Lions tried to claim Riders practice roster Canadian OL

B.C. was looking to flip the script and get a player back Saskatchewan took from them.

The Lions put in a claim for Canadian offensive lineman Dillon Guy, who was on the Riders practice roster at the time. He initially made his way from the Left coast to Regina the same way, but elected to stay with Saskatchewan because he likes it there and wanted to stay loyal to the team.

After training camp in 2016, B.C. offered defensive lineman Ese Mrabure and Guy practice roster spots, but the two players declined and the Riders inked them to active roster contracts.

Guy spent the entire 2016 slate on Saskatchewan’s injured list, allowing him time to make sure his knee was fully recovered. This season the 26-year-old spent the first four games on the injured list and he was moved to the practice roster before the Riders victory against Toronto in Week 6.

The Lions originally selected Guy in the fourth round, 30th overall in the 2016 CFL draft.

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101 Comments on Lions tried to claim Riders practice roster Canadian OL

  1. It’s not clear to me what you’re saying. Did they “claim” him through the waiver process, after he was released from the active roster but before he was added to the PR, or did they approach him while he was on the PR and essentially a FA? If they claimed him he wouldn’t have had a say in the matter, but I believe the Riders would have had the option to recall him and put him on the 46. If they approached him on the PR then it’s his right to say yes or no.

  2. CFL needs to revamp the PR spots so teams can keep draft picks without risking them doing exactly this.

    • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 12:43 pm //

      Exactly Chris. this is what I said when Sask snakiny claimed Zver earlier this year. You should see the response by rider fans.

    • You keep them by keeping them on the 46. If they’re not good enough to make your 46 then they should probably have the right to go somewhere else where they’re more highly valued and can earn a full salary. This is a job for these players as well, remember.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 1:08 pm //

        You dance with the person that brought you!!!
        The lions drafted this guy and he signed a contract knowing nothing was guaranteed. If the lions see fit they should have the right to make this player a developmental player. It’s called paying your dues. Embrace it and enjoy the experience. It’s only making you a better player.
        I know an import is a different situation from a drafted Canadian but Kamar Jorden hung around the practice roster on and off for 2-3 years before earning a regular spot. Now he is on the verge of being the premier receiver in the. I’m sure he wouldn’t change the situation for anythng

        • Unless you’re paying them a full salary, then they should have no obligation to stay anywhere. This isn’t indentured service.

        • George Porge // August 8, 2017 at 6:02 pm //

          “The lions drafted this guy and he signed a contract knowing nothing was guaranteed.”

          The lions drafted this guy and they also signed a contract knowing nothing was guaranteed.

          Two-way streets are a bitch, I know, but Wally can’t exactly complain about a player not honouring a contract that the Lions themselves decided to cancel.

      • If they were more highly valued, why were they not drafted by that team. Suddenly after TC they became more valuable to another team?

        The team that drafted them should have the opportunity to develop them. Not ALL guys getting drafted are pro ready.

        • George Porge // August 8, 2017 at 8:38 pm //

          “If they were more highly valued, why were they not drafted by that team.”

          Well, see, there’s this thing about drafts – people have to take their turns and prioritize. Perhaps the other team “would” have drafted him if the Lions hadn’t done so first.

          “Suddenly after TC they became more valuable to another team?”

          Well, perhaps. Especially if that player shows more promise in training camp or during the pre-season than what their NCAA or USport stats suggest, yeah. Funny thing – the more you see of a player, the more accurately you can judge a player’s ability.

          “The team that drafted them should have the opportunity to develop them. Not ALL guys getting drafted are pro ready.”

          PR players that are truly not pro-ready are rarely picked off of other teams’ practice roster. If a team picks up a PR player and then adds that player to its full roster, then that team obviously thinks that the player is pro-ready. It isn’t good for players OR the league to have teams leave capable players sitting on the PR.

  3. IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 12:41 pm //

    I don’t fully believe this story. Jones is lining the pockets of these guys I have no doubt.
    Calling on Ambrosie to lead an investigation into this.
    Are the riders offering additional funds channeled through a different stream? Free housing maybe?

    • Lol Typical response from a typical troll.

