Cox assault shows CFL, Riders have failed on the issue of domestic violence

By Allison Currie

“Don’t throw your trash in my backyard.”

That’s the song that comes into my head any time the CFL takes a look at a player from down south with a criminal or violent history. It’s no different with recently-released Saskatchewan Roughrider Justin Cox, who was sent packing after a domestic violence incident this week that left a woman with head injuries. While I can appreciate the swift response, the truth is that Cox never should have been allowed into the league to begin with.

This wasn’t the first time Cox has been involved with violence towards women. He has two prior charges for assault against him, the first one involving an assault on his then-girlfriend (he pled guilty to a lesser charge after she declined to move forward on the assault, an all-too-common outcome.) If the league and its teams truly cared about their stance on domestic violence, Cox never would have been given the chance to become the Riders’ Most Outstanding Rookie.

The CFL has a mandatory seminar for its players. It focuses heavily on social media training; being careful in what you post, who you interact with, and teaching trending words. In at least one of the seminars, it involved a female RCMP officer discussing statistics on domestic violence. According to one player, while it had great information it came off ‘forced’ and as if the league was just covering its butt.

I think the mandatory seminars and public statements are important. The best way to curb the acceptance of violence is however, follow along here, to not accept it. Period. What good are afternoon seminars, if the league itself doesn’t follow through? If those responsible for acquiring players can so easily brush aside repeated behaviour to put a product on the field?

According to Chris Jones, he knew guys who knew Justin Cox so that made it ok to sign him. How many times have we seen friends and family members of violent offenders claim, “he was such a nice guy,” after a brutal crime? Cox showed a history of violence and aggression. His own actions showed exactly who he is. Jones showed acceptance of Cox’s behaviour by signing him and it is a microcosm of how easily brushed aside violence and aggression towards women is overlooked in favour of men who are talented or successful.

This isn’t just about whether or not a player will be a great guy on a team. It creates a dangerous culture that tells people you can get away with heinous acts if you are popular enough. This is why women don’t speak up. There is a continued pattern where accountability and appropriate repercussions don’t exist and the offender is nearly untouchable.

This never should have come down to a third strike for Justin Cox. It’s too late to make the policy “zero tolerance” because tolerance was already shown. The CFL’s policy was brought in during the summer of 2015, yet Cox signed with the Riders in 2016. I will give the league credit for blocking any potential signing of Greg Hardy, interestingly also by Jones’ Riders. It’s a weak stance, however, if it isn’t consistent across the board.

I do believe the CFL is serious in wanting a higher standard for its players, the follow through needs to be there. If so, perhaps there can be influence on a certain league south of the border as well. The same league that had scouts from every team checking out Joe Mixon.

– Allison Currie is an Edmonton-based writer, producer, customer service expert and social media guru. Follow her on Twitter @AlleyDalley.


131 Comments on Cox assault shows CFL, Riders have failed on the issue of domestic violence

  1. Weak article. To say that a person shouldn’t have an opportunity to continue their career because of a previous crime is asinine. All teams, and employers for that matter, typically examine a players past and do risk assessments on whether they believe someone is likely to re-offend. If the risk is low, MOST companies will give a second or third opportunity if the individual is a potential asset. Big business and sports do it all the time, and they cut bait the second the individual becomes a liability. There’s 8 other teams that regretted not picking up Cox by the end of last season as he was a model teammate and a star on the rise, and they’d be lying if they said they wouldn’t scooped him this offseason before this past week.

    Clearly, Jones believed that Cox had grown up and when presented with proof to the opposite, he and the Riders reacted swiftly.

    As far as your Joe Mixon comment, how about clarifying that the reason why “every team” was there scouting him was because it was during Oklahoma’s pro day when a dozen other talented prospects were also working out. Should the NFL have skipped Oklahoma’s pro day entirely because one player was working out that has a terrible incident in his past? There’s a difference between being at the same event and scouting as some teams have him completely off their boards.

    • Agreed and what failed here is the US judicial system and as previously quoted that if every player with any issue in his past was not allowed to play it might be you and I suiting up come June. Go on and be frustrated and personally he disgusts me for what he has done, but watch out which direction you throw blame. Oh well I won’t take the time to read one of her articles again. Any idiot can cast blame.

      • I think you misread the column, or at least didn’t understand it. The author’s point is that the CFL has an existing (and highly touted) anti-violence against women policy. Yet, despite this policy, a player with a history of violence against women was allowed to join the league and play, only to commit another violent act. Either the league is against domestic violence, or it is not. That’s the point of the column. No where does it even come close to suggesting that every player with a troubled past need be turned away.

        Also, the author doesn’t really “cast blame” at Justin Cox. Justin Cox is guilty and a woman-beater – a woman beater convicted multiple times. There’s no real morally ambiguous area here.

