Eskimos to compensate Redblacks after hiring Brock Sunderland

Edmonton will pay Ottawa half of Brock Sunderland’s 2017 salary to the Redblacks after hiring the 37-year-old as Eskimos general manager, but there will no additional compensation, per sources.

According to league guidelines, for there to be any additional compensation – draft picks or players – exchanged between the two teams, the terms must be clearly stated in writing at the time that the permission to interview is granted. There was nothing specified when Edmonton received the go-ahead to interview Sunderland.

As for the half salary payment, the protocol from the CFL’s anti-tampering document outlines the exact details:

“Should all the parties agree that a non-player employee can engage in discussions with another club, and if he signs with that other club, the requesting club shall pay to the former club 50 percent of the non-player employee’s existing base salary for the year in question, to a maximum of $100,000. This clause shall only apply if the non-player employee is under contract for the following football season.”

Some personnel men across the league feel the half-salary stipulation could hinder advancement while also limiting their job security: scouts and coaches who sign long-term deals could miss out on opportunities as teams look to avoid paying the extra salary.

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34 Comments on Eskimos to compensate Redblacks after hiring Brock Sunderland

  1. Put it down to the cost of doing business !

  2. mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 10:44 am //

    So if this is a standard clause in this situation why is it being reported? What’s the news?
    I still say Edmonton should have gone after Rick Campbell after the season instead.

    • I believe this is the first time that someone has actually paid out per the clause; it’s only been around a season or two.

      • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 11:43 am //

        Thanks Grain I didn’t realize that

        • This was brought in after all the poaching that happened a season or two ago. Also as Grain said the first time a club has compensated for taking a non player from another club.

    • Maybe because Edmonton taking Maas for no compensation as well as allegedly trying to get Thorpe who was under contract are why the league brought in the guideline?

  3. That sounds fair to me

  4. Its a “standard clause” but its a new standard that has only been in place for a year, that’s why its news….

    It is reasonable to make this payment IMHO, as the club has to undertake the expense of a whole re-hiring process. It is particularly reasonable give that Ottawa will have to backfill some of Sunderland’s work in the run up to the draft and preseason.

  5. mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 11:55 am //

    So here is a question for everyone. Given this new GM hire so late in the off season does this make it a lost season for Eskimos? Most of the prep for 2017 is done and there is little time or options left in terms of FA’s etc to change anything.
    I’m sure these considerations were made in the decision to hire Sutherland and there some common philosophy with Mass but I’m sure there’s still many things he wants different.

    • Why would it be a lost season? They have a good coaching staff and tons of talent on the roster. Paul Jones is more than competent enough to have prepped thoroughly for the draft.

      The big question is how does Ottawa revise its draft strategy at this late stage?

      • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 1:17 pm //

        Why would Ottawa revised strategy? Same philosophy still exists. Sutherland worked for the Desgardins.

      • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 1:28 pm //

        I think it may be a lost season because Sutherland will be waiting until next off season to be able to implement all that he wants. In the mean time he may begin changes now and throughout the season to “make room” for these like dumping salaries and players he doesn’t like.

    • Only in terms of what the new GM wants to do and anything the GM would need to put their stamp on.

      I believe most of the players as well as the offense/defense are the same so there’s no reason I can see that they won’t be competitive.

    • Marc Lebut // April 25, 2017 at 10:12 am //

      You don’t hire a GM with the same views as if it was a HC hiring. When you hire a GM, your vision must go quite further. You look years ahead, not the next season.

      Sunderland already did his homework in assessing the players in the draft. it won’t be so much of a job to reshuffle the deck for the Eskimos, as most of the work is already done.

      FA’s hirings are pretty much done. Eskimos may look for other players in USA before TC, but regarding players personnel, the draft is the biggest issue.

  6. These regulations are only a start for non-player employees. There still is no cap and their contracts are paid out in full after “release”. I wouldn’t be surprised if Riders coaching and managerial staff salaries eclipse the whole roster salary.

    • The contract is not paid out in full. SUtherland broke the contract (with Ottawa’s permission), and will be paid by EDM for 2017. He doesn’t get to double-dip with his old OTT contract.

      If, on the other hand, the club breaks a contract and releases a coach or GM, then of course they have to honour the rest of the contract. Otherwise a multi-year contract is pointless.

      • Then a multi-year contract, or any contract, for a player would also be “pointless” because their contracts are NOT honoured. I guess that’s why players ask for the money up front.
        In this case I was just adding to the argument for more CFL regulations regarding non-player compensation that match up with the player compensation. Riders are the glaring example of such a need.