      Nice try Lions. Not our fault we let heal up on IR and he choose to stay loyal to the Riders for doing so.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 1:45 pm //

        Rob E . do you really believe that?
        Why would a player stay there knowing the season is practically over in the competitive west? BC is a legit Grey Cup contender?
        If this is really the case it shows he has no competitive fire.
        Wake up and smell the cornbread!
        Actually I’m pretty sure you do. You are just in denial.
        Players only come to Sask for 2 reasons. Last chances or they value money over all else

        • C’mon horse…..see if your mom will unchain you from the basement and let you eat your crayons in the back yard today. It’s a nice day so fat, the sun will do you some good. Now keep in mind – -they are calling for a little rain around the supper hour so don get mad at mom when you have to go back inside. Understand – this is called weather and it happens. Chris Jones has nothing to do with it OK.

    • George Porge // August 8, 2017 at 6:06 pm //

      “Calling on Ambrosie to lead an investigation into this.”

      You really want an investigation into this kind of thing? Before you answer, you may want to recall something you mentioned yourself in another comment thread – some teams have a knack for having loyal players who willingly stay on their practice roster, sometimes for multiple seasons at a time.

      One of those teams is the Calgary Stampeders.

      Careful what you wish for, bud.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 12:43 pm //

        not sure I get your point. Are you suggesting Calgary is cheating too?
        Keep in mind Jones has stole multiple players from Prs

        • George Porge // August 10, 2017 at 8:23 am //

          “Are you suggesting Calgary is cheating too?”

          In the way that you are suggesting (ie, providing “off the books” incentives)? All I’m saying is anything is possible. You were bragging on another part of the thread that Calgary has had a knack for keeping great players (like Karmar Jorden) on the PR for multiple years and those players haven’t jumped ship.

          In this thread you are suggesting that Jones is “lining the pockets” of PR players to make them stay loyal to the Riders. You put the dots on the paper, I’m just connecting them for you.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 10, 2017 at 10:13 am //

            I see your perspective on this. There are some difference as I’ve explained already but here it is again.
            Players on Calgary’s roster often will learn well and thrive when given the chance to play. Look at all our 3rd and 4th stringers doing so well this year. Conversely look how Derek Dennis is doing in Sask compared to Calgary. Players also know playoff money and team success is an inevitability here. That alone makes Calgary a desired place to play. Is this true in Regina?
            Second Huffnagel has an impeccable record. There is no history of him cheating in this way and no reason not to trust him. Can we say that about Chris Jones??

          • George does have a point Horsie. A very, very valid point. You are putting the dots on the paper friend. You can sure talk a lot of hate, but can’t handle when the hate gets pointed your way. Kind of sad actually.

            And this playoff money you speak of.. Its been really not that much more significant than our Riders either. The past 10 years… 4 grey cup apperances a piece and 2 cups each. Maybe an extra playoff game or two… Not really substantially more.

            Here is another piece for you to think about. Remember circles are round. Time is cyclical. Its only a matter of time for you guys to literally fall of your high horse. Maybe you should think of that, before you start to constantly spew hate on others. What goes around, comes around.

    • Horse…..for crying out loud. Put away your Chris Jones voodoo doll and take your medication. It in no way affects your stumps – RELAX. If anybody needs investigated Bo will look into it for you.

    • riderontheisland // August 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm //

      Hey Troll you gotta swing hate at everything Riders and make crap up. If you actually have been following this story since last year and took your head out of your ass you would know the cost of living is a big difference. Probably a big reason he chooses to hang around seeing how PR doesn’t make enough to live comfortably.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:40 pm //

        If it just comes down to cost of living than no one would ever want to play for BC/ Toronto/Montreal..In fact Sask and Winnipeg would be the preferred destination for every one.

        • Actually if you saw the recent prices for houses and the cost of rent a month. We are right around Calgary and Edmonton on that scale. It would be no different than you guys.
          I’m surprised anyone can actually afford to live in Van/Tor/Mont. It’s unreal.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 5:16 pm //

            Fine. Than Calgary, Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg would be the only places players would play. Clearly this isn’t the case!
            A player sees Calgary as a place they will be able to learn and given a chance play extremely well. Look at how well the 3rd and 4th stringers on Calgary’s d-line have played!. PR players will stay here for that reason
            Sask doesn’t have that. Seems intuitive to me a player would jump at a chance to play in a better environment.
            I bet you he is being paid under the table more than the average starting Canadian O-lineman. Chris doesn’t care. It’s not his money!

          • Or Huffy is hiding something from the Public. Makes you wonder why players stay on the PR for that long? Kind of like that Lemar Durant character. The stable was full of receivers.. That seems fishy to me. I think there should be an investigation on this! AMBROSIE I’M CALLING YOU OUT! I DEMAND ACTION IMMEDIATELY! Lmao!!

