Potential Duron Carter discipline about season-long antics, not just fight

If Duron Carter is punished by the Riders, his involvement in a practice fight won’t be the only reason.

Discipline could include being fined by the organization as stated in a standard CFL player contract.

The player agrees that should he at any time or times, or in any manner, fail to comply with the covenants or agreements on his part herein contained, the club shall have the right for so long as he continues to fail to so comply, to suspend or discipline him. Further, should the player at any time conduct himself in such manner, whether on or off the field so as to endanger or prejudice the interests of the club, or fails to use his best effort to attain and maintain first class physical condition, excepting injuries or illnesses, then the club shall have the right to discipline the player by the imposition of a fine. In the case of a fine being imposed, the club is authorized to deduct the amount of such a fine from any salary due or to become due to the player under the provisions of the contract. In the event that the player disputes the exercise of the right granted in the within paragraph, the player may submit such dispute to arbitration in accordance with the arbitration system contained in the collective agreement.

Sources say Carter has been grinding on the Riders offensive coaching staff for most of the season, similar to what played out in Montreal that ultimately led to the enigmatic playmaker being released by the Alouettes. By nature, the 25-year-old brings a lot of energy but he can be argumentative, loud, obnoxious, disregard rules and be combative as the melee proved. It should be said, however, that a coach played a role in provoking the bout.

Carter’s toughness was questioned – via sources – by a coach and that led to the hockey-style fight with helmets off. Fellow receiver Bakari Grant and offensive lineman Derek Dennis spoke up and did not want the teammates to come to blows. That coach kicked both of them off the field because he felt they were undermining him in front of the team.

During Saskatchewan’s practice Tuesday, Carter and Grant took reps with the second offensive unit. Meanwhile, Dennis, the CFL’s reigning Most Outstanding Lineman, flew home to recuperate from injury there.

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Justin Dunk was a five-year starter at quarterback for the University of Guelph. He covers the league for Sportsnet and 3DownNation.
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76 Comments on Potential Duron Carter discipline about season-long antics, not just fight

  1. Sources say . . . the biggest cop out in sports reporting. Meaning Dunk, you’re mom said this, so it must be true. Nothing to write about in Eastern Canada? Frig this gets old quick. Good thing 3DN has the Riders, or your website would be void and dull.

    • I don’t get you Riders fans who constantly rag on Dunk/3DN. Everything Dunk has said in the past has ultimately proven to be true. I’m sure this will be the case as well.

      • Still waiting for the evidence that the Riders worked out Manziel.

      • No even close, but thanks for coming out. Don’t get you CFL fans and your obsession for all things Riders.

        • Get the blinders off already Ladd law hahahahaha

          • Prove him wrong Stamps. How many articles have been written about this? 8 or 9 now?
            If I’m not mistaken you guys had a young Nik Lewis with some personal issues. No one cared then, why should anybody care about this now?
            Somehow this has garnered more attention than anything else in the CFL at the moment.

      • When has he reported anything that ruined out to be true about the Riders? I have yet to see anything

      • Tiger man // October 19, 2017 at 9:03 am //

        You don’t understand, Chris.

        They want cheerleaders, not honest reporting…

    • Story #9………………

    • You said it Ladd Law not sure who is more biased Duh Duh Dunk or that sorry excuse for a writer Drew Edwards could anyone be anymore biased to the west period? But there just like everyone else hate the Riders because there so popular, and take every cheap shot they can because that’s all they can do!!!

  2. And why should we believe you this time Dunk? You haven’t even given a source. See, that’s the problem with dumping a huge load of horse manure on the site one day. When you try to do it again the next day nobody believes you. Why would the Riders try this stunt right after a game where Carter picked up over 200 yards? And Cater has never shies away from contact on the field. He sticks his nose in there more than most receivers. Questioning his toughness also doesn’t make sense.