  2. It sounds like the author doesn’t believe in giving second chances, possibly because it comes with the risk of failure as has happened with Justin Cox.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 11:03 am //

      2nd chances? Try 3rd chances in the case of Cox. I’m glad the CFL has set a standard and is policing the type of players it wants in it’s league. Maybe the next step is taking punitive action against teams that try to circumvent these polices which Jones has now done multiple times. He had no choice but to release this guy thanks to the league rules.
      I know Riders fans hate this but it’s time to take your emotions out of it and really ask yourself. Is this the guy we want leading this team (win or lose)? Jones himself breaks the rules and clearly has no higher standard for any of his players.

      • As a long-time season ticket holder, I have zero problem with him trying out Cox and having him on the team, albeit with a short leash. Let’s remember the kid is 23 and needs some serious counseling going forward on his anger issues.

        His first incident was in college, when many of us have made ridiculous errors in judgment, and his second incident cost him a huge opportunity in the US. If I was an employer, and did my research that the kid got counseling and realized that his behavior is unacceptable and won’t be tolerated going forward, I would take a chance on a young kid with a past.

        Using your logic, we should throw the young offenders in our justice system to the gulag because once a criminal always a criminal. Or is someone with a checkered past only qualified to pump gas? Where do we draw the line? If you’ve done drugs, you’re written off too? Got in to a college brawl? Stole something?

        Teams will never have a collection of choirboys on their roster, and any fan that’s realistic will know that. As a fan, I want my heroes to be good people but I recognize many of them aren’t.

        Hell, one of the biggest stars in the CFL Hall of Fame is an arrogant drunk and pushed a women down at a CFL event because she wouldn’t serve him anymore. This was a couple years ago and was never reported but it hasn’t stopped everyone from adoring him still.

        Even Pinball Clemons has admitted in some of his youth outreach talks that he wasn’t always the best citizen. People can grow if you give them the chance, but some will also fail and disappoint you greatly.

        Back to your question, I know Jones has a high standard for his players, but I also know he’s going to vet any opportunity and weigh the pros and negatives. He’s human and has made some mistakes playing fast and loose with some of the leagues less-enforced rules and was burned by it.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 12:17 pm //

          Wow lochtess. How’s the weather today in sugarland?

          • Better than in troll-land, my friend.

            I apologize that your narrow view of society and inability to add anything intelligent to the conversation is showing, but have fun little boy. Please feel free to continue while the grown ups converse.

    • So, if Cox had been a convicted pedophile you think the Riders should have signed him anyway? If not, are you suggesting that molesting children is worse than beating up women? If so, to what degree? How bad a crime is beating up women to you? Like, it’s okay 25% of the time? 50% of the time? I’m genuinely curious.

      The league has an overt stance against domestic violence. I team signing a player with a history of domestic violence flies in the face of that stance and should not be allowed. How many other teams may have hypothetically done the same is completely irrelevant.

      • Dan, thanks for asking such a ridiculously general statement, that there is no right answer, and thus proving my point.

        There’s varying degrees of everything. In some American states it’s illegal for a 16-year old to have sex with an 18-year old and convictions can result in registry as a sex offender. Are we throwing those kids away with the degenerates that create and trade in child pornography, or sexually abuse children?

        Do we immediately ban someone who’s been accused of sexual assault or domestic violence on hearsay? What if both parties were convicted? What if the individual witnessed DV as a youth and although they’ve never perpetrated it, they’re significantly more likely to commit DV than someone who hasn’t experienced it? What if the violence was purely emotional? What is and isn’t allowed with a blanket policy that doesn’t take each situation into account?

        No one is saying Justin Cox is a model citizen and was a mistake in retrospect, but what if he had overcome his demons, never committed DV again, and became a shining example of turning your life around and helped others do so too. Although the latter is less likely, blanket stereotyping and decisions have been proven detrimental in our justice system whereas counseling and reintegration are more successful methods.

        Nothing is cut and dry, nor should deciding the future of other people.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 12:18 pm //

          Sugar in the morning sugar in the evening sugar at supper time!

        • Yes, I was being facetious, but you’ve missed the entire point of the column.

          The CFL (supposedly) has a zero tolerance stance on DV. That stance cannot be reconciled with allowing a player convicted of DV to play in the league. Either it’s zero tolerance for beating up women or it’s sometimes tolerance of beating up women.

          In my opinion, it should be zero tolerance.

          Society, and professional sports in particular, have a long, long history of overlooking violence against women in preference of supporting a man’s potential for good/success. History is literally full of high school/college rape cases where male perpetrators are let off lightly because of their potential for good/success. Let’s not even delve into cases like Jerry Sandusky (I’m sure all involved there debated the “varying degrees” of his guilt while keeping silent).

          Justin Cox had two prior DV charges. How many DV charges is enough to get someone banned from playing in the CFL, in your opinion – 1, 2, 10? Or, more to the point, how many women do you think Justin Cox should be allowed to beat up before he’s not allowed to play in the CFL?

          Above you say “His first incident was in college, when many of us have made ridiculous errors in judgment, and his second incident cost him a huge opportunity in the US”. Do you think that beating up a woman is a “ridiculous error in judgement”? In my opinion, a “ridiculous error in judgement” is eating a turkey dinner before heading to the gym – not hitting a woman. You also make sure to mention the “huge opportunity” it cost him in college. What do you think it cost the woman he assaulted? Your comments are part-and-parcel of the systemic problem I mentioned above.