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 6:06 pm //

            LOL
            RobE
            I see the point you are attempting to make. There are a few differences.
            First as I explained, players on Calgary’s roster often will learn well and thrive when given the chance to play. Look at all our 3rd and 4th stringers doing so well this year. Conversely look how Derek Dennis is doing in Sask compared to Calgary. Players also know playoff money and team success is an inevitability here. That alone makes Calgary a desired place to play. Is this true in Regina?
            Second Huffnagel has an impeccable record. There is no history of him cheating in this way and no reason not to trust him. Can we say that about Chris Jones??

          • George Porge // August 10, 2017 at 8:25 am //

            “AMBROSIE I’M CALLING YOU OUT! I DEMAND ACTION IMMEDIATELY! Lmao!!”

            You’re barking up the wrong tree, RobE. Roster violations are Bo Levi Mitchell’s beat.

          • Sorry Horsie.. My bad. Huffy can’t do not wrong ever. He is one of the biggest Saints out there… Says no one ever.

            By the way.. I never give up. Its more of a delay. I actually have life past this website.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 10, 2017 at 2:27 pm //

            RobE!
            Welcome back
            Unfortunately you’ve lost credibility with your last statement.
            Previously you wisely argued against the “unwritten code” and moral lapse Jones has in breaking it. You stated this conspiracy created by the GMs in fact undermines the agreement of the CBA. Collusion is the legal term you used. The law is the law and that is all that matters.!
            Now you’re saying John Huffganel, with no previous record and no indication or serious accusations of any wrong doing should come under investigation. You are basing this purely on conjecture and you’re personal feelings.
            You preached the importance and virtue of the law when it was in favor of the riders. When the tide turns you are willing to completely ignore our judicial system and one of the pillars of our Constitution and democracy.

          • Horsie, horsie, horsie.
            I was just pulling a you man. Blindly making accusations with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Except mine was jokingly.
            Yours obviously is filled with massive hate for some odd reason. Its like Chris Jones stole your gf/wife/sister which it could be, then he kicked you in the nuts and got you fired from your job. It would be the only reason you have so much hate towards a single person. Its like he somehow ruined your life.
            I’m still all for the.. “if the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit.” Until you have some proof bud, you points are moot.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 10, 2017 at 3:25 pm //

            Rob Rob Rob
            I never argued what you argued regarding the law overruling all. I said pragmatic though and principals are sometimes more important than the law.
            In the case of Jones being investigated these principals/ pragmatic reasoning comes into play. The fact he’s cheated in the past (several times) is grounds to look into Guy’s curious comments the other day.
            When you’ve cheated once, twice,etc etc…there is a inevitable probability you do it again.

            FYI there no shame in losing a girlfriend to someone as handsome as Jones

          • I dunno man the law is the law. That’s it. The fact that Huffy does or doesn’t do illegal stuff has yet to be seen. But the way you are talking about the old boys club and their “unwritten rules” it sure seems to be more than what the public has access to. Which seems pretty shady if you ask me. Doing stuff behind closed doors doesn’t make it right. If you want to talk about morals.. wishing bad things on a person and his family… You are in the same boat as him then.

            How was Guys comments worth a look. He stated the Rider’s looked after him while he was hurt and payed out a contract that B.C. didn’t keep their word on. He is staying loyal. Wally had the option to keep him, but chose not to. What’s to debate on this?
            What does any of this have to do with you… At all? Absolutely nothing.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 10, 2017 at 5:35 pm //

            When did I wish bad things on a person and his family???

          • I’m pretty sure there was a little DV article that you said something about Chris Jones and his daughters. 😉 Try and play dumb if you want sir, but I called you out at the time for wishing bad on them.

          • Hey Rob….his gf/wife/sister is one person

          • Lol! Thats why I threw the /sister on there. You never know. Especially with horsie haha

        • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 10:05 pm //

          I see you’ve given up. I win again!!!!!
          Red over green as always

  4. Or the fact.. They could have actually believed in the kid. Letting him collect a full check on IR, other than making peanuts on the PR. Just saying if they wanted him that Badly, they could have done the same. Not our fault they are being cheap in BC town. Maybe the opportunity WE presented him was that much better than BC? Maybe you should open your mind, instead of thinking we cheated somehow. Maybe you should wake up and smell the cow crap? Actually I’m pretty sure you do that already, it would explain the crap you spew after you are done huffing. Just throwing it out there.

