually a feared team, not now, this team is nothing like those teams. Gar SEE YA soon dont let your ass hit the door 😀

  7. justforkicks // November 27, 2017 at 2:13 pm //

    Calgary has been dominate the last few years but they have not been improving although you may say hard to improve when you are already good. However other teams have been improving and Argos are an example of that. It sucks to lose but blaming the fumble for the loss is wrong as is the interception. If they stopped the run back for a TD, if they stopped the bomb for TD, if TO had not made those plays and had not stopped the Stamps at other times.

  8. Jim Harvie // November 27, 2017 at 2:18 pm //

    Those two futures are the only ones open to the Stampeders. My Ti-Cats should be so lucky

  9. sad horsie // November 27, 2017 at 3:28 pm //

    So what should they do different?
    Go into training camp next year and tell the players to play “Just good enough to get by” in June, July, August and Sept then start playing better in Oct and Nov? Tell them not to play for 1st in the west? Tell them to start losing games if they get off to their usual good start?
    I’d love all the critics to please give us the blue prints on how the Redblacks and Argos built their championship teams, or the Riders in 2013.

    • just get a bunch of players who arent cowards in cold weather, aka no doug fluties, michells and so on.

    • riderontheisland // November 27, 2017 at 4:07 pm //

      Why ask us because you are extremely smug talking about how brilliant Huff is all season long. Some GMs just don’t look at the personality of a player when they name them a starter. Personally I think it’s your arrogant QB that is your problem, but Huff brings in players that dont have the heart to step it up a gear and win the big game.

      • Yes the Stamps have had their problems, no doubt. Could even call them incompetent at times. Yet they’ve outperformed your Riders by a long ways the past 2 seasons. Logic would then dictate that the Riders are then a “really incompetent” team. Makes sense to me.

        • riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 11:57 am //

          That is just stupid so I guess if it makes sense to you then….well if the shoe fits put it on your stupid head. The Riders have had a massive overhaul the last 2 years from head to toe and still finished this season more dominant than the Stamps including a beatdown on them in their own trashy stadium. Plus we both were 1-1 in the playoffs and lost tight ones to the Champs. The difference is everyone knows that we will only get better, where the Stumps………oh well “better luck next year” is their new bumper sticker.

          • Just curious. How good are the Riders going to get and for how long.

          • riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 2:47 pm //

            I’ll ignore your tone and just say that you will see us in the final next year and I expect we will hoist the cup. That said we are still not solid with one starting QB, but I expect to be in the final and probably win. I say that with the same confidence as 2013 and I won’t speak to additional years because that’s just dumb.

  10. I have been saying for years when the weather gets cold, calgary chokes and folds the tent, they are not even close to being the leagues best team since 2010, are they the most arrogant though, yes, i doubt they make it to the grey cup next year but if by some fluke they do make it there and the game is on the line, do you think dumbass Levis Michelle will be smart enough to hand the ball off to Messam? Probs not, Calgary is the laughing stock of the cfl who has only won 8 grey cups in its history, not even close to what is it now, torontos 16 or 17, Deadmotnons 13, winnipegs 26 grey cup appearances in 105 years, thats once every 4 years for christ sake. Calgary, learn to not open your yaps before the grey cup games cuz the better, classier, team won this game, and every team except for Deadmonton is classier than Calgary.

    • ESKSFAN_81 // November 27, 2017 at 4:07 pm //

      The Bombers haven’t won a Grey Cup since 1990. Get over yourself. You sure did some good hiding after the Esks beat Winnipeg a couple weeks ago. What happened? Can’t back up your big talk??

      • and you blew a 14-0 lead to these same stamps so you didnt fare any better but i went tot he esks facebook fan page and congrat them on that same day, how does it feel to blow such a lead by the way to lose in the western final 😀

      • Dan Bombers // November 27, 2017 at 8:22 pm //

        Ryan talked a lot of shit and your right he totally disappeared after that game

        • Ryan constantly talking about Edmonton and Calgary being “arrogant” and “having no class” is comical seeing how he’s the most arrogant poster on this website.