          Justin Cox is not a victim here. No one (not even the writer of the column – contrary to what a lot of Justin Cox defenders here are posting) is suggesting that Justin Cox shouldn’t get counselling, or be thrown in the “gulag”. What they are saying is that zero tolerance of DV means zero tolerance and Cox (and other players with histories of DV) should not be allowed to play in a league that takes that stance.

          • No one is defending what he did. What we’re defending is the Riders right to give him a chance. Upon his failure he was released. Is the point the Riders should not have given him a chance because he failed twice before? I assure you, where you work and people you know could be grouped into the same boat as Cox. Maybe not violent attacks, but verbal can do as much damage. It appears we have the same allegations among the ranks of our nations police force, yet how many of them are let go. It’s a difficult problem. To blame the Riders in any of this is short sighted. That is what is wrong with the article.

          • lochtess // April 20, 2017 at 1:30 pm //

            No one is suggesting Cox is a victim. The victim is the young woman allegedly assaulted (and I believe there was definitely an assault).

            What I’m defending are those saying Chris Jones and the Riders are at fault for having him play when the so-called zero tolerance rule only applies to present players. Chris Jones did not bring in a player that the league disallowed, or else he would not have been able to play last year. If the league had a blanket zero tolerance rule, where anyone, no matter the circumstances, has a violent crime conviction would be forever ineligible to play, I wouldn’t necessarily agree but I would respect it.

            The fact is the league allows players with checkered pasts to play but only blames them if they fail as an active player. If the league was concerned about anything more than their image, they wouldn’t let approve the players contract in the first place.

          • @lochtess

            “As a long-time season ticket holder, I have zero problem with him trying out Cox and having him on the team, albeit with a short leash. Let’s remember the kid is 23 and needs some serious counseling going forward on his anger issues.

            His first incident was in college, when many of us have made ridiculous errors in judgment, and his second incident cost him a huge opportunity in the US. If I was an employer, and did my research that the kid got counseling and realized that his behavior is unacceptable and won’t be tolerated going forward, I would take a chance on a young kid with a past.”

            You may not have called him a victim, but you went to some length to defend his actions and his chance at a 3rd shot. Further, if you believe there was an assault, why is the 3rd time the magic number for you? Beating two women was okay – a “ridiculous error in judegment” – but beating three women isn’t something you can support? Can’t you see how the systemic issue of defending/victimizing men in cases of DV is so entrenched that your initial comment was just more of the same (maybe including, somewhere, a bit of the Chris Jones defense that your now touting).

            The writer of this column was calling out the league for not following through on it’s stance of zero tolerance of DV. The Riders, and Chris Jones, are culpable in this particular instance, but no more or less so than the league. That’s the whole point of the piece. It’s not some Rider hate vehicle. If you legitimately think that the columnist was attacking the Riders, or Chris Jones, outside the context of the issue with the league, then you’ve got some serious conspiracy theory issues to handle.

          • @Ladd Law

            The column doesn’t blame the Riders. Read it again with your green tinted glasses off. It blames the league and, in the context of this particular case, discusses the broader issue of men being pardoned/victimized in cases of DV due to their potential for success/good.

            Also, your own comment(s) is(are) tacitly defending what he did.

          • Ladd Law // April 20, 2017 at 5:15 pm //

            @ Dan. Nice try. I think the title of the column points directly at the Riders having done something wrong. Also, in no way do I condone what he did. What I said was, persons with his issues are not just football players or Riders, they exist in all walks of life, including our law enforcement offices who should be held to the highest standards, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest they are not.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 5:18 pm //

          “What if the violence was purely emotional? ”
          What kind of defense is that lochtess?.
          No disrespect but that is a scary comment.

      • If you can’t see the difference between the 2 there is no help from your black or white world. Everyone knows the response to this article would have been different. Eric Tillman was charged with sexual assault involving a teenage girl. Anyone trashing Hamilton for hiring him or praising the Riders for parting ways with him. Exactly, it’s double standards.

    • He’s a piece of shit and anyone who defends him is the same! Putting down the author! Unbelievable. Flush the culprit!

      • hey dumb ass, no one is defending him. Problems reading?

        • “His first incident was in college, when many of us have made ridiculous errors in judgment, and his second incident cost him a huge opportunity in the US.”

          This sure reads like defending to me.

        • Jeff May // April 21, 2017 at 6:00 pm //

          Not so dumb to make more than you in a week before you get up everyday!! Go ahead and insult!

  3. To t he folks posting above about second chances. This was a third chance and he still failed.

    Also don’t forget that this league is trying to set an example for the community and a standard for its players.

    Lastly, lets not be unrealistic here. Criminal records preclude being hired at many, many jobs, the CFL should be one of them as well.

    I applaud the decision, and hope teams keep this in mind going forward.