    • Well said RobE!

    • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 2:21 pm //

      Rob
      Exactly why BC didn’t put Guy on IR last year isn’t known and why Chris Jones did this year isn’t really known either.

      Every team uses the IR for things other than injured players. BC is no different. To call Wally cheap isn’t fair. Wally just though is IR spots could be better used (and really who can argue with the winningest coach in CFL history). Teams generally respect the PR and don’t step on other teams toes. Expect of course you know who! Chris Jones makes a mockery of the underwritten code than goes around falsely accusing his peers of spying and “double moves” . He is a cheat, a menace and has a history-
      He has practiced with twice the personnel allowed. He colluded with Manzeil by speaking to his publicist, He tried to hold work outs where he wasn’t allowed and tried to sign a JR players that weren’t his. What more do you need? Does he actually have to kidnap another teams player and force him to play for the rider before you will see how unscrupulous he is?

    • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 12:45 pm //

      Do you not respect the institution of the CFL draft? should teams be allowed to pillage other teams draft picks just because a team already has a strong lineup and wants their picks to develop?

      • George Porge // August 10, 2017 at 8:28 am //

        “Do you not respect the institution of the CFL draft?”

        Do you not respect the institution of the CFL rulebook?

        “should teams be allowed to pillage other teams draft picks just because a team already has a strong lineup and wants their picks to develop?”

        If the team decides to put their draft pick on the shelf – yes – other teams should be able to raid that shelf of players so that we get to see them play and so that the league remains as competitive as possible (hint – this last part is the only reason why drafts exist in the first place).

        • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 10, 2017 at 10:23 am //

          George Porge
          You just contradicted yourself:
          ” yes – other teams should be able to raid that shelf of players so that we get to see them play and so that the league remains as competitive as possible (hint – this last part is the only reason why drafts exist in the first place).”
          If the drafts exist to help create competition doesn’t the fact teams can pillage PR’s undermine the purpose of the draft?

          • George Porge // August 10, 2017 at 2:55 pm //

            “If the drafts exist to help create competition doesn’t the fact teams can pillage PR’s undermine the purpose of the draft?”

            No, it doesn’t. The draft exists to provide teams with an exclusive opportunity to provide a roster spot to players they believe will make an impact on the team. It does not exist so that teams can stack up on talented players and deny other teams the opportunity to improve by signing those players. Allowing teams to stash impact players on the PR without offering a full roster spot is the opposite of keeping the league competitive.

            Drafting a player gives a team an exclusive window to offer a player a full contract. It does not give the team exclusive rights to that player in perpetuity. This is where your logic is failing, Horse.

          • George you are my hero. You couldn’t say it any better.

        • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 10, 2017 at 4:20 pm //

          Having a practice roster to develop players isn’t creating competition? I would argue is does. It makes young players better

  5. eogweotr // August 8, 2017 at 3:51 pm //

    Again, Wally Buono gets a free pass. First time, he took a chance at not putting Dillon Guy on the Active Roster and lost the gamble. Now in Part 2, Buono tries to reacquire the player basically admitting he initially f’ed up.

    • EgoWeOTR, I don’t know about Wally f.ing up. The situation has changed and he could now use him. But he’d have to go on the PR for a while to get up to speed. If he could. Makes sense to try to bring back a guy who is part way up to speed because he’s been in BC before, knows the system and they know him. Good for the kid to choose to be loyal and stay in Sask. They treated him better it sounds. Even if it wasn’t on the up and up. How much respect would the team have for him if he jumped ship back to BC? He didn’t do anything wrong back when Wonderful Jones plucked him. He declined to sign a PR agreement because he had a better offer. Did Wonderful Jones cheat by making contact with him to let him know that Sask would give him a better deal? We don’t know but we can best guess that one. He wasn’t a free agent for more than a couple hours I understand. Just long enough to fly out to Regina and sign.

      • Rick you need learn the whole process of the active roster and PR. The contract that was offered was for the Active Roster. When Wally offered him that PR spot, he literally tore up that first contract by doing so. Once he does that, he’s on Waivers. If he doesn’t want to be on the PR, he has a choice to sign with whichever team he chooses. It was his Agent that told him not to take the offer and test the market. Again “Wonderful Jones” or whatever you want to call him, actually played by the rules. It was between his agent and gm’s. Again, some of you guys need to read a bit before you start posting.

