Argos’ Ricky Ray to miss four-to-six weeks

Toronto quarterback Ricky Ray has a separated AC joint in his right throwing shoulder and is expected to miss four-to-six weeks, according to TSN’s Dave Naylor.

The 38-year-old took a hit from Calgary Stampeders defensive lineman Michael Kashak and left Thursday’s game in the third quarter. It’s the third shoulder-related injury Ray has sustained in his career.

Canadian veteran offensive lineman Chris Van Zeyl says it will be “very hard to replace Ray.”

Under Marc Trestman, Ray was leading the league in passing yards (2,421) in the Argos’ pass-first offence.


47 Comments on Argos’ Ricky Ray to miss four-to-six weeks

  1. Hors E Power // August 4, 2017 at 3:53 pm //

    I think coombs could really help mitigate the next 4-6 weeks

  2. cvmurrieta // August 4, 2017 at 3:56 pm //

    It is now officially “Fasten-Your-Seatbelts” time for the Argos.

  3. Thanks Michael Kashak for your boneheaded tackle making the league a boring game without Ricky Ray.

    • Hors E Power // August 4, 2017 at 4:08 pm //

      Silly man

    • George Porge // August 4, 2017 at 6:44 pm //

      So what.. Are D linemen not allowed to sack quarterbacks now?

      It was a clean hit, but Ray instinctively put his arm out while he was falling. That’s what led to his injury.

  4. White Horse // August 4, 2017 at 4:05 pm //

    It was very risky putting all your eggs in R Ray basket this season considering his history and age.
    Today’s d-linemen are very skilled and deadly if you are hit from behind. Get well fast or sooner Ricky.

  5. Too much concern over Ricky Ray, he hasn’t been effective for the Argos. His game is drop back, do progressions, pass or turtle. He’s not mobile enough to escape pressure. So it’s pass or die. A mobile QB like Fajardo can open really open up the field of play, the defense must always worry about him running, and this also opens up gaps for running backs. Fajardo can pass, long ball, or short, and can do it on the run. He had a great record with the University of Nevada Wolfpack, and if he stays healthy the Argos should do much better with Fajardo than with ageing Ricky Ray. Another QB with the Argos, Dakota Prukop plays a similar game as Fajardo but is not as big, but passes better. Argos are in good shape with QB’s right now, that is the least of the team worries. Defense and special teams are a big concern.

  6. Ricky Ray is a complete liability , Trestman should have realized he was a liability , even TSN commentators kept saying ‘ will Ray survive the season ‘

    Obviously – you can’t temp fate !!

  7. Kashak, no one would have noticed had you used common sense and eased up on your horrific tackle; after all, Ricky Ray is a superstar in the league and deserves respect, not to be needlessly injured.Ricky Ray was creating a buzz, in the league across the nation, while your a nobody.

    • mr62cats // August 4, 2017 at 4:33 pm //

      Catman: I agree. This kind of stuff is what will make future QB’s and others think twice about being part of pro football. Especially in Canada where high schools are dropping football programs everywhere. There are plenty of other sports (not including hockey) that appeal to someone’s competitive spirit without having to have career-ending injuries inflicted by other players. Kashak still has to learn the hard way, that he could also be a victim. Tackling should be an art. Not a blood sport.

    • Red&White Forever // August 4, 2017 at 5:01 pm //

      Ease up? He’s the third stringer. If he “eases up” he doesn’t have a job anymore. Also, there was nothing “horrific” about that tackle. Ray didn’t hear/sense him coming from behind and tried to throw the ball just as Kashak arrived. Ray’s throwing arm was caught in a compromised position. If it was as “horrific” as you say, there would have been multiple flags for unnecessary roughness or illegal hit on a QB. How about blaming the o-line for not stopping the Stamps THIRD STRING d-lineman, or the coaches for not scheming better to protect the ONE thing that T.O. has in their favour, or the receivers for not running better patterns so Ray didn’t have to hold onto the ball so long? Football is a rough sport, maybe 38yo QB’s with a history of injury, a bad shoulder, no mobility, and are made of glass should retire instead of standing behind a porous offensive line for a bad team?

      • Old Man Al // August 4, 2017 at 8:38 pm //

        Thank you for the reality check !
        Toronto needs to not rely on one person , and it was a clean hit ……by an eager athlete…..give Kashak a break ……he was doing exactly what he’s been trained to do …..he can’t help it if notoriety was handed to him on a silver platter…….and I said before , a clean hit ……..and is Kashak still a nobody ?