  4. Seriously 3D where do you find this writers? This chick is doing nothing but stirring the pot with innuendo and gossip columnist zeal. I am sure she has a clean cupboard with no issues, because she sure writes like she does. The reality is, most teams have players with these flaws. To blame an organization for someone’s actions away from the field is a lot ridiculous. This website is going south in a hurry.

    • amen.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 11:30 am //

      Ladd Law. You need to end this cycle of denial. It’s not stirring the pot, it’s not fake news. What’s happening in Mosaic is real. Maybe it’s time for a total chance in Sask. Perhaps community ownership is antiquated. No one in the organization as enough at stake or authority above them to really care enough to run a sound ,respectful organization . It’s time to bring in an actual owner (perhaps ex Sask Pat Brett Wilson would be interested?).

      • mrinconsequential I can’t use the language your comment deserves and the day you disappear will be a joyful one. I am of the community you speak, and I like the fact the Riders are a COMMUNITY based organization; it’s what endears them to so many. Your POV is weak, biased, and typical of Rider haters. At least you’re consistent. The writer is painting a lot of pictures based one persons actions. No one is responsible for how another acts; that includes community based sport teams.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 12:22 pm //

          I truly hope you see the light someday Ladd Law and realize how narrow your comment is. You are missing the big picture by focusing on a single square inch.

          • Ladd Law // April 20, 2017 at 1:01 pm //

            I haven’t a flipping clue what you go on about. I do not condone what Cox did, and if I were in charge of the Riders, I probably would have taken a pass on him. That said, I do not and will not ever hold someone responsible for another person’s actions. That’s the point I don’t agree with the author’s POV. She’s blaming the Riders for Cox’s actions. Wrong.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 7:31 pm //

          antiquated concept

    • “This chick”, “innuendo and gossip”? Wow, did you just fall of the MRA train on your way through?

  5. Christopher // April 20, 2017 at 11:39 am //

    Cox should never have been allowed in the CFL… and to all the people above that are defending Jones’ right to give a second, third or 4th chance to anyone… that you have no issues with a convicted abusers… I have one thing to say… You are the problem.. you are accepting Violence Against Women… Shame on you.

    • Hyperbole much?

      No one is saying that they have no issues with convicted abusers. I think everyone finding issue with the article has issue with the concept that once you’re guilty of any crime that you are permanently unemployable.

      Very few occupations have a zero tolerance policy where a past will completely preclude you from employment. There should be definite consequences and counseling required for anyone who harms anyone else. That said, if convicted drunk drivers, drug abusers/dealers, thieves, et al can have the ability to turn around their lives, so should those with domestic violence. That said, I would want whatever employer who hires them to give them the support they need to change their behavior and clear repercussions if they don’t.

      • Wow, talk about hyperbole. The column doesn’t say that once he’s convicted of domestic violence he should be permanently unemployable. It says that in a league that has a strong and (supposedly) strict stance against domestic violence, someone who’s been convicted of that crime multiple times should not be allowed to play.

        Also, do you equate beating up women with driving drunk, abusing/dealing drugs, and stealing? I mean, most of those (barring resulting in a death) can be seen as fairly minor offenses. Do you think beating up women is a minor offense? What about beating up more than one woman, or the same woman on multiple occasions?

      • That’s what I was trying to say! I can’t believe a woman beater is being or getting the perception of being defended here?!! Let him take a swing at me, the sick COWARD!

        • lochtess // April 20, 2017 at 1:21 pm //

          Big talk Jeff May.

          If you live in Regina, you have every opportunity to go take your swing at him, yet you’ll never do it.

          Also, no one is defending the actions of Justin Cox. If anything we all agree he has to go. What is being defended is the right in our society to give people second, third, fourth chances, etc.

          If a victim was my sister/brother I’d be right pissed and despise the person who hurt them. If the accused was my sister/brother, I’d be extremely upset with them, but after counseling and serving any punishments, I would hope they would have a chance in the future to still live their life and follow their dreams. Is it realistic that they would become a police officer or other occupations with zero tolerance for any crime – no. That said, until the CFL determines that all criminals, or even just those convicted and/or accused of violent crime, are forever banned from playing, I don’t blame Chris Jones for giving Cox a shot after vetting him.

          In this case it blew up in his face. But by having a rule that is cut and dry without reviewing individual circumstance, the league will be devoid of the many people who do overcome sordid pasts and become good human beings and role models.

          Players should be severely punished for breaking the law, but to brand them with a scarlet letter for the rest of their life solves nothing.

          • You did defend the actions of Justin Cox (I quoted you in another post above) – if not specifically, then implicitly.

            This column was never about giving people 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc chances. It’s about the league having a zero tolerance policy against DV and then allowing a player with a history of DV to play. It’s about how to reconcile those two things and the broader issue of men being pardoned/shown leniency for crimes (specifically DV) based on their potential for success/good (frequently in the context of sports).