        Also if the situation changed, that’s on Wally. He could have kept him on the original Active Roster contract and put him on IR. But he chose not too. So yes Wally in theory did F up.

    • Well said eogweotr.

      And people wonder why I get a little worked up… Look at the crap horsie puts on his posts. The last time I checked.. this wasn’t a hate speech page. Its actually an article that Wally f’ed up on letting Guy go and he tried to get him back, but Guy showed loyalty to the team that looked after him. It isn’t about Chris Jones cheating or Whatever your little mind comes up with. You gotta lay off the horse crap huffing horsie. Its really starting to show your bad side.

      Also to discredit some of your crap. When talking about colluding.. This whole unwritten code contradicts that whole comment all together. The fact that it’s an “unwritten code” makes it colluding right there. Put whatever spin you want on it. Its still colluding…

      Also to debunk your double moves comment, its kind of funny how he makes that comment, then the commish changes it right after.. I wonder if there was some method to his maddness? quite possibly 😉
      Any ways its always fun.
      I’m done feeding you the attention you apparently need to stay relevant or feel important. Whichever it is.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 5:12 pm //

        Wally didn’t f’up. Chris Jones cheated!
        Wally was just trying to claim back what was taken from him. The issue here isn’t the greatest coach in CFL history screwing up . It’s Chris Jones not respecting other teams property

        • How did he cheat?
          He is not BC’s property if he was let go from his active roster contract and offered a PR spot. All well within the rules. Maybe you should look into them, you seem to be confused by all of this.
          Also is Wally mad because he isn’t colluding like the rest of them? on that “unwritten rule”? That does not make any sense horsie.

          Again this is not an “I hate Chris Jones article” Please make a separate forum or FB page for that away from 3Down. Thanks.
          If you want to have a civil conversation regarding the CFL and all its glory. I’m here for you 🙂

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 5:43 pm //

            I’m well aware of the rules RobE. When I say he cheated I meant in a moral sense (although he has cheated on other things we all know).

          • George Porge // August 8, 2017 at 5:59 pm //

            “When I say he cheated I meant in a moral sense”

            Either a coach or GM is acting within the bounds of the rulebook, or he is not. There’s no “moral” rule, just the written rule. Which is laid out in black and white.

            There are two ways Wally could have prevented the player from leaving:

            1) Give the player and actual, bona fide, full-time job (a spot on the active roster).

            2) Provide incentives (such as more practice reps or better pay) to practice roster players so that they remain loyal to the team.

            If a coach or GM doesn’t value their players enough to do either of the above, they should have no qualms about losing said player.

          • So morally the old boys club and their “unwritten rules”(aka colluding)isn’t cheating? Seems to me you are backwards my friend.
            Again if Wally wanted Guy that much, he would have put him on the IR and kept him there until he was healed up fully. Obviously that wasn’t his priority, and decided this season, he wants him again. Wally F’d up. Plain and simple. There isn’t anything else to this story. Its open and shut.

            Almost all of those cheating incidents you are informing us of are from last season.. where does that have any relevance to this season?
            Again this isn’t a place for hate. Time for you to create a FB page. And you can talk about how much you hate him until you are blue in the face.
            I’m actually trying to take the high road and be polite, even though I’m not exactly sure why I bother.

          • Well said George.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 1:33 pm //

            Believe me RobE
            As a prophet of Chris Jones I wouldn’t expect you to understand “moral codes and conduct”

          • You didn’t answer my question though.. Here let me break this down for you. Is colluding right or wrong? How about that? Pretty easy question. That “unwritten code” you keep talking about is a form of colluding.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 2:31 pm //

            In a pure legal sense you could probably argue this is colluding yes.
            Unfortunately, as wonderful as the law is and as much as you may be a proponent of the worker and CBA’s sometimes unfair consequences are created. This is an example of that. That is why principals and moral stances/codes are existentially so important and sometimes more sacred than the rule of law.
            Is a penniless man really a thief for stealing bread and medicine for his children?
            Is the shy,meek child a thug and DV offender when he finally gains confidence and clobbers his bully?
            Should Tiger Woods be charges with a DUI for accidentally taking a wrong combo of medication? A court in Florida agreed with me today.

