Ticats deal QB Jake Waters to Riders for rights to B.J. Daniels

The Hamilton Tiger-Cats traded quarterback Jake Waters to the Saskatchewan Roughriders for the rights to a player on Saskatchewan’s negotiation list, which CFL sources said is former South Florida quarterback B.J. Daniels.

For the Ticats, Waters’ departure is likely a sign that the team is pleased with the development of former Notre Dame quarterback Everett Golson, who was signed by the team in late June but needs more practice time. He’ll move up to third on depth chart, at least until Zach Collaros is ready to return from his knee injury. Head coach Kent Austin said last week that Collaros was “very, very close” to practicing with the club.

Daniels, meanwhile, was drafted by San Francisco in the seventh round in 2013 and has been with three other NFL teams, mostly recently the New York Giants (who released him in mid-June.) He won a Super Bowl as a member of the Seattle Seawhawks in 2014 and has also spent some time as a wide receiver in the NFL. He’s an athletic guy who runs well.

As a quarterback at the University of South Florida, Daniels amassed 8,433 passing yards and threw 52 touchdowns while also rushing for 2,068 yards and 25 TDs. Daniels finished his career as USF’s career leader in passing and rushing yards and second all time in the Big East.

Given the timing of this move and that Daniels may still be pursuing NFL opportunities, I wouldn’t expect to see him in Hamilton until next season at the earliest (if we see him at all.) But by moving Waters, they create space for Collaros, provide Golson more reps and get something in return for a guy that wasn’t likely to fit into their plans.

For the Riders, Waters gives them another mobile quarterback as they search for back up depth behind starter Darian Durant. Saskatchewan has struggled in short yardage situations the last two weeks with Brian Moniz fumbling in each of the last two games and Durant getting stuffed on the final play of Friday’s loss to Edmonton. They have an immediate need, which Waters can potentially fill while Daniels is a long-term solution, at best.

The 24-year-old Waters spent time with the NFL’s Seattle Seahawks and Jacksonville Jaguars last year after two excellent seasons at Kansas State where he broke the school’s career records for completion percentage (64.1), passing efficiency (155.8), total offensive yards per game (260.2) and passing yards per attempt (9.09.) In his two-year career with the Wildcats, Waters threw for 5,970 yards, 40 touchdowns and 16 interceptions, and added 796 rushing yards with 15 touchdowns on the ground. He started his college career at Iowa Western Community College set the record for completion percentage (73.3), previously held by Cam Newton, now of the Carolina Panthers.

There’s a relatively detailed scouting report on Waters available here but it sounds like he’s ideal for the CFL: slightly undersized by NFL standards (6-foot-1) decent if unspectacular arm, good mobility with off-the-charts accuracy. Sounds like he has a little toughness in him as well.

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Drew Edwards is into his eighth season covering the CFL and the Ticats for the Hamilton Spectator. He is the founder and editor of 3DownNation.
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38 Comments on Ticats deal QB Jake Waters to Riders for rights to B.J. Daniels

  1. Al Coholic // July 9, 2016 at 3:43 pm //

    This deal paves the way for Everett Golson to ascend the depth chart. Nothing is given when Collaros returns & if he suffers another major injury, the TiCats may be in a position to start Golson over Massoli, which may yield better results. Also, Golson’s development and possible promotion to 1st string QB may allow Austin to peddle Collaros to another team so that he may fill some holes on the team, namely the defensive secondary & another pass-rushing DE as Tracy has been underwhelming thus far. Really though, if I am Austin, I will seriously pursue Johnny Manziel as his skill-set would allow him to star in this league, similiar to what Doug Flutie did years ago. I wouldn’t worry about Manziel’s checkered past as I doubt that Hess village would be too much of a temptation for him and the women of Hamilton would probably be enough for him to turn to celibacy.

    Hey homes … pass the cervesa … !!!!

    • Billinburlington // July 9, 2016 at 5:48 pm //

      “Peddle Collaros” Are you serious? This will not be happening.

    • Ticat Mike // July 9, 2016 at 9:08 pm //

      I don’t think so.

    • mr62cats // July 10, 2016 at 11:24 am //

      Al Coholic or whatever: If this is not a troll……you cannot be serious! Trade Collaros? Hire Johnny Football? Go back to your bottle and quit bothering us.
      Too bad this board does not require a minimum IQ test in addition to the spambot check.

