Calgary quarterback accuses Riders of cheating

Calgary Stampeders quarterback Bo Levi Mitchell insinuated that the Saskatchewan Roughriders play fast and loose with CFL roster rules in a series of tweets Tuesday night. Mitchell started it with this Tweet linking to Saskatchewan’s bevy of roster moves earlier in the day…

Needless to say, this got the easily antagonized patrons of Rider Nation all riled up. A sampling…

But Mitchell stuck to his guns…

And he took some more crap from Rider fans…

And gave it right back…

This was a good one…

When you end a tweet with your jersey number, that is the hot fire emoji.

Mitchell seems to be insinuating that the Riders have players practicing with the club that aren’t on the roster. Teams are limited to a 46-man active roster and a ten player practice roster. Players on the one-game injured list can practice as well.

The Riders were also fined $15,000 for violating the CFL’s ratio rules during a July 16 game against the B.C. Lions. The league requires that teams play seven Canadians on offence or defence during the entire game.

In related news, the Riders host Calgary on Saturday…

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108 Comments on Calgary quarterback accuses Riders of cheating

  1. Phil Nicholson // August 9, 2016 at 9:47 pm //

    Well, gotta side with Mitchell on this one. The league already caught the Riders cheating and fined them accordingly. Where there’s smoke there’s fire.

  2. J. Vernie // August 9, 2016 at 9:57 pm //

    I love it Bo. The truth stings and they don’t like it
    My instincts always said that so called leader of theirs is a stinky little apple. He’s the one doing anything to get a win. Not the fans.

  3. RIDER FAN // August 9, 2016 at 10:22 pm //

    How bout tell mr. Bovine to shut his mouth and worry bout his own team!! PROVE THAT THE RIDERS ARE CHEATING OR GO AWAY! ..Show a little class Mitchell!

    • He’s Mr Equine actually – the Stampeders are horses not cows…

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 9:10 am //

      You’re asking him to show ” a little class” while you insult him for simply imparting the truth.

      You seem to be the one lacking “class” here.

      But that is the way of most greenie fans here.

      Once again, you people come across as immature and bitter.

  4. CowtownDave // August 9, 2016 at 10:37 pm //

    Nah, Chris Jones wouldn’t cheat.

  5. Glenn Chupik // August 9, 2016 at 11:03 pm //

    Without the Rider fans there would be no CFL, have you checked your fan support lately? Who fills your stadiums? So much so that you don’t allow the Riders to play on weekends anymore. Bo Levi is Green with envy which is why he loves tweeting about the Riders. Sea of Green in Calgary, you will never get rid of us! love the CFL! And the Riders!

    • Um…no. You hardly fill the stadium when the Riders come play, and even if you did…the money all goes to the Stamps. So thanks!

  6. Billinburlington // August 9, 2016 at 11:30 pm //

    With debate about the merits of replay challenges, Duron Carter knocking over the coach, Sask being fined, Henry Burris reaming out his critics and now Bo Levi Mitchell’s accusations, this crankiness is making for a really interesting CFL season and we are not even 1/2 way through it.

    • First place // August 9, 2016 at 11:43 pm //

      All you cheating riders fans can shut up! Bo burned you on the field, burned ya online now he’s gonna burn you again! Stamps be #1

  7. Crystal Dumonceaux // August 10, 2016 at 12:20 am //

    1. If the Riders are not playing by the rules, according to the Stampeder QB, why bring it up on social media? If he has proof, then the logical thing to do would be to present his evidence to the league, and let them investigate.
    2. The fine against the Riders is not proof of cheating. It was a costly mistake. The CFL had the choice of fining or some other sanction. They chose to fine the Riders. That’s their choice. Move on.
    3. I watch all the games, whenever I can. Everyone has a choice in who they cheer for. I cheer for the Riders. It’s just disappointing to see other fans bash us for being passionate. Then again, I’m sure that there are many Rider fans that could do a better job of representing Rider Nation. It would be nice if we all aspired to a higher level of respect. We all love the CFL. Why not show it?

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 8:01 am //

      Like going over the salary cap in 2013 was a mistake….like when Chris Jones skipped town and his contract with Calgary to go to Toronto….one cheater in a cheating town…birds of a feather….

      • Crystal Dumonceaux // August 10, 2016 at 8:17 am //

        I believe other teams have been fined over the years for going over the salary cap. This is a moot point. If it didn’t happen to your team, why are you so worried about ours? They were fined. Move on.
        The Riders live in a fishbowl in Regina. There is media everywhere. We are one of the smallest markets, per capita, in the CFL. Do you not think that if the team were housing extra bodies, holding extra practices/meetings, that it would go unnoticed? Give your heads a shake.
        Lastly, the players would be complicit in this kind of cover-up. The Stampeder QB is basically saying that Darian Durant and Rob Bagg are liars and cheats. Pretty sure these are men of integrity, playing for their paycheques, just like the Stampeder QB plays for his. Only difference -they aren’t ignorant and spouting off inane and unsubstantiated allegations on social media.
        Oh, and if the allegations were going the other way, damn straight the fans of that team would be asking for proof. They would be just as upset as this fan base. Wow, stop thinking that ya’ll wouldn’t. The fact that we’re all talking about this social media drivel shows that we are all protective of our teams.

        • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 11:29 am //

          That’s because the greenies got the grey cup that year…like they didn’t have enough advantages already…their cheating does affect other teams’ opportunities to win…give your head a shake!!! Fine doesn’t do anything for the Hamilton fans who got jobbed.

          like a person caught lying….once they’ve done it once..they’ll likely do it again….and the greenies have been caught twice before…how do you trust that it won’t happen again…or trust when they say they didn’t…

          Mitchell isn’t usually one to point fingers. And with the greenies history of breaking the rules…someone needs to speak up on behalf of the other fans in the league.

          Yeah, I’m protective of my teams equal opportunities to win and compete. Especially, when there’s another bunch of cheaters (greenies) who flaunt the same rules and deny my team’s FAIR chance to win.

          Clean up your act, Greenies.

          • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 11:46 am //

            By the way, greenies exceeded the salary cap in 2007 as well. Same year they got the grey cup…

            I see a trend here….

          • LochTess54 // August 10, 2016 at 10:11 pm //

            I guess my first comment was too late. You are a moron. The TiCats did not get jobbed in 2013 – you got your ass kicked in the Grey Cup by a superior team. In the CFL, going over the cap isn’t cheating because it’s a soft cap with a luxury tax like baseball and basketball. If the CFL had a hard cap like the NFL and they went over the cap that would be cheating.

            Dummy up.

      • LochTess54 // August 10, 2016 at 10:07 pm //

        Are you a moron? The Riders aren’t the only team to have ever gone over the cap. Do some research before you say more stupid things.

    • It seems the league found the proof needed to levy a fine.

  8. Want some cheese with your whine Mitchell,grow up. What a dumb ass,I hope you guys lose

  9. There would be no CFL without the Riders. Holly Brain washed. Go ahead and leave the CFL and prove that the Riders and it’s degrading fans are the CFL. The only reason their are so many Riders fans is because they have nothing else to cheat for nothing…. It’s the only team they have, oh and Curling.

    • We bring in more money to the CFL than ALL other teams COMBINED… Tell me again how well the league would do without us? There LITERALLY would be NO CFL if not for the RIDERS! Get your head out of your ass bud.. Its not our fault you choose to cheer for the WRONG TEAM! LOL! And in all actuality.. the reason there are so many Rider fans.. is because we STICK WITH OUR TEAM.. unlike the bandwagon jumpers around the rest of the league.. Don’t believe me? When is the last time you saw another team with such a poor record SELL OUT EVERY GAME? Stop hating us cause you ain’t us!

      • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 11:39 am //

        So, because the greenies make some money, they should allowed them to cheat???

        There was a time when your team did not play so well and attendance was not so good. Your blindness to the truth is telling. You must have the same revisionist history problem as Burris. And he used to play there. Says it all.

        You’re “hated” because your franchise cheats. And no, I wouldn’t want to be you, even on your best day!!!

  10. Glad you’re speaking up Bo. The league needs to be on top of what is happening with all teams and not take over two weeks to notice a rule infraction. Players can know what’s going on without having proof.

  11. Hmmmm…nothing else to cheer for?!? We have the 2x NLL Champions in our Province now…GOOOOOOO SASK RUSH!!!

  12. I don’t understand the Rider fan demands for proof. It’s not like they weren’t fined for this very thing last week.

    • perhaps if you were paying attention the fine was for the ratio being out on 2 plays while an injured play sat out his 3 plays. Could have happen to any team. They subbed the national player with an international which threw off the ratio for those few plays… talk about over reaction

    • LochTess54 // August 10, 2016 at 10:15 pm //

      Glad you can post a link but it’s too bad you didn’t read it first.

      The fine was because they had an American go into the game for a Canadian. Jones wasn’t trying to cheat – they screwed up their roster and didn’t have the proper depth to cover properly due to injury. If it was a serious manipulation they would have fined the team a hell of a lot more than $10k.

  13. Terry Johns // August 10, 2016 at 2:00 am //

    People wake up, players always do stuff like this to try and get under not only the fans skin but the skin of the players as well. Most of it is trash talk and means nothing, Calgary is Calgary and ole Bo is an American, that should explain it all….I am a Bomber fan and take all the fun ribbing with a grain of salt, but to accuse another team of cheating without proof and on social media seems to me a bit much…..Riders, just beat them that will shut them up……

  14. Every team in the CFL does the exact same thing.

    Anyone who believes otherwise is totally naive.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 11:42 am //

      Do you have anything other than this lame statement to back it up??