  11. Mahmoud Ali // November 27, 2017 at 5:46 pm //

    I think this business of calling teams losers or chokers is misplaced. In every final the championship is on the line and there are two teams who try to give it all they’ve got. One could even say that the less-fancied team might have more motivation to proove themselves. Brilliant and gutsy plays, mistakes and errors, and sometimes blind luck, all play a role, and in the end one team wins.

    When it comes to discussing successful seasons I think it would be fair to say that most fans would prefer a winning season to a losing one, would prefer success in the playoffs to failure, would prefer to get to the Grey Cup rather than not, and finally, would prefer to win the Cup. Clearly, Calgary reached the penultimate position of preferences. As an Edmonton fan I would have prefered the Eskimos to have got to the Grey Cup and lost than not to have been there.

    Enough with the slings and arrows folks, and well done Ricky Ray and the Argonaut team.

    • nope they deserve every arrow they get flung at them here, most classless team in cfl history just look at the way they are so smug in thier interviews 😀

  12. Well, the chokers label is well-earned as the stampeders seem to falter when you can see your breath. It looks really good on them because of the arrogance of the organization, their players and some, not all, of their fans. Having said that, look for some major changes for the stamps this off-season. Huffer is smart enough to know that the culture of choking in the playoffs has gotten into existing players psyche and will look to change that culture and that means changing some players and/or coaches. Playoffs for 13 consecutive years and only 2 grey Cups to show for it despite being overwhelming “favourites” the past 2 seasons. Not really the most successful franchise of the past decade as both the Argos and the Riders have won as many Grey Cups as the stamps. Unless successful is defined as getting sent home with your tail between your legs after failing to win the game that matters most. Man that has to be eating the entire organization, players and fans up inside!

    • as you see Riders 13 knows it as well, no one has been bragging here mor than the calgary fans on this site, sweet to see t hem bitter and not show up now when they choked again 😀

  13. solara2000 // November 27, 2017 at 5:57 pm //

    What can’t be taken away from the Stamps is their record of success. Yes an extra GC or two would be the icing on the cake. And which franchise wouldn’t trade their record for the Stamps record? And which fan wouldn’t want to go home much more often than not, revelling in their team’s success. And which team (players and coaches) wouldn’t be appreciative of an organization with top-notch people who year in and year out surround them with teammates that bring out the best in them and give them a shot at the ultimate prize?
    We need more class organizations like the Stamps, not less.
    A Ti-Cat fan.

  14. Dickenson doesn’t seem to unite the team like a Trestman and some of the other good CFL coaches do. In his teams the players run the team and the unity falls apart as the season goes on.

  15. sad horsie // November 27, 2017 at 9:09 pm //

    Oh FYI everyone…….Bodog as already declared Stamps favorites for 2018 Grey Cup,,,,,,,,,we aren’t going anywhere

    • Changes are coming to the stamps there horsie. Huff is pissed and the culture has got to change. Unreal that you’re bragging already…the day after the stamps choked yet again. There will be consequences lol.

      • sad horsie // November 27, 2017 at 9:36 pm //

        OH is he pissed? Is that what he told you in his season end consultation with you today Riders13?? Calgary will be just as good next year. The riders still have major problems. Including a fan base who take more joy in other team loses than their own wins

        • Haha what a hypocrite you are. All season long you slag on everything Riders and Jones and now you whine when posters accurately apply the choker label to your stamps. Another interesting fact…Dickie has never led the stamps to a Grey Cup victory…either as a player or a head coach. Maybe he’s the culture problem. There are changes coming to the stamps…book it.