  6. I agree. Get off it. Horrible article by a horrible writer. You should be ashamed of yourself. He got a second/third chance at football. Most players or people in other industries do as well. Don’t condemn the riders and the cfl for releasing and banning him from further signing. Honestly you are calling them out for doing what is right. And putting a picture of Jones up instead of say…Cox? Come on. Feel shame. This article has dropped 3down nation out of my go to site for information. I’ll stick to radio, cfl’s actual site and tv. I actually can’t believe I wasted my time reading this and then commenting. Allison Currie, get over it. Jones left. Stop breeding hate.

  7. Honestly you should write for hockey feed. BREAKING NEWS! What you are about to read is a pile of BS, instead of focusing on a new comissioner or the prospects in the upcoming draft or anything else football related I am going to write about nothing. The end. That’s you Allison. That’s you.

    • Bob knows. // April 20, 2017 at 11:54 am //

      Kevin. Do us all a favor and stop visiting 3D. What Allison is attempting to get across is that the CFL has preached a ZERO tolerance regarding domestic violence. PERIOD! What the riders did was not give a man a 3rd chance, but rather allowed a repeat offender to gain national recognition and openly flaunt the zero tolerance policy. It is because of people like you that violent offenders get 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances. Time to get with the program. The CFL should put mandate that ANY violent offender is barred from the CFL for life.

      • Double standard much?

        A league that has a zero tolerance policy, yet has other players with checkered pasts, including an executive advisor with the TiCats who sexually assaulted a minor but blamed back medication for the indiscretion.

        Also, stating “people like you” isn’t typically an effective way of sharing ideas in discourse. If you feel our opinions are incorrect, or misguided, please explain how one determines when and how to give second chances, and what do we do as a society if someone has paid their debt to society in a legal sense but now is written off for life.

  8. I don’t agree with what Cox did , on the other hand good on Riders for giving him a chance . Fox blew it and the Riders did the right thing

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 5:25 pm //

      No Riders didn’t do the right thing Ziggy. The right thing would have been to never give him another chance. They did and now look whats happened.

      • The Riders did the right thing. They always do. Now if 3 Down will do the right thing and block your coo-coo comments.

  9. I feel sorry for those who were assaulted – they should not have been. One goal should be to get Cox the help he needs so that he won’t re-assault. I believe it would have been better for Cox to have been offered mandatory counselling. If Cox has anger and dominance issues, then just releasing him helps no one. Better to educate him and have him educate others than to kick him to the streets.

    • I disagree. He should have been cut immediately, which he was. It’s up to our justice system, if convicted, to ensure he gets the treatment he needs. It’d also be nice if the Riders were to help pay for his counseling and treatment, though obviously they’re under no obligation to as a former employer.

  10. Great article, and judging by half the comments here, obviously much needed. Lots of fans still don’t get it, and are trying to rationalize this because of their support for their team (or their desire to stick it to a particular team).

    The bigger issue isn’t really about Jones or the Riders, they are just the example of the moment. Next month it could just as easily be another team. The fact is, this is about changing the culture of the league, while we also struggle to change our culture as a society. Football is a violent game, with a lot of hyper-competitive personalities and a long history of beliefs like “winning isn’t the most important thing, its the only thing”. Perhaps the league has to be extra vigilant in not letting these characteristics over-ride our better selves.

    • Great comment.

    • Billinburlington // April 20, 2017 at 10:58 pm //

      Totally agree. Perhaps it is time for the CFL to have further open discussion on its policies regarding players with criminal history related to violence against women.

  11. mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm //

    Comparing professional sports league and it’s athletes to the average company and it’s employees in terms of hiring policies is comparing apples to oranges.
    Fact is it playing pro sports (even the CFL) is a huge privilege and whether these lucky few like it or not they are automatically role models. If you cannot or will not accept this you are not pro caliber as far as I’m concerned. The burden begins with individual teams and scouts the properly vet prospects.
    Chris Jones lack of interest in doing this is a kick in the face of all people who support and pay money to the riders.

  12. Scottsask // April 20, 2017 at 1:08 pm //

    I know that I’ve put you on ignore Horsieland., but that last statement is by far the most coherent thing you’ve ever posted on here. Well put.

  13. Rick cowan // April 20, 2017 at 1:11 pm //

    Stampland what about your player Tommie Campbell he should nt be allowed to play either after dealing drugs oh he plays for the stamps they don’t do anything wrong

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 4:25 pm //

      Rick, I really think you and Ladd Law are missing the point. Of course no team can be held totally responsible for an individual players actions but when this player has a recent history of violence/criminal behavior that should be a real red flag that makes a pro team look elsewhere
      I do not condone Tommie Campbell but he did not come to Stamps with a history as far as I know. Anyways we have yet to know for sure what will happen to him.

  14. Have to agree with Stampland. I happen to work in a large corporation & for a number of years hired applicants. Never mind hiring someone with a history of domestic violence, try getting hired by posting an inappropriate comment or picture due to youthful exuberance and see how a company interviewing you sees this. Comparing sports leagues to the average company IS apples and oranges. This isn’t a foolish indiscretion @ 16. The man’s 24 years old & is a 3rd time offender. And for those who say we should be lenient and give him a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th chance, what planet are you on? Why not 5th, 6th, 7th until he learns. Never mind “this chick”, as one so cavalierly commented, what about the other 2 victims & those to come with those later chances you promote. And for what, so you the season ticket holder can see your star player perhaps help your club to another win? Give your head a shake.