      Hmmm. Didn’t think so.

  15. Chopper11 // August 10, 2016 at 9:53 am //

    So Evan, you are admitting that they are doing it? Sounds like it. I don’t believe every team does it. I don’t believe I’m naïve either. It may be true or it may not, I don’t know that but there must be a reason he’s saying it and I don’t think he is just trying to ruffle feathers. I also don’t think the riders will win this weekend or the one after.

  16. Yes, I guarantee that they are doing it.

    I have no issue saying that because every team does it.
    Every team works out FAs after practice, some more often than others. Every team has guys who hang around waiting for a spot to open up on the PR or the active roster. They get paid under the table as some type of “miscellaneous expense” and wait. Reality of the real world.

    And yes, BLM is just trying to create some hype. Not a bad thing, hype sells tickets and gets people to turn on the TV.

    And no, the Riders probably won’t win a game for the rest of the season.
    Worst defence in CFL history. Again.

  17. Steve Bolton // August 10, 2016 at 11:05 am //

    Anyone who thinks the Riders float the entire CFL need a test on your brain and all who say the Riders dont cheat explain why they have been fined already for cheating SMH

  18. Hillbilly Mitchell just another Stump in a long line of classless donkeys they have had.

    • Wait, a Riders fan is calling the Stamps classless? How about the Riders turning a blind eye to assault charges against Dwight Anderson and Taj Smith? How about Darian Durant calling his fans dumb you-know-whats? How about the constant bending of the rules and holier-than-thou attitude the organization shows – not to mention the arrogance?

      It’s funny you say that…especially when a Stamps player (a good one at that) was charged with assault, he was released the next day…

  19. CowtownDave // August 10, 2016 at 11:43 am //

    Ironic that Bo is being called a “Hillbilly” by Rider fans.

  20. This seems to be an idiotic discussion, there is no proof of any wrong doing on the part of the Riders but go back in history a bit and see if anyone can remember “taxi” squads. These were players who were driving cabs and put on the roster if they were needed, every team had them. To suggest that is a person lies once they will always lie is a rather fanatical comment, sounds like guilty until proven innocent…..most of this column is bullshit, but it should make the game interesting, unfortunately I see a serious injury in Bovine’s future…….

  21. LIke he is not cheating when he is playing with a contract that is 2 hundred thousand less then any starting QB. GIve me a break. Call a spade a spade Bo what ever.

  22. Tillman and Austin did the exact same thing in Regina when they won the GC in 2007.

    To think that now they have moved to Hamilton they’re suddenly the most ethical and rule abiding pair in the CFL is pure fantasy.

    If you believe that, I also have a bridge I can sell you. Cash only.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 3:15 pm //

      Have they done wrong in Hamilton???

      But the Riders have been caught twice in the last 3 years….

      just because the greenies have no ethics, it doesn’t mean everyone else should be painted with the same brush..

  23. News flash for all you bonehead Stamp fans. Every single team does this, you guys didnt seem to mind when Murphy was doing the same thing while working for your organization, so why is this an issue now?
    And BTW if it wasnt for the Riders you guys would never sell out a single game. The Riders are good for your bottom line. You guys should be thanking them every chance you get

  24. Oh, and if you want to talk about cheating, those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones:

    At least when other teams cheat, they win a GC.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 8:40 am //

      Your cheating has gone on long after they left, and Austin was only there for the one year. He’s a convenient scape goat.

      Heck, you were caught cheatin in the 2009 grey cup putting in a 13th man. Some felt sorry for you guys then. Fortunately, then your cheatin cost you. But you didn’t learn from it.

      History has proven that your cheating was not a one shot deal.

  25. As a Rider fan I’m not impressed with trick last week by bringing in Johnny Marks for one game and then cutting him on the Monday after. Tyler is out injured. You couldn’t keep him? And he’s Canadian too!

    • LochTess54 // August 10, 2016 at 10:23 pm //

      Hey Dale.

      They had to pick up a CDN kicker to fill in for Crapigna after he got injured. They cut Marks because the rookie CDN kicker the Riders drafted in the early rounds this year was eligible to come off the 6-game injured list in time for this Saturday.

      No smoke here.

  26. T. Reardon // August 10, 2016 at 2:14 pm //

    With the words ‘cheating’ and ‘Stampeders’ in the same sentence |I thought the story was going to be about the whistles in the crowd at McMahon last week. Funny thing, they only blew when the Riders were on defense.

    • I think you mean when the Riders were on offense and the play clock was down to around 3 or 4 seconds. Funny timing for a fan to start blowing a whistle, wasn’t it?