    And from the category of real news, from Rod Pedersen’s blog.:
    1 – CARTER GATE: It’s clear we’ll never know all the details surrounding Monday’s Rider practice fight between Duron Carter and Sam Williams. That’s fine because it’s “internal” but the team wants it made clear that Duron is NOT the bad guy in all this. There have been several reports that Carter has rubbed some of his teammates the wrong way but, hey, I know there were players on the Regina Pats who didn’t care for Jordan Eberle back in the day. Meh. You can’t please everybody.
    2 – MORE ON CARTER: If you go by the adage, “Judge people by the way they treat you” (which I do), then I have nothing but great things to say about Duron Carter. It’s clear by watching him play that he’s just out there having a blast. He’s never been in trouble away from the field – in fact he’s sensational in the community – so there’s a lot here that simply doesn’t add up. To this point he’s been a tremendous addition to the football club.
    3 – STILL MORE: TSN and Sportsnet have both reported that Monday’s fight was either “encouraged” or “orchestrated” by the Rider coaching staff. I find that hard to believe and saw no evidence of it And, frankly, if that were the case, then why not wait until Tuesday’s closed practice where the tussle could’ve been staged behind locked gates? Again, a lot is not adding up.
    ——
    It adds up to sleaze journalism Rod, post-truth fake news. In the olden days people like Madani and Davis would have been fired for unethical conduct, or even just gross incompetence. Today if it’s sleazy it leads, and the truth value is irrelevant. Not only do these journalists not bother to fact check, they are well aware what they’re writing is just pure lies.

  3. No way!

  4. i don’t care about the fight in practice, and everyone knows what Duron is (fact is he’s talented by a distraction,.. and helps you win football games)

    That said, any coach that promoted this fight, and stopped others from breaking it up needs to be disciplined and fired. That is completely unacceptable action from a person in a position of authority.

    • My guess is that Williams interfered in the QB/WR meeting, Carter told him off, a coach said something to Duron like “If you’re such a tough guy, come over here and say that” and/or he told Williams to not take Carter’s crap and off they went.

      Pedersen makes it sound like Brad Pitt directing Fight Club by asking why they didn’t want until the next day. I doubt it was anything like that. Probably a spontaneous thing. But Carter thought he would get cut over it, tweeted accordingly, then back-pedaled when he found out he wouldn’t be. Because his own explanation for his tweet makes no sense.

      • Don Sutherland // October 18, 2017 at 2:35 pm //

        All this talk of Carter and his toughness brings to mind the fact he has on occasion played at the corner on D. How many other receivers are doing this. I’ve lost track, let’s count, there’s hmmmmm. NONE.
        Change the subject to something else. 6

        • Honestly, anyone questioning Carter’s toughness is a tool.

          We’ve talked about the bump on Campbell. But remember the wicked shot he took just BEFORE that? That’ll rattle some teeth. Jumped right up.

          If someone questioned his toughness, it was because he thought he could get under his skin. If that guy truly thought Carter’s soft then he doesn’t have a clue or hasn’t been around very long.

  5. I look at 3downnation because reporters like Dunk have actual experience and insite. Most of the time. He well knows fights happen in football practices. This kind of reporting might drive traffic to your site in the short term but in the long term it damages everyone involved. If you keep this up you will eventually be dismissed as a troll who has nothing to contribute.

  6. LOL. Still scratching and clawing eh Stunk? Nothing is going to happen so drop it.

  7. Please guys… Stop writing about this! Is there really no new news? Anywhere in the CFL right now? What about the other 8 teams? So we have now 9 stories about this specific event for the past 48 hours? This is beyond blown up now. No wonder most of the readers are starting to question this site now for its news. Nothing but allegations with no sources. Do you guys sit in the same room and just randomly make these stories up? It’s getting ridiculous.

  8. Marc Lebut // October 18, 2017 at 11:51 am //

    Sad for the Riders fans, but Ducon Rarter will always be a distraction, a locker room poison, and totally useless when his team will need him the most.

    There is no worse teammate than Ducon Rarter and his cousin Kunnery Stufford.

    • The only thing that is sad Marc, are these stories. There have been far worse people that came into this league… Much, much worse than Duron(That’s right, his name is Duron Carter. Thought you should know). I’ve met the guy in person, Ever since he came to Regina, he’s been absolutely unreal with this fanbase. You want to keep this fanbase happy, bring in more guys like this. He works with Charities and Brings smiles to sick kids faces. Not only that, he has never denied people of autographs or pictures. Unlike a certain Darian Durant. This guys is not a monster that everyone makes him out to be. Enjoy you time with Kavis Marc.

  9. 3dow…I mean TMZ now. Well…. Actually. TMZ has either pictures or videos as proof.

  10. I’m sick about hearing “the same old, same old…..”. Let’s talk FOOTBALL! That’s why I come to this site, but my patience is wearing thin. 8 stories about the same! Ridiculous!