          • sad horsie // November 27, 2017 at 9:51 pm //

            Well. He was only our starter for 2 years and only been our HC for 2 years…so the body of work isn’t that big. Was it Dave’s fault Jorden fumbled that ball? Dave is just fine… I’d worry about what Jones is up to. Where is he anyways? Some dark corner of the states doing god knows what. The guy lives in a hotel room during the season. Shows how committed he is to your team and city

        • NOPE !!!! Fluffnagel is what he always has been , a mediocher man with limited success , NEVER good enough to achieve greatness BY HIS OWN !! ( citing JJ Barnagle —- huff was the weak ling there as well !!! inhis playing days ) SO yeap Fluffnagel will sit and stew and think himself great , a legend in his own mind !!!!! and FAIL and FAIL and FAIL yet again !!!!! goshh his team realy does mirror what the man is MEDIOCHER with limited success —– man so glad he decided he was to good for Rider nation , now we actually have a chance to create a dynasty , having the next best coach to Tressman in the league is a huge advantage !!!!!!

          • BigRedMachine // November 27, 2017 at 11:25 pm //

            Actually Huff honored his contract just like he expects his players to do. More integrity in his little finger than Jones.

        • If they don’t ditch McDaniel they’ve got a major problem, his teammates won’t forget his attitude and things he said and that attitude is poison to a locker room.

    • Lancaster/Reed // November 27, 2017 at 9:29 pm //

      And the esks and riders are tied for 2nd best odds. Not bad for a team after only 2 years of a complete rebuild.

      • sad horsie // November 27, 2017 at 9:32 pm //

        lol
        “Not bad for a team after only 2 years of a complete rebuild”
        Ask the Toronto Argos how impressive they think your rebuild is going Lancaster Reed. They put your rebuild to shame didn’t they?

        • And no record fines for cheating!

        • UMMM every time you open your mouth you PROVE how moronic you are !!!!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lets see , Toronto did a increditable job !!!!!! agreed , but they had a ton more building blocks then Jones, we love Doubles but is he as savey as RR, , NOPE !! Jones gutted a team and pay structure that was unworkable, and built fomr the ground UP !!! He tossed sericaable to great players due to salary ( ie Chick/Dressler ) man its so frustrating trying to educate a person with the intelligence of a dried carp!!!! Horse just go way !!!! and play with the toys your mom gave you for your 1st birthday !!!That way your intellect wont be challenged !!

        • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 12:01 am //

          stamps aren’t even in rebuild mode, but they were put to shame by the argos. What was your point again?

      • greenenvy? // November 27, 2017 at 9:35 pm //

        Ok so now you’re bragging Lancaster. I’ll give Riders credit – did better than I expected. Still, if you don’t get a QB there’s no Cup in Rider future. Glenn is not good enough to win one. Good enough to get to the playoffs but that’s it. Bridge – he’s not the guy you need either. Jones knows it or he wouldn’t have kept flip flopping between the 2 of them in the final.

        • Chris Jones will try to sign James Franklin for sure.

        • Hmmm good points but Bridge might suprize especially if there is a chance that they ratio changes and a cdn qb counts as a starter !!! Our biggest problem last year was still the pass protection sooooo finding a stud olineman (international or having 1-2 American blocking Running backs ( say a Marshall/Richardson / Thigpen, combination ) even makes KG a bit better and he did have close to a career year last season . NOt sold yet on Franklin like Bridge he has looked good at tiems , but still is UNPROVEN !!! easy to be a backup for a goodm QB in Riely and with good offensive coaches !!! time will tell !! Jones has a plan , it will be a good one , we will be competitive — jones will not break the bank for any unproven QB . Plus what other teams do in off season will impact on if the Riders reach the promised land or not !!

          • greenenvy? // November 28, 2017 at 1:37 am //

            You guys don’t keep up with the news do you? Franklin has workouts scheduled with some NFL clubs. If he signs with a CFL team he’s only committing for a year. Bridge has thrown 16 more career passes including 4 more picks. Franklin won a bowl game, was MVP in another & highly recruited by colleges, ranked top 5 prospect. Injuries deep sixed his draft year. Bridge had a mediocre college career. Franklin is a “pure passer”, Bridge is a poor passer. Check out Derek Taylor’s stats on Bridge. You can take a chance on Franklin but he may be gone in a year. But you need someone other than Bridge or Glenn if you want to get to the Cup. Worst QB’s in the West division.

        • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 12:08 am //

          So how does saying not bad for year 2 of a rebuild constitute bragging? Did i say the riders were a lock for the grey cup? NO
          Greenenvy. Who exactly is your team anyway? I know you hate the riders, but is that all you are?

          • greenenvy? // November 28, 2017 at 1:43 am //

            Dissing Horse for Stamps rated 1 by bookies & then crowing that Riders, a 4th place club, are ranked at 2nd best odds is doing same thing you accuse Horse of.

          • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 6:50 am //

            That was a fraction of a fraction of what donkey does.
            Whats your team? Stamps? Edmonton? Do you have one?

  16. ArgoFanForever // November 27, 2017 at 9:53 pm //

    I’ll say this, the Riders with Jones are on the upswing. I’d be worried if I was a western team supporter, especially the chokers from Calgary. lol

    • Thanks Argo, we are hoping for a competitive team next year; the road will be tough as there are many great well coached teams planning to do what you guys just did !!! Your team will be great challenge as defending champs with Tressman leading the way !!! The guy sure understands CFL football, unfortunately for him it fails to translate into a successful NFL career. Anyway good luck to your team next year and have a successful off season /// we gunning for ya !!!

  17. lol Punk your are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo pathetic , well I quess BO dog likes chocker s !!!!!!!! Bodog probably is wanting to get an early start on making Another TON of cash off sucker Stampeder fans who will bet their houses etc on the STAMP sure thing , only to have them CHOKE!!!!!!!!! again and be the laughting stock of Canada , come to think of it no wonder Calgary has such a HOMELESS problem !!!! only idiots bet on the STUMPS to come through when it really counts !!!! By the way how does that loud mouthed jerk of a mayor look to you in his ARGOS!!!! jersey !!!!!!!!!!

  18. Geoff Mackey // November 27, 2017 at 10:10 pm //

    My team won. Unbelievable they did. I went to my friends home after work to watch the game. i’am in a bad mood knowing Galgary should win this game . Why do I put myself through this misery and watch this game? Argos win, WOW! I feel for Calgary FANS, your time is coming and it will be SWEET. Cinderella season for my ARGO,S. . From a far i feel Ricky Ray should retire just like Henry Burris did last year as a CHAMPION. Thanks Ricky , Next Chapter Assistant Coach Edmonton.

    • Congratulations Geoff. You should be happy and proud of your team. I’m sorry so many rider fans want to make this about a Calgary loss rather than what it should be about. An Argonaut victory.

      • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 12:11 am //

        Says the donkey who wouldn’t acknowledge that the argos were the better team on the day.

      • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 12:33 am //

        Hell donkey, you couldnt even acknowledge that toronto caused the fumble that turned the tide . But good job trying to turn it against rider nation. Good thing most people are too smart to fall for your bullshit. Except for calgary fans of course.

        • Lancaster please!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let the Argos have their moment. They won regardless of what I think. I don’t know why you want to make this about Calgary, other than your blind jealousy and resentment for the superiority our organization has over your.
          Congratulations Agonauts

        • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 7:13 am //

          Why would anyone be jealous of a disfunctional team like the stamps? The minute things go wrong, they point fingers at each other. Mitchell did it after last years grey cup too. Zero team unity when things go wrong. That indicates very weak leadership, from the head coach on down to the team captains. They are an arrogant team based solely on regular season success. Newsflash, if you aren’t grey cup champs, you have zero bragging rights the following year. Do the stamps arrogant fans feed the teams arrogance? Or vice versa?
          Now, its time for you, donkey, to get yourself to a psychologist as your narcissistic, sadistic, psychopathic trolling means you are one very sick donkey.