        • That’s correct. With the current agreement, teams can get out of (most) contracts by cutting the player, and of course they usually use this to restructure expensive multi-year contracts.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 3:52 pm //

      Riders are paying a fortune for past hiring mistakes. There will be even more soon. If Jones is gone by mid season this could be close to another million dollars. Considering the costs of paying and running an new expensive stadium this could all become a very financially burdened organization. Hope fans buy a lot more jerseys.

      • Miss Kitty // April 24, 2017 at 4:44 pm //

        stampland, why do you turn every article into something about the riders. Your point can be said for any team, even your stamps. If Dickenson is canned by mid year, the stamps have to pay for his contract too. You are nothing but a rider sh## disturber and you have to stop. You are wrecking the whole intent of this site where folks can write in and talk about the cfl. You only turn it into abuse about Jones and the riders. I am going to write in to the 3DownNation editors and ask that you are banned, like YOU do to other people who don’t say what you like.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 5:12 pm //

          Heather. Of course Calgary would have to pay out Dickenson. Between Dickensen and Jones who is most likely to me fired this season?. Calgary isn’t paying compensation to anyone because they make sound hirings. That’s the difference and why my criticisms are valid.

        • Puck Hog // April 24, 2017 at 7:27 pm //

          Correct, Miss Kitty, Stampland hijacks the intent of this forum. He is obsessed with the Riders. He can’t get the Riders out of his head. The first thing on his mind In the morning: da Riders. The last thing he thinks about at night: da Riders. He frets that the Riders have put into motion a very effective and successful machine that will be churning out championships. It is the fear of the Riders that keeps Stampland thinking about them constantly. What else can it be? What else would make a grown man (although he livies in his parents garage, with no cable. He reputedly steals wifi from the nearby airport) behave like Stampland? REALLY, what else would make him act this way? Anyone willing to pitch in a few bucks to help our brother in need?

      • Miss Kitty // April 24, 2017 at 4:47 pm //

        hey stampland, lets talk about Tommie Campbell then as you seem to not have any rules about any articles. TC is no different than Cox for the riders. TC was given a chance in the NFL (drug related issues) and now he did the same in the CFL (drug trafficking) and was given a second chance. I would think selling drugs to kids is as bad as any physical abuse charge as I don’t want my kids to have access to drugs – like Tommie Campbell is giving them. does that feel, not good hey. Comment on that topic and see if you can stick to it.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm //

          Sure no problem I’ve mentioned Tommie Campbell many times and certainly don’t endorse the activity. I would like to see Calgary part ways if he’s guilty.
          The truth is we don’t know to total story yet. Last heard the charges have been dropped (according to him) and we will see what happens.
          Somebody please tell were it’s showing Tommie Campbell was charged prior to this incident! I can see anything mentioned!
          Also you are making accusations when you say he was selling to children there is no suggestion of that. If he did than it is as bad as domestic violence I would agree. If he is selling to adults than it’s not even close to being as bad. Not that I’m trying to minimize the crime.

  7. The cost of stupidity of Len Rhodes.

  8. stampland dont you ever have anything good to say about the riders

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 5:36 pm //

      I do when it’s warranted.
      Great fan support, beautiful new facility.
      What else do you want me to say?

  9. So the Riders announce their new staff today – all 15 of them including 2 for Quality Control. Wow – talk about value for money. Outside of Regina & the new look equally expensive Argos staff with 13 on board, all the other teams employ 9-11 coaches. Maybe the 2 QC coaches should handle the type of player Jones is bringing in. What does all this buy you? The 2 most overblown coaching staffs in the CFL were also the worst teams in 2016 & sure look a lot like they’re going down that road again. We sure got the goods when Jones came over from Edmonton. Open your wallet & give him the keys & all his buddies are on the gravy train. Better hope our merchandise keeps selling & we put aside a few bucks to pay off that shiny new stadium.

  10. mrnehnehincognito // April 24, 2017 at 5:47 pm //

    Jones seems is putting on a show with his huge staff his huge scouting tree and all his 80 plus prospects he’s bring to mini camp. When you only have 3 days you can’t properly evaluate all these young men. You can only bring 68 total to camp and with a heavy roster already they can’t bring in anymore than a hand full.
    This number should have been dwindled down during the other camps so that only to cream of the crop are out there this week. Its about quality not quantity

  11. Hey Stampland – the fellow’s name is SUNDERLAND, not Sutherland as you state. Show the man a little respect would you! Also, Bravo Miss Kitty…

  12. With 100K the Redblacks should be able to sign a pretty good free agent from either side of the border. Good money for 6 months of ones time.

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