  27. Brian Lazorko // August 10, 2016 at 2:27 pm //

    Enough with childish idiots crying “cheaters” at the Riders. Has your team ever been penalized? Filthy cheaters! SMH.

  28. Sask roughriders. The only team that needs to cheat to lose. Seems legit.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 3:18 pm //

      No, the greenies are a team so desperate to win …it thinks it has to cheat..yeah …that seems legit…

  29. Hillbilly Mitchell // August 10, 2016 at 2:32 pm //

    The Stumps the biggest team full of d-bags from top to bottom.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 10, 2016 at 3:23 pm //

      Let’s see.. Calgary at the top of the western standing and the greenies at the bottom…

      Calgary not cheating and the greenies caught cheating twice and possibly a third time…

      I would hardly call the Stamps dbags…now the low riders …well the shoe fits here..

      • LochTess54 // August 10, 2016 at 10:27 pm //


        What is this twice you keep chirping about? They got a very small fine for a ratio issue on 3 plays during a mandated timeout period for an injured player.

        If you’re referring to the cap again you’re a total idiot. As pointed out earlier. Salary Cap is not a real cap. It’s actually a luxury tax. Salary caps don’t fine you for going over – you can’t go over. Do some research pal.

        • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 1:57 pm //

          from Wikipedia:

          “The NFL’s cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times, and the salary floor is also a hard floor; penalties for violating or circumventing the cap and floor regulations include fines of up to $5 million for each violation, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks.”

          Wanna try again….perhaps your reading skills needs to be improved….

          • lochtess54 // August 11, 2016 at 2:15 pm //

            Robin, you’re severely stupid. Hard cap, soft cap. Yes there are penalties and fines if you go over the hard cap because it is HARD. Soft cap is merely a financial penalty with no other severe repercussions unless you go over by more than $100k.

            Don’t bother replying to me with any other of your stupidity. You either don’t understand how breaking the cap in the NFL has actual consequences vs the CFL merely says tsk tsk give me money (unless you severely go over which the riders have only done once ever due to mega injuries.)

            You seriously are a meathead.

  30. CowtownDave // August 10, 2016 at 2:34 pm //

    Saskatchewan… Develop coping skills. You’re a ‘pro’.

  31. Would love to seen this turd smashed into the turf for the rest of the season and for the rest of his career.

  32. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha…just keep hating… maybe bo could call his old pal John Murphy and they can straighten this all out

  33. Vicky(from another city) // August 10, 2016 at 5:10 pm //

    Hey Robin from THEcity – bet you were one of those thousands of Stump fans that left the game early two weeks ago…..or you probably didn’t even go….Too busy posting garbage all over the internet. Get a life.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 8:46 am //

      And the salary cap is a RULE and therefore needs to be adhered to like any other.

      Calling it soft is an excuse that greenies fan use to make themselves feel better about cheating on their way to the grey cup.

      Once again, greenie fans can’t discuss anything without hurling insults.

      So, besides being cheaters…you’re immature.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 8:53 am //

      No, I wasn’t one of those because I don’t live in that part of the country. But, don’t let your lack of facts get in the way of your ridiculous insult.

      Once again a greenies fan who needs honesty and maturity.

  34. Don’t worry “stamps fans”, the only reason the Riders are losing is because the other teams need all of you band wagon jumpers to make the league more popular. The Riders already sell 75% of the CFL gear they need to start selling other teams gear. Pathetic….

  35. Ladies and gentlemen, here you can see the Whiner in his natural habitat – Calgary, with too much time on its hands, and a social media account.

    Scientists are perplexed as to the motivation behind the Whiner’s whining, considering that (1) it casts the Whiner’s entire league in a bad light, and (2) the team being whined about is in last place and, therefore, appears to pose no threat to the Whiner. One theory is that the Whiner experiences a tinge of jealousy when it enters Mosaic Stadium and is reminded that the opposing fanbase is significantly more supportive of their team than the fanbase in the Whiner’s own habitat (where Rider fans make up a substantial portion of the crowd). An alternate theory is that the Whiner suffers from a debilitating case of superiority/inferiority complex which it self-treats by deflecting negative attention on others.

    It’s not clear what factors cause a star quarterback to become a whiner. Several quarterbacks (Calvillo, Ray, Durant, Reilly) have achieved star status in classy fashion without degrading into whiners. It appears that this case is exceptional.

    Whatever the reason, scientists agree that it’s best to ignore the Whiner, as it seems to thrive when given attention.

  36. Barbara Soucie // August 10, 2016 at 7:11 pm //

    Interesting how the Stamps are calling us liars and cheaters yet when the went to Toronto in 2012 they went because they cheated. An offside call that was never called enabled a catch that gave them the game. The interesting this is this play is the play of the year, if you watch carefully, the receiver is 3 yards past the line of scrimmage and the ball is still on the field. To all the whiny players, I watch the game because i love it and it takes a real man to play in the CFL. If you want to be a whiny wimpy man go play in the NFL

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 9:02 am //

      What about your 13th man inserted into the 2009 grey cup.