  8. It’s too bad R.R. was on pace of setting records. 6 300 yards games in a row. Argos O line fails at the running game, but a Trestman offence is mostly pass orientated. O Line didn’t block and protect Ray in the pocket, and he was getting rocked. It was inevitable he was going to get injured. It’s usually Charlton Hughes who tries naming QB’s. Not an Argo fan, but Ricky Ray is good for the CFL. He might be 38, and doesn’t run, unless there’s an opening. But so did Cavillo, and he was a success under Trestman.

    • George Porge // August 4, 2017 at 6:49 pm //

      “But so did Cavillo, and he was a success under Trestman.”

      Unfortunately, Calvillo’s career ended in serious injury as well. I like Ricky Ray, but to be honest, I would have liked to see him hang up his cleats after last year. Pocket passers with little mobility and a history of getting injured aren’t going to last on any team in this league.

  9. I am surprised that Trestman didn’t know much about the CFL anymore, not realizing that young, tough and mobile QBs are ruling the roost, and while older drop back passers like Ray can make a team competitive at the edges, it takes a lot more talent at QB than just passing the ball. There’s only one Tom Brady and he has been blessed with the best coached and talented teams ever to play in the NFL. Even Tom Brady would have a lot of trouble in the CFL now because the position requires so much more mobility. Having Ray injured at this time is a blessing for the Argos, it gives a chance to guys like Fajardo and Prukop to demonstrate that their ages and mobility are the extra dimensions required in the league today.

    • mr62cats // August 4, 2017 at 5:00 pm //

      jimbobray: Oh darn. So Trestman doesn’t know much about the CFL anymore? And all along I thought he and Popp would help rescue the Blue Team from the basement of the CFL.
      You must be very knowledgeable about football to have deduced that Trestman is unqualified.
      Please make sure Michael Copeland knows about this. I am sure he will also glad to know that having Ray injured at this time is a “blessing”!

      • You gotta look on the bright side, brother. The youngsters get good experience and time will heal Ricky Ray. But him coming back at full throttle at age 38 and injury prone is a lot to expect. Really, Trestman expected injury prone Ricky Ray to lead the team all season, that was fantasy football, not CFL football. At least he had the good sense to keep Fajardo (at #2) and pick up Dakota Prukop as well as Jeff Matthews. Trestman won a Grey Cup here so credits for that. Besides that, he’s a good man, a good coach in general, and nobody expected him to win this year. Having said that, then why would he put his eggs into the 38 yr old Ricky Ray basket when Ricky won’t likely be around when the Boatmen do win a cup. It wasn’t going to happen this year.

        • mr62cats // August 4, 2017 at 5:28 pm //

          I disagree with your predictions even though I am still a die hard Tiger-Cat supporter. But when you say I have to “look on the bright side” I feel much more charitable. Are you a Monty Python fan? If so…all is forgiven!

      • George Porge // August 4, 2017 at 6:57 pm //

        “So Trestman doesn’t know much about the CFL anymore?”

        You know, that might not even be such a far-fetched thought. Trestman left for the NFL before all the big rule changes came about in the CFL. At the same time, he was trying to adjust his own playbook to fit the NFL game (and he wasn’t all that successful in doing so).

        Trestman missed a lot over the past few years that he was down south and whatever playbook he developed for the NFL isn’t going to work up here. He may have been a football genius in the Calvillo era, but he’s got a lot of catching up to do now.

  10. Dan Bombers // August 4, 2017 at 4:25 pm //

    What’s drew willy up to ,gave up a ton to get him may as well try to get something out of the deal imo

  11. Hors E Power // August 4, 2017 at 4:36 pm //

    Conridge Holloway?

    • Jim Corrigall // August 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm //

      Kent Austin may be available soon…

      • mr62cats // August 4, 2017 at 4:41 pm //

        Is this real North Bay Ontario, CFL, Jim Corrigall?
        Regardless the Blue team is welcome to poach Austin…but I suspect Tommy Condell would not be too pleased.

    • mr62cats // August 4, 2017 at 4:47 pm //

      Horse: It’s Condredge!!!! You really do need to pay more attention. And while I am at it, learn the difference between your and you’re.