          • Disfunctional team???? Common Lancaster that’s ridiculous to say. On lucky play away from the cup Lancaster…. I’d worry more about your practice field fights if I was you. Look for the riders to be over cap and Jones to be fined again this off season

          • Lancaster/Reed // November 28, 2017 at 5:52 pm //

            Wow donkey, so much nonsense and drivel coming out of you today. I suspect you were drooling so much while typing it you are now dehydrated.
            I would bet you about the riders and the cap, but everybody knows your integrity is nil, and you would never honour the bet.
            Now as far as dysfunction and team unity, let me teach you something.
            Sports teams can be like family. Now , since a psychopathic narcissist like yourself could never fit in with, or even understand your own family dynamic, i will break it down for you. A close knit team like the riders are like family. When adversity happens, or a member screws up, they rally around each other, and support each other. Do families fight? Of course they do. Physical fight? Yes, especially if there was a physical contest among them that led to the argument. Emotions still happen in the family dynamic. What a close knit group will not do is publically blame or shame each other. After the rider fracas, neither player involved pubically blamed each other for the altercation. It was kept all inhouse, as a family would deal with it.
            Now look at calgary. Mcdaniel completely embarrases and demeans jorden by publicly blaming him for the loss. All the sports analysts were commenting on how that is just completely wrong, and how it points to major issues in the clubhouse. Mitchell basically did the same thing last year after the stamps lost the grey cup to otttawa. He publicly questioned the decision making of dickinson and the other coaches.
            Like i said donkey. DYSFUNCTIONAL.

      • This article is about Calgary’s loss, not Toronto’s win.

  19. Dundas dude // November 28, 2017 at 10:17 am //

    Not to rub salt in the wound here, but the 2014 win has the big asterisk with that marginal penalty against the TiCats nullifying their likely game winning touchdown. The Stampeders were overwhelming favourites in 2014 too. There is a big element of luck (or bad luck) here. This talk about “choking” is just angry payback talk. I like and respect the Stampeders. What bugs me is the constant chirping we see about the East. The goal here isn’t season wins, it’s peaking in November and winning the Grey Cup. Sunday was not an upset, Toronto was as good (a little better) than any of the other last three teams.

    • I’m not disagreeing with that Dundas. The Argo’s were a good team by seasons end. Trestman and Popp did a tremendous job with no real off season and turned the team around. However taking away that fumble/ TD its’s hard to imagine Toronto wins this. It’s hard to deny Calgary was better for 99% of the game. Luck was involved as it always is. I’m not taking anything away from the win. I agree the east took some criticism. Rightfully so early on. I say your beef isn’t with stamp fans, I’d say it’s with rider fans telling you all how thye’d be in first place if they were in the east, telling you how they’ll breeze through the eastern playoffs.

    • Dundas dude – I agree that Sunday wasn’t an upset as the stamps were weak the last month of the season and the Argos were gaining momentum each week. However, you need to face reality, the 4th place team in the west had a better record that the 1st place team in the east and neither the Argos nor the RBs would’ve had a home playoff game in a one division league. In addition, there have been years when all 5 western teams would’ve made the playoffs in a one division league. Among other reasons, it’s one of the reasons that I’d like to continue the east/west division format because eastern interest would likely severely wain and threaten the very existence of the league. Besides, 50% of the last 10 Grey Cups have been won by the east so it maybe isn’t as lopsided as the regular season seems. Congrats to the Argos, they deserved to win thanks to Ricky Ray, the Jorden fumble strip and the Black int but the stamps were overwhelming favourites and choked. The Argos just served them the crow.

      • Rider 13
        We all can see the underlying message of your above comment is the riders were screwed. Do you ever notice only riderfans make excuses for loses? It ironic, the team that benefited the most for the current playoff format was the riders yet they complain!. They finished 4th and were rewarded with the easiest road to the Grey Cup. They could get there without playing a team with a winning record. Yet they fell short. Last week it was the officials fault. Now it’s the playoff format that prevented them form winning the cup.
        This is a great opportunity for the league, the Argos and all the fans to help create interest in Toronto, Instead of engaging Argo fans the rider fans make this all about them as usual. Turning off potential Argo fans in the process. You do more to hurt the CFL than you do to help it. COOL IT!