  15. Another embarrassment for us Rider fans. This is very troubling. I have no issue giving a person a second chance but this assumes they man up and admit to having made a mistake and being accountable and acknowledging their problem and getting professional help for it plus doing community service on the issue. This was never the case with Cox unlike others like Jeff Knox. You should not get a third chance. Cox didn’t learn and doesn’t think he has an issue. This is an embarrassment and Jones needs to acknowledge his mistake and ensure it doesn’t happen again. This needs to stop!

    • I think it’s more of an embarrassment to the league than just the Riders. Zero tolerance means zero tolerance. There are still issues of DV (past and present) in this league, I’m sure. Until the CFL can make real on it’s supposed stance, the hippocracy will continue.

    • Puck Hog // April 21, 2017 at 9:12 pm //

      Tj what are you talking about? The Riders got rid of Cox. Your asinine comments are what must stop!

  16. Do the Riders think they are above the law? How many of them have been in troubke with the law before. Recently they imquired about Greg Hardy. How many NFL teams are after him
    How about putting Ray Rice on their neg list. It’s ridiculous how many time they have tried putting questionable people on their roster.
    Chris Jones figures he’s above the league. I hope we get a commissioner that has some balls and puts his foot down on these problems.

  17. Let’s change the topic. Isn’t Stampland/Mr meh meh the most annoying individual? If only we could see what you look like. I’m trying to picture the biggest coward all dressed in red.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 4:46 pm //

      what have I said that isn’t true VOR? Whether or not you agree with the writer or agree that COX should or shouldn’t be given another chance the fact is we was. This 3rd chance was given to him by a single man who seems less than concerned about personal off field conduct. This single decision has now further tarnished Chris Jones reputation, Saskatchewan Rough Riders organization the CFL and further set back the plight and battle against domestic violence.
      How can any of you defend that?

    • Puck Hog // April 21, 2017 at 9:14 pm //

      Good comment, VOR, lol!

  18. Rick cowan // April 20, 2017 at 3:20 pm //

    Stampland this is Tommie Campbell so second chance he was released from the NFL for drugs oh but he plays for the stamps so that doesn’t matter

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 4:32 pm //

      I guess it becomes an than on how far the league takes any potential policy for now its about DV if you want to include drug abuse then Campbell should be mentioned for sure.

  19. Mr_mister61 // April 20, 2017 at 4:11 pm //

    A total blanket policy isnt the best policy. Some people can change and if they can prove that they have tried to change their life for the better i dont have a issue with giving them the chance. But first they have to show that they understand what they did was wrong and they regret it and what have they done to better themselves. Have they taken courses on how to properly deal with their emotions? Have they gotten involved with organisations that try to help the type of people that they hurt. Etc etc the courts determine their punishment and if they have done the time for the crime and show a improvement they deserve another chance but there does have to be a line in the sand when they have had enough chances and have shown that its unlikely they wont reoffend. And to those praising sask for letting him go i suspect the league told sask to release him because they would not allow him to play anymore since the league had a statement about it already around the same time he was released.

    Secondly if a player were to be blacklisted the moment they are charged with these types of crimes it opens the players up to abuse. There are women out there that will know they can tell guys they have to do this or that or else they will charge them with abuse. And i have personally witnessed a man get charged with abuse by a woman he broke up with and she said if he left her she would charge him and when it got to court she did not have to prove he did anything he had to prove that he did not. I know this is not always the case but it does happen as it is. And if you make it 1 incident your done up and coming star players will get blackmailed.

  20. The Iceman // April 20, 2017 at 4:23 pm //

    Horrible and undefendable crime this person has committed.
    BUT Why should society care any more if he is a football player, banker or warehouse supervisor. The fact that he is a football player doesn’t make Jones any worse than the guy hiring someone to work at the corner donut shop that carries an equally bad rap sheet. Bottom line is get this guy help and try to rehabilitate him to return to whatever career he chooses.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 4:37 pm //

      It absolutely does make it worse Iceman.
      No disrespect to Bankers,warehouse supervisors or doughnut bakers (all are honest ways to make a living)
      but none of these professions are high profile and revered by society and it’s youth like pro athletes are. They must be held to a higher standard

      • Perhaps you should look for a job at one of those honest positions, Stampland. You’re in your fifties and still living in your parents house, spending all your time trolling.

  21. mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 5:04 pm //

    Without a doubt we all have done dumb things when we were young and it’s not necessarily indicative of who we are as adults. We all grow we all learn. I won’t speak for anyone else here but my stupidity in youth never went anywhere close to beating women!

    • Maybe you did or maybe you didn’t , who knows? But you do leave the impression that your stupidity in your youth followed you closely into your adulthood.