  11. While I am normally inclined to believe Dunn on the big picture stuff I have a problem on this one. Both Rod Pedersen and fans that I know that were at the practice and saw the fight disagree about the coach involvement. Say it was no different than any other fight that happens at football practices. I think a source has embellished a little on this.

  12. For those whining about Dunk not providing a source, as a journalist he’s not allowed to name a source unless authorized. However, if called upon by the courts in a case of libel, he must produce one. So it’s his job to find sources and protect them, but prove in court they are real or he goes to jail. Unlike the whiners commenting here, Dunks career depends on him adhering to that code. Oh, and as for Rod Peterson, he’s a paid commentator for the Riders and not bound by the same journalistic restrictions. He can say whatever he wants.

    • THANK YOU.

    • Like this story or any other will ever get to court. Knowing that, Dunk cna say what he wants and make shit up to get clicks. TMZ is right, and Dunk is a master at stirring the pot, despite it being empty.

    • Actually Rod is paid by the radio station and IS a reporter. Get some facts straight before you come with more Dunk-like fake stuff.

    • He is allowed to name sources, he chooses not to, probably because he doesn’t have any. And Rod is not paid by the Riders he works for a radio station.

      • rider rooter // October 18, 2017 at 1:40 pm //

        I have a question, I thought Rod Peterson was paid by the Riders. In the spring Charm Cartier was let go I was under the impression the Riders did this

  13. riderontheisland // October 18, 2017 at 11:59 am //

    Hey everyone let’s beat a dead cat and see how many people will respond to garbage that isn’t true!!!
    I find that most of my comments this week are just comments suggesting that I will not read this or any other fabricated articles. Time to go somewhere else.

  14. It’s not at all unlikely that Carter would be on the coaches’ cases for not getting the ball enough & that it would spring to the forefront, as mentioned, by Carter being more elated over his big outing than concerned about the Rider loss. Whenever Carter makes a big play he walks over to the stands nodding his head & posturing – look at me. That wears on everybody? No kidding. For the Rider crowd who thinks this is completely counter to who Carter is, give your heads a shake. That’s who he is. The reason Jones can’t come out & say something is he has a problem. Suspend Carter for a game for a fight that was “no big deal” & there’s obviously something more. Don’t do anything & risk undermining his offensive coaches. It will be interesting to see what happens. My guess is he tries to talk his coaches into giving Carter one more chance & lays the law down to Carter telling him one more & he’s down the road. But for those who think there’s nothing there, who’s buying that? Jones is walking a tight wire here. Carter is likely one & done or some coaches won’t be back next year. This story isn’t going away.

    • Well idiot, name a big time player in any sport that doesn’t celebrate a good play. It’s common and to single out Carter is just frigging weak.

    • riderontheisland // October 18, 2017 at 12:28 pm //

      grasping you are. Now take your head out of your butt and watch any football game where you will see 90% of all receivers having the biggest egos and are always open and complaining about it. Not saying I like it, but it’s just the way it is and when you listen to a player talk you don’t even have to know who they are to know they are a receiver. Another Mr. know-it-all who knows nothing at all cause Carter isn’t going anywhere.

    • Hey Idiot, what about Manny out in BC or Bowman in EDM? Big egos and have been vocal on their respective teams… and not an eyelash is batted.

  15. Bye riderontheisland- don’t let door hit you on the way out! Go somewhere where only good things are said about the Roughies! I’m sure Duron is just being misunderstood again!!!!!

    • riderontheisland // October 18, 2017 at 12:38 pm //

      morons will be morons and this will disappear just like your so called football knowledge. Enjoy grazing with the rest of the sheep.

  16. greenonions // October 18, 2017 at 12:05 pm //

    What’s keeping you islandrider? See ya.

  17. Dirtybird… while you can question if Pedersen is telling the truth the fact remains other fans that I know that were there actually witnessed the fight and are distributing this anonymous source. That is why I am inclined to believe him. This was something that blew up quickly and spontaneously. And it was Holley that broke up the fight. Not grant

  18. Oh god the lack of intelligence in this thread, your comments are brain numbing people. Dunk is usually spot on with his stories, sources are reliable. The reason a source wasn’t named is probably because they’re inside the organization and do not want to lose their job. Give your head a shake riders fans.

    • Yeah, just like his reporting of the Riders working out Manziel … which turned out to be totally false.