      That against the rules. Therefore, cheating.

      Classic pot caling the kettle black.

      • @Robin You are so ridiculous I cannot stop myself from commenting, do you have a clue what you are talking about? I am not a riders fan but honestly what is wrong with you, nothing you have said makes any sense……..You know that the Stumps are the biggest cheaters around, they have wrote the book on under the table contracts etc. etc. etc…..The only thing really going on here is that Jones has made a few people mad along the way like maybe Ed Hervey or someone and they spend many hours going through the BC Saskatchewan game and looked for the evidence of not enough Canadians on the field, forwarded it to the CFL and then let the whiners whine…..Every team has done this(played not enough Canadians) but didn’t have enough haters to get the evidence and send it to the CFL..Give it a rest Robin and say something intellectual not ignorant.

        • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 12:42 pm //

          And what proof do you have that the stamps are what you are accusing them of…we just take your word for it??

          And again, what proof do you have that other teams are doing this??

          Now, who is being ridiculous??

  37. Hope some one smacks that pathetic pube beard off his face Saturday!

  38. Maybe Bo, is just mad that he has to wear that uniform. He’s not good enough for NFL and he sure isn’t good enough for Rider nation. Him and John Cornish are made for each other! If the riders were cheating you’d think the league would see it before a twat like Bo!

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 8:59 am //

      The greenies have done so much cheatin over the years that the league should be watching them more closely.

      Thank goodness for the rest of us fans, Bo is.

      Let’s see, Bo is playing for a first place that’s heading for another grey cup, and he should be upset, according to you, that he is not instead suffering in an ugly uniform playing for a last place team going nowhere.


      You should be upset that your thought made it to this forum.

  39. Remember the Larry Rickman days CAlgary fans? Flutie still hasn’t been paid what was owed. Talk about a classless organization

  40. If the league finds out that the Riders are circumventing the rules, then they should be disciplined. If they aren’t doing anything wrong, then BLM should be fined by the league for his accusations.

  41. Wow. I’m keeping an open mind about this, but all I have to say is that Burris inadvertently picked a good week to have his rant… attention TOTALLY diverted. 🙂

  42. Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 8:28 am //

    “I guess my first comment was too late. You are a moron. The TiCats did not get jobbed in 2013 – you got your ass kicked in the Grey Cup by a superior team. In the CFL, going over the cap isn’t cheating because it’s a soft cap with a luxury tax like baseball and basketball. If the CFL had a hard cap like the NFL and they went over the cap that would be cheating.”

    When you’re fined for doing something wrong, it’s CHEATING. Soft or hard, it’s still a rule intended to be followed. It’s the fourth time in seven years that this cheatin team have exceeded the salary cap.

    That’s hardly a mistake.

    Perhaps, you should focus on fixin your cheating ways instead of insulting those who are simply pointing out the truth.

    But that would take honesty that you bunch just don’t have.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 9:15 am //

      With the salary cap came a stacked team, that you would not have been able to afford without the violation. So, yes, Hamilton was jobbed.

      I guess that is too hard for you to understand. But, that’s OK others will need to educate you.

  43. Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 9:41 am //

    From the Calgary Herald…

    “According to multiple sources, the Riders have been keeping a contingent of players on hand that they’re calling the “pre-practice squad.”

    It wouldn’t be a problem if they were just asking players to stick around Regina and be ready in case of an injury.

    What has riled up a number of people behind the scenes, however, is they’ve been housing them, feeding them, putting them through on-field workouts and even having some of them attend meetings, according to sources.

    The league is already on the case, checking into potential roster and salary cap violations.

    “We’re aware of the allegations and are looking into it,” said Paulo Senra, the CFL’s director of communications.”

    If you read this carefully…the concern comes “multiple sources”
    and “a number of people behind the scenes”.

    The fact that the league is “already on the case”, indicates that this is more than just one player’s accusations.

    So, getting mad and insulting Bo Levi Mitchell isn’t going to make your cheating go away. There are a greater number that have their concerns about yet ANOTHER greenies rule violation.

  44. Lochtess54 // August 11, 2016 at 10:15 am //

    Robin, you’re a clown.

    Using your demented logic, other soft caps like baseball’s and basketball’s means that 1/4 of the NBA is cheating and the LA Dodgers are presently the biggest cheaters of all time as they’re significantly over the limit.

    You’re clearly a troll. The 13th man was not cheating by definition as that implies intent but your simple mind can’t understand these things.

    Take your insult of choice: the “greenies.” How long did it take you to figure that one out? Are the Lions the orangies and the stamps the reddies? What complex system have you created when a team has two primary colours? Your vitriol towards a team and a group of fans is pathetic.