      • Hors E Power // August 4, 2017 at 5:56 pm //

        So sorry mr62cats. I was a mere child when conridge played

        Your- in possession of
        You’re- short hand for you are
        As in You’re an idiot

  12. Jim Corrigall // August 4, 2017 at 4:36 pm //

    Though I am very upset with the loss of Ray, who was playing well, I agree that Fajardo is more of a modern CFL-style QB. I enjoy watching him and think, eventually, he will be great (his NCAA credentials are strong). My concern is that the Argos need to thrive now and create buzz in this market – something Ray was doing, at least a bit (albeit not putting bums in seats yet). He’s the only player anyone in T.O. knows…Argos need to find a way to win and market this new, exciting, young, gunslinger who is a must see performer – without putting too much pressure on the kid, lol. It ain’t easy…

  13. Marc Trestman tempted fate when he kept Ricky Ray in a game where the Argo’s already 1-dimension offense was going to abandon the run in order to make up for the huge deficit. With no worries about defending the run, Calgary defense’s only task was to pressure the QB the rest of the night. It became only a matter of time before Ricky Ray was going to take the inevitable big hit.

  14. Scottsask // August 4, 2017 at 4:40 pm //

    Awful news for the Argos.

  15. Thomas Askin // August 4, 2017 at 4:51 pm //

    Michael Kashak was playing hard like all Stampeders. Argo now play back to back with Montreal (tough games) & then (gulp) go to Calgary in week 10. As a CFL fan I hope there is a solution at Q.Back, otherwise it will be a tough 3 weeks and interest in the league will suffer if TO completely collapses like the Tiger Cats did in their first 4 games.

  16. Feeling Blue // August 4, 2017 at 5:02 pm //

    Ricky Ray is a HOF quarterback and all class.

  17. Ari Katz // August 4, 2017 at 6:21 pm //

    Unfortunate but finally a big break for the Ticats.

  18. Ari Katz // August 4, 2017 at 6:30 pm //

    With Golson about to come off the injury list, maybe the Ticats will be nice and trade Logan Kilgore back to the Argos.

  19. Nice ‘look-out’ block by Van Zeyl.
    Good grief 99 ran right by him.
    Get better Ricky the CFL needs you!

  20. Maybe Cody Fajardo will end up being the next Zach Collaros….wait a minute…

    • George Porge // August 4, 2017 at 7:01 pm //

      Collaros actually beat the Stampeders at McMahon when he was wearing the double-blue (IIRC, it was Collaros’ first game as a starter, too). If Fajardo manages to do the same, that would be a pretty good start.

      • Hors E Power // August 4, 2017 at 8:19 pm //

        Actually Calgary has a bad record against new unknown QBS. Remember Ryan Dinwiddie? He was pay if the week after playing stamps once

  21. BleedzGreen // August 4, 2017 at 9:01 pm //

    Thankfully this sounds like a lower-grade AC separation (Gr. 1). They’re likely allowing extra healing time/physio given his age/shoulder history.

    Heal well Mr. Hall-of-Famer!

  22. This was only a matter of time with the number of hits Ricky had been taking each game! Our O-Line needs a major upgrade – perhaps Greg Van Rotten becomes available in the coming weeks? Although I’d hate to go with 3 Internationals on the O-Line, it would keep our QB on his feet and open up some lanes for Whittaker. We have good Canadian depth elsewhere to make the ratio work.

  23. Quarterbacks are the sitting ducks of the CFL, in spite of their importance. QB injuries are one of the league’s big problems. Yes, a protective O-line helps, but can’t stop everything. Aggressive defenses are promoted and injuries tolerated – sometimes even celebrated.

    I hope Ray heals quickly, he is a great QB. In the meantime, the next one will step up and gain experience. Good luck to Fajardo and the Argos.

    • FrankS: Well said. You are a voice of reason.

      I wish the Bue Team luck too with regards to their QB situation….but not too much of it. At 0-6 and prospects for improvement dim, my supply of charity for other teams is at an all-time low. lol.

  24. Next man up as they say. What happened to Ricky Ray could of happened to ANY QB on any given play. Sure Trestman will get his backups ready and roaring to go. Wonder if Johnny Football can be pried away from the TiCats and he might head north? Does not look good for him in playing in the NFL in the near future.

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