        • You’re a jackass. I never mentioned the Riders once and I’m in favour of the East/West divisional rivalry. Lastly, I was cheering for the Argos, despite the fact that they beat the Riders in the east final, so crawl back under your rock. Or at least learn how to read and stop putting words in people’s mouths.

          • Less sad horsie // November 28, 2017 at 4:25 pm //

            “the 4th place team in the west had a better record that the 1st place team in the east and neither the Argos nor the RBs would’ve had a home playoff game in a one division league”
            Riders13. Even though you don’t say it in exact words this statement about Ottawa and Toronto having a home playoff game very much implies that you think Sask should have had them. It’s called reading between the lines. This completely ignores the fact Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg, all with with far better records than the riders had to play each other while Sask played easier teams.

          • Talk about disrespect!! The Argos are the Grey Cup Champs and you call them an “easier team”?? Your arrogance is exactly why a lot of fans don’t like Calgary fans. They’re a reflection of the team. I think you owe the Argos and their fans an apology.

  20. BLM commented himself after the game that he saw Black but thought he could make the throw over him. Overestimated his ability or underestimated Black – or maybe some of both but it almost sounds like it was his call. Or maybe he was given an option by DD.

    • This is true. He said if the ball was another 3′ deeper. Well, that’s the ENTIRE point Bo! You said we don’t play the game. You’re right, we don’t. That is why we would make a throw like that but you should make the right one. That’s why you’re a “pro”. Seems like he wants it both ways: if I complete it I’m awesome, if not, you know jack.

  21. riderontheisland // November 28, 2017 at 2:56 pm //

    whats even better is that you have only won one game since Oct. 13. Dude that was almost 6 weeks ago. Now you see why no one was concerned with playing the Stumps in the playoffs. Still a good team, but they can’t step up and it shows.

    • Less sad horsie // November 28, 2017 at 4:28 pm //

      Your team wasn’t good enough to be in the big game where they? Your great defence choked and couldn’t close the argos out could they?

  22. To comment on something relative to this article, it compares the Stamps to the ‘00-‘09 Alouettes but I think a better and more recent comparison is to the Riders. If you compare the 2, ‘07 for The Riders was the 1st win like ‘14 was for the Stamps. ‘09/‘10 were was the Riders back to back losses, like 16/17 is for the Stamps. Then the Riders won 3 years later in ‘13. So, if the same kind of pattern holds for the Stamps maybe they’ll win in 2020.

  23. Choke-Levi Mitchell // November 28, 2017 at 4:56 pm //

    Defining the Stamps – Choke Artists.

    • No, I’d say choking is finishing 4th and then getting knocked out in the first round. But that’s just me.

      • Choke-Levi Mitchell // December 4, 2017 at 11:22 am //

        Googled it for you: “In sports, a choke is the failure of an athlete or an athletic team to win a game or tournament when the player or team had been strongly favored to win or had squandered a large lead in the late stages of the event. Someone who chokes may be known as a choker or, more derisively, as a choke artist.” See; Bo-Levi Interception, or Kamar Jorden fumble.

  24. Paul Bomber // November 29, 2017 at 10:39 am //

    If the Stamps can learn to respect the team on the other side of the ball, especially punks like Singleton, Hughes and Mitchell, they’ll be fine. If not, they’ll continue to falter at the worst possible times.

  25. Pack it up Josh. The Stamps are by far the best team in the CFL and have been for a decade. You’d have to be a clown to argue otherwise. If they playoffs were like the NFL, or NBA, or MLB, and playoff series were decided in 3, 5 or 7 games, the Stamps would hold 10 championships, probably in a row. It does make Edmonton’s run – what, 40 years ago, pretty amazing, but the fact that no team has repeated in a decade?, shows that the best of 1 doesn’t favour the best team, which is a shame, when teams with losing records are “champions”. I could honestly see a best of three Cup. Cut back the season to 16 games. But that will NEVER happen because of the revenue that would be lost – unless the two teams in the final split the money to everyone for 2 of the 3 games. Oh well, the best of 1 gives Rider fans something to talk about since they are the least likely team (statistically, over the history of the league, to make it that far).

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