  22. What if a transgender Stampeder player hits their transgender partner, is that against league rules?

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 6:28 pm //

      What an egregious comment Grain. Wow in 2017.
      That is a clear shot at the stamps and transgender individuals.
      All transgender people are more than welcome to watch games at McMahon stadium this year.

  23. Judge Jones // April 20, 2017 at 6:30 pm //

    Scum bags attract other scum bags! Right Chris

  24. mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 6:39 pm //

    3 Downnation writers.
    Please review Grain comments above regarding transgender. This is offensive and should result in his removal.Thank you for your consideration

    • Nice try PC Principal. As your flushed your sense of humor a long time ago I’m sure you didn’t catch on to the semantics of my original statement. I could have asked if a gay player hit his gay partner, would they be kicked out as well. That is to say, is the league’s policy gender specific, or not. That I added a humorous jab at your Stamps worked in my favor in that I succeeded in getting you foaming at the mouth.

      • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 7:03 pm //

        we will let the powers to be a 3downnation decide that Grain.

        • I would suggest that you should be kicked out. Your the one who’s offended at the thought of having a transgender player on his team. What’s wrong with that? Really?

        • Puck Hog // April 22, 2017 at 6:01 pm //

          Well, Mr. Incoherent, it looks like 3 down nation decided.

      • Actually, your original comment was pathetic, offensive and infantile. Not to mention unfunny and ignorant. Your follow up is just as bad. Time to grow up and join us in 2017.

        • I’ve obviously offended many of you, for doing so I apologize.

          • Hey man, it’s a real noble (and rare) thing to apologize on the Internet. You get my respect for that (for whatever that’s worth).

    • Puck Hog // April 22, 2017 at 5:53 pm //

      Mr. incoherent, really, does anyone care if they offend you? Time for you to get your head out of your red, hairy, arse.

  25. Now if only Stampland would apologize for his antics on the internet…

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 8:29 pm //

      I have apologized a few times when I’ve offended. I don’t make comments like that, As I’ve said many times I don’t make personal and offensive attacks against any individuals on here. I’ll talk about the teams and the stories and comment on other peoples comments but I never get offensive

  26. mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 8:33 pm //

    Calling out Chris Jones and making reasonable comments on the state of the riders and their prospect of the future is not offensive on a personal level and just because you don’t like what I say doesn’t make it so.

  27. Methinks he doth protest too much….

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 9:02 pm //

      Rowdy do you don’t seem to understand the difference between an opinion/criticism and insult

  28. Wow I think we all have too much time on our hands. Lets remember we are all CFL fans and we are all welcome to an opinion that’s what this open forum is about. As long as you follow the rules and aren’t offensive everyone has the right to look at the situation and offer an opinion. Really no one is wrong here because none of us made the choice to bring this man into the league. I salute the Rider fans they are a loyal bunch but some need to remember that those of us that cheer for other teams are loyal as well. Also if it wasn’t for all of us fanatics the league would not exist no matter whom you cheer for. On that note to my point! The league is ultimately to blame here. If there policy is zero tolerance than when the Riders went to sign him the league should have stepped in and said no! League policy! Now that is just my opinion.

  29. I really believe that Chris Jones has to take some responsibility here. You want to talk about repeat offenders, Jones has not just signed Cox, but how about Khalif Mitchell and would have brought in Greg Hardy if the CFL had not stopped him. Not to mention the stoner QB he has on the neg list and went to see work out last week. I think it is time the Rider board of directors took control of Jones and put him on a short leash. I remember when Jones came to the Riders and stated that he was going to bring in nice guys who just happen to be good football players. Instead we have convicted felons who just happen to be good football players. Nice guys and good football players are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps he has to turn over a few more stones to find them. Perhaps the Riders need to turn over a few stones to find a coach/GM who is a nice guy and a good football mind.

    • Ladd Law // April 21, 2017 at 5:50 pm //

      You know it’s funny you mention stoner QB. There are some in the know who think the dealer Taj dropped a couple of summers ago was to insulate his QB. Maybe that’s more to the reasons he’s not a Rider any more.

      • I’ve not heard any of this story, but it sounds interesting… Care to elaborate?

        • Ladd Law // April 25, 2017 at 5:15 pm //

          Not here. Only to say I’ve got contacts close to the team and the real story never made it out – according this them. I’m wondering if it made it’s way to Jones and had an impact on how he decided to negotiate. We will probably never know.

  30. Solara2000 // April 20, 2017 at 11:00 pm //

    Simple. A conviction – not an allegation – means contract nullified and/or ineligible to play in CFL. An agreed article in all CFL contracts.

  31. JsBODEEN redblacks // April 20, 2017 at 11:22 pm //

    Anybody want to discuss football instead? Be much more name calling aloud

  32. mrnehnehincognito // April 20, 2017 at 11:22 pm //

    I think we can all agree we are all passionate fans!

  33. Cox had 2 strikes against him from the NFL and the KC Chiefs. He certyainly needs HELP but he got CALLED OUT with the final 3rd strike coming from the Riders. Maybe a 9 to 5 job at average wages plus a little time in the slammer will turn him around and wake him up to how he is hurting others in addition to himself. Cudos to the Riders for reacting as they did in a expedient manner.