    Are you sure you’re not a Roughriders fan? While most are great people there are a few that are incredibly shitty, so you would fit right in.

  45. Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 1:23 pm //

    What is the point of having a cap, if it’s ignored…might as well not even have one…

    This team has been caught more than once cheating on the rules. As I’ve pointed previously, they’ve violated the cap 4 of the seven years.

    If you violate the rules, you’re cheating. When a player holds or grabs a receiver’s jersey…he doesn’t know he’s cheating…

    Again, the name calling…so immature…

    Amyone can join in on these threads…trolling ..hardly…but please let’s have more of insults and factless accusations…

    A greenies fan…I think I’ve already made that clear if you could read….

    • lochtess54 // August 11, 2016 at 1:31 pm //

      You’re right…what is the point in having a cap if it’s not enforced…which it isn’t. It’s a suggested cap that merely fines teams and redistributes the money if you go over it (which intelligent people understand is a luxury tax). The real salary cap is something that you can’t go over because you’re unable to sign other players without releasing others (ie the NFL). For someone who purports to be reasonable, you sure can’t get that through your head.

      As far as the name-calling, I haven’t called you anything I wouldn’t say to your face. You’re clearly a moron.

      • Robin (from THE city) // August 11, 2016 at 2:37 pm //

        You said earlier that there is no fine under a salary cap. The NFL cap, which is a salary cap, does provide for fines and the removal of draft choices…something you said earlier doesn’t happen.

        But you’re not standing in front of me now….yeah easy enough for you to do…though pretty cowardly on your part….

        • Lochtess54 // August 11, 2016 at 5:30 pm //

          I did say it doesn’t happen. Name an instance when the NFL has fined a team or docked draft picks for breaking the cap. It doesn’t happen but they can penalize if they do.

          CFL it does happen because it’s a soft cap where if you have cash it doesn’t really impact anyone.

          You are beyond idiotic troll.

          • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 8:14 am //

            And now they find that the greenies DID cheat….yet again….

            You guys just can’t help yourself…

            You said that “Salary caps don’t fine you for going over – you can’t go over.”

            From ESPN…”But Tuesday, on the website that teams use to chart other teams’ cap situations, the league has deducted $18 million from the Redskins and $5 million from the Cowboys this year.”

            From the Russell Street Report….”There have been a couple of instances where teams were discovered to have agreed to payments to players that circumvented the Salary Cap. The Pittsburgh Steelers and San Francisco 49ers were penalized draft picks and fined for agreeing to undisclosed, non-contract payments to players.”

            Care to try yet again….I guess you really don’t read very well….coward!!

  46. CowtownDave // August 11, 2016 at 1:24 pm //

    Chris Jones – you guys made your bed. And to think you were irritating beforehand. No more telethons for sure.

  47. Robin we didn’t “insert” the 13th man to try and cheat. It was a mistake and we paid for it. It’s a penalty. You are a moron! Every team try’s to cheat every game I guess because according to you every time someone gets a penalty it’s cheating. Do you even watch football? Scum

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 8:18 am //

      And how do you know…were you there on the sidelines…of course the team will say it’s unintentional…this is the same team that’s been caught more than twice cheating on the rules….

      easy for you to think that…other fans around the league may not be so convinced..fortunately you lost that the cheating was not of benefit….

  48. Reports now say the Riders are working out as many as 95 players and over 60 have been present at practice. Mitchell outed the Riders’ dirty little secret and now of Rider Nation is labelling him as a “whiner”. Shame on the Regina press for failing to investigate and report what should have been quite evident, making a player do their work for them. Obviously, some people believe that winning is more important than fairness and integrity.

  49. Why do people keep saying the CFL has a “soft cap”? Leagues with a “soft cap” use the cap, or “luxury tax”, as a means of equalization of revenue between teams. The CFL does not use a salary cap tax to equalize revenue. It simply has a penalty that is a joke unless the cap is exceeded by a large amount, at which time draft picks are lost. An intentional violation of rules by any franchise with respect to roster or salary cap seriously undermines the league and frankly makes the team and the league appear unprofessional.

  50. Love how when some people’s teams repeatedly have trouble following simple rules, they lament that those rules are “stupid”. The ratio rules are very important for the development of Canadian football players and programs, and are the main reason why the CFL is more than a feeder league for the NFL. The salary cap and roster rules are intended to prevent clubs from simply buying a championship. The biggest problem with the rules is that they don’t have enough bite to be truly punitive to cheaters who undermine the integrity of the league.