          • I’ll just stop you there horsie. Trying to use the whole poor man stealing bread response is not even close to the same in this situation. You’re making mountain out of a mole hill here. The situations you pointed out.. Yes morally you have to feel for them at that point. But at the same time, The law is the law. If its written and enforced. It doesn’t matter the reasoning behind it. They get caught, there is still going to be consequences to be paid. So yes, the old boys colluding(Wally, Huff, Popp) is in fact a form of cheating the system. Aka your “unwritten code”. You are defending a form of cheating Horsie. The blood is on your hands too pal.

            For my closing statement on this one, The Riders did nothing wrong. Wally wanted something back that he was willing to throw away on the PR because he didn’t value him like other clubs.

            Also If it was an average joe, anyone other than tiger woods. They would have been charged to the max on the DUI. He got off scott free because of his social status.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:07 pm //

            RobE
            You are allowing emotion into it. There is no difference between this and my examples that tug at heart strings.
            RobE. You strike me as a guy who does everything by what the book tells you to do and never uses pragmatic thought. You would make a great bureaucrat.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:17 pm //

            The Riders did nothing wrong. Wally wanted something back that he was willing to throw away on the PR because he didn’t value him like other clubs.

            Not “OTHER” clubs RobE…. ONE club… yours

          • Actually I’m not letting emotion dictate this at all. If I did. I would feel bad for the sob examples you were giving me on how this is the same as a man stealing food for his kid(s). But again not the same in this instance. He’s stealing illegally, this case was all well within the rules. Nice try though 😉

            I do many things illegally actually. Like speed in my vehicle, use a little of the devils lettuce, plus many others.. I’m far from being a saint. In this situation, I’m pointing out you are wrong for calling Jones a cheater. He has done nothing wrong at all. And you have no grounds. Case closed sir

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 4:36 pm //

            Big difference in the situations

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 4:59 pm //

            So you are conceding the argument?

          • I was going to ask you the same Horsie.. considering you have absolutely no grounds whatsoever to validate your statements. Why should I even waste my breath on this any more?
            This story is open and shut.

          • George Porge // August 10, 2017 at 2:58 pm //

            “In a pure legal sense you could probably argue this is colluding yes.”

            In a “pure legal sense” in this case means “according to the rulebook”. So the “pure legal sense” is the only sense that actually matters, Horse. That “unwritten rule” you hold so dear? It’s contrary to the rulebook. It is also the opposite of moral (collusion is *never* ethical, in any sense).

        • Lochtess54 // August 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm //

          Haha. You’re such a dipsh;t, Horsie.

          Clearly Chris Jones couldn’t have cheated here because he was busy launching nukes from North Korea.

          Wait, that was someone else? Chris Jones didn’t create juvenile diabetes either? I don’t know if Horsie can live in a world where Jones isn’t to blame for everything…

          • LMAO!!!! Well said Lochtess54. You are my hero.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 8, 2017 at 5:48 pm //

            Don’t be ridiculous.
            Although there are some similarities between Jones and Kim Jong Un. Both are chubby, stubby and wear the same thing every day.

          • You think Chris Jones has nuclear weapons now?

          • Horsie, the same could be said about Lamar Durant and staying on your practice roster for a couple of years. Why would a person willing to stay on a roster that had so much depth at receiver? Something about that smells fishy eh? Your logic man. It makes no sense.

        • Holy horse sh#t. As the article said – ” but elected to stay with Saskatchewan because he likes it there and wanted to stay loyal to the team” Case closed !!

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:14 pm //

            No case NOT closed. Why would he stay there when given the chance to win a cup? He must be getting some sort of incentive. It’s not like there is some prestige or guarantee of team success playing for the riders

          • Listen to yourself…seriously. Is it a conspiracy ??? He indicated that he wanted to stay. HOW can it be any more clear than that ??

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:33 pm //

            I’m not disputing that he wanted to stay. The question is why
            As a 25 year season ticket holder I want to know why. I want an inquiry.

          • Holy s#it. Why the hell have an inquiry if a guy states he wants to stay ??? There are dozens of reasons why a player may chose a team and as such he has nobody to answer to other than himself. As I said before…if there is some huge cover up I’m sure Bo is on the case

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:51 pm //

            Nope I don’t except that Yup. There is no rhyme or reason for him to want to stay in Sask. It doesn’t pass the smell test.

          • Maybe it’s something you are smelling (snorting) horse ?

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 12:55 pm //

        So you are saying Jones made the “double moves” comment and then the commish took action?

        • Nothing was getting done.. One comment was made. And boom there goes some rule changes. You sure can’t add very well. This is a 1 + 1 kind of thing. Just in case you don’t know. Its 2.

          • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 2:53 pm //

            First off. Cutting challenges from 2 to 1 isn’t really dealing with the issue of double moves. So no. Jones comment was irrelevant.
            Secondly , don’t rider fans constantly condemn BLM for his comments regarding Jones practices? and the ensuing fine? Isn’t this the same thing?

          • There was a rule change that happened right after the interview. Seems like something was up there.
            Again he never badmouthed Calgary, only said that he noticed that what they were running to get calls. Then said he would incorporate it in his schemes. Its more of a compliment than anything.
            BLM has been fined for statements that should have been handled internally or he called out the refs(another no no). Again you don’t know how to differentiate between this story and other non common stories.

          • George Porge // August 12, 2017 at 3:09 pm //

            The rule change timing definitely suggests that the Jones interview had something to do with it. The flagfest that happened in the SSK/CGY game, and the Eskimo game the later week surely also gave the new commish some food for thought.

            Jones comments, for his part, were right on the money. Coaches have to play within the bounds of the rules, and that includes using those rules to your advantage in every way possible (because if you don’t, and the coach across the field does, guess who’s probably going home with a W that day).

            Reducing the challenges to a single challenge per game was about the only thing that could be done at this point in the season. It isn’t actually a solution to the actual problem (the problem being that some of the rules have become impossible to enforce consistently), but it helps, at least, keep the games moving forward and addressing the main complaint coming from most fans.

            Hopefully the league looks back on Jones’ comments and reviews the rulebook a little more closely, with a bigger eye on the unintended consequences that have come out of some of the rule changes in the past couple of years. In my opinion, the game was better in 2012 and 2013 when we didn’t have the explosive offenses that we have now (thanks to defenders not really being able to be defenders anymore). If the easiest fix is to go back to the rulebook we had five years ago, I’d be all for that.

  6. footballnut // August 8, 2017 at 6:23 pm //

    lesson learned: do not give up on a ncaa d-1 starter too quick

  7. Now that we ae all done. I hope…Wally did not “F” up and he did not “give up on an NCAA Div-1 starter too quick” ly.

    There is such a thing in the CFL called a Salary Cap and we cannot, as much as we’d like, keep all the guys we draft. Let me say that slooooowly…Sal-ary cap. That is not being cheap, it is being economically wise. Now we have an injury situation and are looking for some added depth. Plain and simple. End to story. Wally will find the guy he needs.

    • BC Dave, nows not a time to have sour grapes. Wally could have kept him. IF he really, really wanted him. He would have cleared some money up. You can defend Wally all you want, but you are just going to beat around the fact that he let him go and went back after him this year, when he thought he was magically worth it all of the sudden. I think Wally learned his lesson. Don’t let go of a Canadian O-linemen that has huge upside.

      • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 12:02 pm //

        yeah I’m sure Wally “learned a lesson” . Perhaps it’s Chris Jones “learning a lesson” You can’t make great wine by simply picking grapes off the vine. You must crush the grapes, ferment bottle and store properly.

        • Maybe he did horsie… He did let a Canadian O-linemen that played for a div 1 college out of his hands. So hopefully he learned a lesson from all this.

  8. IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:30 pm //

    I’m sure Wally will humiliate Chris Jones again this week

  9. riderontheisland // August 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm //

    I gotta say Ima horses ass (aka Troll) is pretty entertaining. Unfortunately it’s mostly fiction and looking through his rose colored glasses (that also see red for Jones). You are the most 2 faced person I have ever seen. You can’t do this with a straight face.

    • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 3:53 pm //

      2 faced? Like the fictional villain?
      I’m flattered!

      Ok seriuosly. How an I 2 faced?

      • riderontheisland // August 9, 2017 at 5:20 pm //

        LOL, like you don’t know!!!! Everything is okay unless the Riders do it and nothing they do is okay until the Stumps do it. You and every reader here know exactly what I’m saying.

        • IMAN ICE HORSIE // August 9, 2017 at 6:20 pm //

          That is simply not the case riderontheisland. That is merely your perception as an agree Rider fan.
          I’ve called out the stamps many times before

  10. justforkicks // August 10, 2017 at 11:02 pm //

    All the while you have tied up horsey’s mouth with this article the RB’s took a hit, EE’s are #1 and if the Riders lose to BC the stumps will be in “turd” place.
    Watch who’s coming up behind youuuu!!

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