  34. Rick cowan // April 21, 2017 at 7:05 am //

    Ya you are right but Stampland will find something wrong with the way the Riders handled the situation if it was a Stamp s player there would be nothing wrong he never says anything good about the Riders

  35. Mr Curling thinks the Riders should never have released Cox before he is convicted, just watch, he’ll be acquitted and the Stampeders will sign him in an instant

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 9:52 am //

      lol really Mr Curling? Well since you brought it up
      Lets me honest here whats more likely?

      Even if stamps were willing to look past his indiscretions (with they’re not) the stamps simply don’t need the player. Strong lineup throughout as usual and if they did have a need they would fill from within as usual. So this is highly unlikely .

      We still don’t know the story with Campbell. It is possible Stamps will choose to release him. Maybe because of off field issues or possibly because Stamps will find a young hungry unknown corner who proves to be better! Gee that’s never happened in Calgary before! see Fred Bennett at corner or Taylor Reed at LB last year!
      If Tommie Campbell was released would it be out of Character for Chris Jones to be trolling ready to pick up a Stamp reject? OF COURSE NOT! See Buddy Jackson,Fred Bennett…. and that’s just at Corner!….should I go on with the list!

  36. mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 9:16 am //

    Rick and Mr Curling
    No one condones what Cox or Campbell did but you guys are so enraged with anger and jealousy you can’t see clear and are missing the entire point. This problem can be quickly fixed. Say bye bye to you know who.
    I wonder if the board of directors are expressing regret of buyers remorse behind closed doors?

  37. I agree. Always tough to draw the dividing line: can’t reject everyone with past problems, but need to be based in the 21st century too. I admit it’s a judgment call, and hindsight is easy, but I think the Riders went too far, and got this one wrong. The league needs to keep being (more) progressive on this too.

  38. Strong lineup throughout? Mr Curling thinks Stamps had a strong lineup but after trading Tate you went from the best QB tandem in the league to being 1 injury to Levi away from being a year behind the Riders, ouch thats gotta sting

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 10:48 am //

      and riders are 0 QB injuries away away from being behind every team in the league.

    • Bob knows. // April 21, 2017 at 11:47 am //

      Hey Vegerville boy… Name me the starting QB for the riders… oh wait, they don’t have one. Ouch, that has GOT to sting.

      • I really think Kevin Glenn starts the season for us.

        • Bob knows. // April 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm //

          KG is always a good backup QB, but I don’t think he will be your starter for long. Or if he is, it may be a very long season for rider fans.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 12:48 pm //

          With a good team around him Kevin Glenn can be slightly better than average. However the O-line is a big concern with it’s lack of national Personnel.

  39. mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 12:37 pm //

    For Vince Young to simply show only to be released will make this look like a cheap publicity stunt. Because of the associated politics he will be given every chance,2nd chance and 3rd chance to stick around and play. He will be forced in whether he’s ready or not. I doubt anything about this turns out good.

  40. Patience // April 21, 2017 at 1:35 pm //

    Agreed about Vince Young. Jones will be reluctant to release him because he hates to admit that he was wrong. Jones is strangely silent lately. In the pressure cooker perhaps?

    • I don’t think he will be. Young has got a very Rider friendly contract, no up front money etc. If he doesn’t pan out, Jones punts him. Like Jones or hate him, he’s all business, and this will be strictly business.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 1:49 pm //

      Jones is running out of off season days to hide behind. The days of reckoning are near!

  41. Patience // April 21, 2017 at 1:38 pm //

    The Riders are proving that any publicity is not always good. The BOD have to be getting tired of all the negative publicity that Jones has spawned in the last year.

    • mrnehnehincognito // April 21, 2017 at 1:55 pm //

      Not to mention he threw them under the bus last year when he refused to take responsibility for his roster violations. He left them holding the bag at a press conference I remember.

      • Why do you have such a hate against Jones? You are constantly berating and condemming the man. Honestly, what did he ever do to you? So what if he has done what he has done…that means you need to include him in every subject or category here? Give the man a break already. Enough is enough…really.

        • mrnehnehincognito // April 22, 2017 at 11:44 pm //

          Don’t read it then!

          • Ladd Law // April 25, 2017 at 5:18 pm //

            You are kind of hard to avoid as you seem adamant to bash the Riders at every turn. So what ever comes your way in the way of complaints, seem justly deserved.

  42. so how again did Cox “blow his second chance?” He was never convicted of domestic violence, only charged. This time, he has still only been charged. Our whole justice system is based on, innocent until proven guilty, Chris Jones is the only one who stands by that above all you hypocrites on here. Far as I can tell Cox never got any chance, and he should sue the CFL for blocking his right to earn a living, he’d win

  43. Allison, please explain to me why your beloved Edmonton Eskimos gave Eric Tilleman a “second chance” after he sexually assaulted a minor? Please inform all of us with a kindly response regarding the Edmonton Eskimos organization.

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