  19. I take what Johnson & Pederson say with a grain of salt. I did read Vanstone’s article & he’s a diehard Rider guy. He takes a more nuanced stance. All Jones has said has raised more questions. As for Dunk’s source, it could well be from inside the locker room – who knows? Pederson’s job is to toe the party line. Fans & Pederson being at practice means little because they don’t know what’s going on in the locker room. At this point it’s all speculation but if Carter is suspended for this one game, which they likely lose with or without him, that says a lot. We’ll see. More to come I’m sure.

    • Ok, so you don’t want to believe the people who were actually there and witnessed it, and you only want to believe the people who weren’t there and are reporting rumours from unnamed sources. Let’s put that aside for now and just look at the logic. Dunk tells us that this had something to do with a coach challenging Carter because of his lack of toughness. Lack of toughness?? When have you ever seen Carter shy away from a hit? I can’t think of any, and I can think of plenty where he stuck his head in and invited contact. In fact he took an unnecessary roughness penalty early in the Ottawa game for dishing out a hit on a defender after he’d made a catch. This is a guy who also willing plays defence and gets involved in a lot more contact that way. This whole thing reeks of being a total lie, and this is just another example. Also, Carter picked up 200+ yards in that game against Ottawa. Why on earth would the coaches pick now to discipline him? He did good, VERY good, and he came up bit after Roosevelt when out. This is not time the coaches would choose to discipline him. It IS the time that someone who was trying to tear him down and the Riders down might try a fake news stunt like this, however.

    • Btw, Petersen does lean towards the Riders, but he does fairly report the news as well, and he doesn’t lie. Arash Madani lies, and Darrell Davis lies.

  20. Carter a Looney tune and hot head just like his old man was keep him in ssk and let Jones put up with his bs

  21. The only people who listen to Rod Peterson are Roughie fans too delusional to listen to the truth. Probably watch Fox for their news too!!!

  22. Sources Say “Jusitn Dunk May be fired from 3downnation” for fabricating stories based on rumours and not actually checking the facts before reporting.

  23. Entire story is a complete load of shite, Derek Dennis wasn’t even at practice, bad back.

  24. Way it is // October 18, 2017 at 1:05 pm //

    Funny how stories that aren’t true keep following Carter around!!!!

  25. Anonymous // October 18, 2017 at 1:29 pm //

    Unfortunately THE Rider team is battling Media here.
    Jones would be wise to close doors to open practise.
    For the rest of the season and not let media be a factor in their preparations.I wonder what kind of info has been tipped off to other teams etc.

  26. greenrider89 // October 18, 2017 at 1:41 pm //

    Hey, green and white fans. Let the Spin Doctor keep spinning the stories. The Riders have a game to play Friday night, and my top dollar says Carter is in the starting lineup. In fact, this happening (for what it’s worth) may have lit a torch on the entire team to bring out whatever bad feelings there were after the last-second loss to Ottawa. Let the “real” games begin, starting Friday night. Go, Green and White!!! Go, Duron Carter!!!

  27. Yawn! Fake news!

  28. Prove me wrong // October 18, 2017 at 2:14 pm //

    Man, 3DN HAS to keep putting out these two-bit articles about Gangrene… Just getting to read the absolute bitter statements by rider fans here is GOLD Gerry…GOLD!!!! But I guess when its the only game in a one show province…

    • *JERRY

    • RJ Johnson Jr // October 18, 2017 at 4:38 pm //

      Well, they same can be said for ALL the western teams/provinces. I don’t think ya exactely can call the Jets, Oilers or Canucks contenders. And oh yea, the Flames too, if they’re still in Calgary.

      • Prove Me Wrong // October 18, 2017 at 8:42 pm //

        As opposed to what in saskabush… one “pro” (except for the way the act) and gophers… Yup, lots to brag about there.

  29. How does Dunk know who took second team reps as the practise was closed to media and the public.

  30. RJ Johnson Jr // October 18, 2017 at 4:37 pm //

    Hey Dunkeroo, looks like they’re punishing Carter by playing him both ways. Ya should read the news and catch up on things.

  31. Suspended to cut to playing both ways on Friday night.

    Better check your sources Dunk…..and your little buddy Madani too.

  32. BigRedMachine // October 18, 2017 at 7:04 pm //

    3downnation is like porn. I convince myself I’m here for the articles but I secretly enjoy watching opposing fan bases get their collective panties in a knot….

  33. What complete rubbish if you can’t cite any plausible sources.

    You dudes are being played by the Riders like a cheap fiddle.

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