  51. There is no truth here Mr. Bo, it is your interpretation of the rules nothing more, seems that you believe your interpretation is the correct one, makes laugh. People seem to think that if you show up to a practice you are somehow part of that team, a friend of mine who’s son plays in the CFL goes to all the practices not sure that makes him part of the team. Bo is an American cast off who is trying to make a name for himself here in Canada and do it anyway he can, by hook or by crook and so many of you have fallen for it……btw penalties are just that penalties because of mistakes made by a team or a coach if it was considered cheating every team in the league would be fined for cheating every game…I suggest that the ignorant posters shut up before they remove all doubt about how stupid they really are…………..

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 8:21 am //

      Seems you need to read the paper today. Bo is right, as most who aren’t greenie fans have believed all along.

      Once a cheater …always a cheater…Really quite sad that you need to resort to such cheap tactics…

  52. Jones is a blight on a proud and storied franchise and on the league. He has shown an utter lack of respect for the rules, for contracts he has signed, and for competitors (habitual refusal to shake hands with the opposing coach if he loses). The Riders should fire him before this cancer spreads to the whole franchise. And the league should ban him for his repeated violations, its ongoing tolerance of him also makes the CFL look unprofessional.

    • CowtownDave // August 12, 2016 at 8:52 am //

      Chris Jones will kill all the goodwill that the Riders used to enjoy in this league.

  53. Just to be clear, I respect the Riders’ true fans, but I think Jones is a self-entitled unsportsmanlike unethical habitual cheater who has no respect for anyone other or anything, and I have a problem with those who cover up for him, make excuses for him, or criticize a player who points out the cheating.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 10:17 am //

      Yes, Mac, but the sad truth is that this legacy of cheating has gone on before Jones’ arrival and will likely go on after he’s gone.

      I, too, have respect for those who can see past their own team’s unethical behaviour to the betterment of the league. But, judging by the balance on this blog, those Rider fans appear to be few in number.

      I used to have an admiration for this franchise, but after hearing and reading about their continuing dishonourable behaviour, I have nothing but contempt for them. I simply don’t like cheating.

      They crapped all over Bo, said some really nasty things. As it turned out, he was right. Those same people who accused are now too cowardly to apologize.

      They do a great disservice to themselves and their community with this kind of misdirected resolve.

      Hard to like people like this.

      • Robin, if I may…

        I think a lot of people (not just Rider fans) took exception to Bo because his tweets were, at best, tasteless and unclassy trash talk that’s not typical for a starting CFL QB (dedicating the next game to Riders fans and calling their hate the “fuel” that he needs) and, at worst, unprofessional and out-of-line (unsolicited disparaging comments about another organization that prematurely brought an ongoing investigation into public scrutiny). Whether or not his comments were true have NOTHING to do with whether they were appropriate. Similar to Henry Burris after his rant about the TSN panel on live TV, Bo Levi Mitchell needs to learn that there is a time and a place for that sort of talk. Professional football players, especially starting quarterbacks who are the face of the franchise and face of Canadian football, can and should be held to a higher standard by their respective teams and the league when it comes to TV and social media.

        I believe that’s why he’s been “crapped on” by fans. People were angry (and rightly so) because his use of social media was uncalled for. Yes, his comments are backed up by facts, but they were unbecoming of a professional athlete in any sport and he does not deserve to be praised as some kind of martyr or hero for “bringing the cheating to the light for the betterment of the league”. Clearly the CFL was already aware and investigating, and I highly doubt BLM’s comments played into their decision. BLM didn’t stand to gain or lose anything from his comments, other than interfering with an ongoing investigation and casting it in a light that made him look like the hero.

        Now, several people overstepped in their retaliation, with name-calling, hoping he gets injured, etc. That too is out-of-line and unclassy, but please trust me when I say that those words are coming from the vocal minority of Riders fans, rather than the majority of us. I don’t think that the Rider fans who visit these forums are an accurate representation of Rider fans in general. I know that 100% of Rider Nation and the Roughriders Franchise does NOT endorse cheating and is NOT okay with Chris Jones (or whoever is ultimately responsible) bringing the organization into a bad light in this way.

        • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 1:13 pm //

          Thank you, Craig, for your thoughtful response.

          But I disagree with you on a few points.

          The difference, as I see it, between what Bo stated as opposed to what Burris said was that, at the base of it, Bo’s belief of what the Riders did was true. Burris’ statement that he was solely responsible for the turnaround of 4 CFL teams is a flat out lie. If you read Josh Smith’s blog on the subject, you will find out why.

          I didn’t read any other tweets by Bo at the time.

          If Bo levi had not taken this step, would have it been found out? While the manner in which he did it may have been improper, his alarm to the rest of the league about the illegal activities of the Riders was a service to the rest of the teams and their fans.

          The league may have already been investigating this, but Bo’s writing brought a much greater awareness.

          Perhaps, other teams do similar things. But, hiding 95 paid players is way greater a concern!!

          I would suggest that the ONLY people that might have been angry at Bo would be those in Regina. And for what their team did, they have a right to be angry? I would say NOT.

          I doubt very much that what he tweeted did anything to any ongoing investigation. The fact that the league agreed and supervised the departure of those EXTRA players, to me, only endorses his allegations.

          You are likely seeing this from a riders fan’s point of view. I am looking at this as a person who supports one of the other teams in the league.

          Because of that, we will probably always disagree.

          I don’t see Bo Levi Mitchell as a hero. But, as someone who was looking out for the rest of us who love and support the CFL.

          Not sure if you’re aware, but we exist too.

          • Robin, I appreciate where you’re coming from, but I think you missed my point.

            It doesn’t matter whether Bo’s allegations were true. That has nothing to do with whether they were appropriate. The league WOULD HAVE made the cheating public knowledge when they levied the fine with or without BLM’s tweets, making his comments unnecessary and interfering. The appropriate course of action for Bo would have been to talk to Huff or Dickenson, who would then pass on the information to the league, who would then say “thanks, we’re already looking into it”. When the fine was levied, the public would have been made aware and this whole conversation would have happened without Bo taking it upon himself to play the hero.

            It’s the whole principle of what he did, jumping on a scandal in a completely separate organization (which poses no threat to his team in the standings or on the field) to make himself look like the good guy and ridicule their franchise and fanbase. THAT is why Riders fans (and others, see Bombers fan Strider below) are upset with what BLM did.

            On the topic of Burris, even if what he said was true, his comments were still inappropriate for national TV and unbecoming of a veteran CFL starting QB. That is where the similarity lies with BLM’s comments.

            I’m not denying that someone in the Riders organization (almost certainly Chris Jones) cheated and thought they could get away with it, and deserves to be disciplined. I’m also fairly certain (and I believe there’s a consensus amid league insiders including Glen Suitor and Dave Naylor) that other teams do the same thing, albeit surely to a lesser extent.

            For the record, I’m aware that there are fans that cheer for other teams in the league besides the Riders. I’m guessing your comment about me not being aware of that was sarcastic? I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

  54. What I find so interesting about this thread is the fact that an a league QB accuses another team of cheating and everyone jumps on the band wagon, no proof, nothing, just a jocks stupidity and the witch hunt begins. People like Robin in the City call people cowards, liars, etc thinking this somehow makes him more honourable. Whether there was intentional cheating or not that should have been left up to the league but instead Bovine tries to turn fans and media against another team, to me that is as dishonest as so called cheating…….the league has more the once instructed players not to use social media to make accusations against refs, other players or teams yet Bovine believes he is above these rules. He should be fined or suspended and let the league handled any wrong doing on the Riders part…..that is what an ethical person would do, but somehow I doubt Bovine will do that…..and I am a Bomber fan and a league fan so you can shove your accusations…..

    • This Rider fan couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve seen way more level-headed Bombers fans than Stamps fans in these forums.

    • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 12:32 pm //

      I called this person a coward, because he continued to insult and even stated that he would say those things to my face, like it would ever happen. When a person insists on such behaviour, he is a coward.

      Proof is there today that this Regina team, DID cheat. Bo may have brought it forward, but there were a NUMBER of others who saw the same as well.

      The league even intervened to make sure that the extra PAID players had departed.

      Whether Bo was right or wrong in doing so. FACT is that you were caught CHEATING, and is a much greater transgression that anything that Bo might have done.

      On behalf of fans supporting other teams in this league, he did the rest of us a service.

      If you had NOT cheated, then the negative focus on your team would NOT have occurred. Blaming someone else when you do something wrong is purely scapegoating.

      As a community of fans and as a team, YOU need to take responsibility for the wrong. Hurling insults and baseless allegations at others only makes YOU look weak.

      If you choose not to step up to this, that’s on you. Meantime, don’t expect any empathy from the rest of us.

      • Robin (from THE city) // August 12, 2016 at 12:38 pm //

        Oh and by the way, I did NOT call anyone a liar. What I did was challenge them to provide actual proof of their attempts to accuse or smear others.

        When they could not, they made THEMSELVES to be liars.

  55. This discussion started before anything was made public by the league so at the time it was all hearsay and a witch hunt based on an internet blog and a loud mouth starting QB. And i never said i wanted him injured i did suggest however it might happen. Everyone also attacked all the fans and all the head office staff and calling the whole team liars and cheaters that includes Robin. This all start because of an ill informed group of people including the Calgary QB all with a large lack of ethics and allowing the proper authoutities to handle it. If this had been a police investigation Bovine would be in jail for leaking information. So with that being said i hope this makes the league scrutinize all the teams more closely because they all cheat in one form or another people either havent the gonads to admit it or are simply that naive….for those that believe everything on the internet is true hate to break the news to you…..and btw Robin it is very easy for someone like you to be an internet bully

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