  2. Very interesting move – not often that one unproven quarterback is traded for another.

  3. zugerfan // July 9, 2016 at 5:12 pm //

    Trolls are fools… Don’t you agree Snake? Just saying.

  4. Hey Al Caholic, have you been drinking?

  5. zugerfan // July 9, 2016 at 5:42 pm //

    Al Caholic is the same troll that was on the site a little while ago. He is not worthy of a response.

  6. Trolls might be fools… Wouldn’t know, don’t feed them and just hope they go away quietly…

    Don’t know what this deal will net the Ticats but sure wish they would beef up the pass rush, OL and DBs….

    Just saying

    Cheers… Snake

    • Al Coholic // July 9, 2016 at 6:46 pm //

      The Snake, what is a troll ??? Anyhow, I believe my comments have merit. Perhaps Golson will impress and win the back-up job to Collaros. If he continues to impress, maybe he’ll make Collaros expendable. History has proven that this type of scenario is possible (ie. Collaros making Burris expendable in Hamilton). Anyhow, maybe we can meet somewhere and match our wits: mano e mano ….

      Hey homes … pass the cervesa … !!!

  7. Al Coholic // July 9, 2016 at 6:48 pm //

    By the way clowns: I’m a season ticket holder and a longtime fan of the TiCats …. perhaps you guys here can pool your money together & get a ticket to next year’s preseason game !!!!

    Hey homes … pass the cervesa … !!!

  8. Barry Zavitz // July 9, 2016 at 7:24 pm //

    Hey, been away for a bit. I too, have seasons. I understand that Al may be a bit different, bit instead of getting caught up in his eccentric behaviour, it does seem he makes good arguments. Al has stated that the TigerCats should attempt to acquire Matt Sewell since he has refused to report to the RoughRiders and desires to play in Southern Ontario. I agree with Al, I believe this scenario is possible and Sewell would upgrade Hamilton’s O-Line. Al, mentioned that the D-Line & DBs need an upgrade. I would concur. The last 2 games have shown that Adrian Tracy is underperforming and the DBs need reinforcements, although it looks like Pointer has some promise. Al, has also mentioned the trading of Collaros. I know that seems far fetched, but, and it may be a huge but, Golson proves to be a legit # 1 QB, then why not pull a trigger on a deal that will reap big rewards for the team. I know this may seem outrageous, but please remember that Montana was pushed out by Young, Favre by Rogers & Bledsoe by Brady. Instead of reacting emotionally, think about things and I would think you will see that what Al has proposed isn’t far-fetched. Sorry if what I wrote offends others and I’m not taking sides here, just suggesting a little objectivity wouldn’t hurt.

  9. I can give you $1.5Million rea$on$ why Zach won’t be traded…

  10. TicatTO // July 9, 2016 at 8:27 pm //

    I think the comments previous are bizarre. Trade Collaros for who?Why?To fix some perceived weakness in the team.The Ticats would trade one of if not the best QB in the league on the assumption that a recently signed QB on the practice roster will be ready soon to take over the team.
    I would have to agree with you are not trolls but perhaps comedians.

    • Marc Antony // July 10, 2016 at 7:53 am //

      I had a good chuckle about that too! We have the most gifted QB in the CFL, so naturally, we should think about trading him. Too much!

  11. In Kent We Trust.

  12. Gary Allen // July 9, 2016 at 10:38 pm //

    I am a Notre Dame grad, follow the team and attend as many games as I can, and know several folks down there…Everett Golson will not be a number one QB for several years.

    He turns the ball over more than Massoli; he does not take coaching well, going so far as to hide on the sidelines when the defense was on the field; had poor relationships with other players, again, sitting alone on the sidelines, avoiding them on campus…

    He’s got LOTS of issues, and I do believe that if anyone can “fix” him, it’s Austin…but don’t hold your breath TiCat fans….well, maybe you, Al…wow, you could knock over WC Fields!

    • mr62cats // July 10, 2016 at 11:29 am //

      Thanks for the reality check. I appreciate your first hand knowledge and insights into Golson.

  13. Lindsay Wilcox // July 10, 2016 at 2:54 am //

    Trivia: Ticats have a long history of trading away QBs, usually for other QBs or as part of block-buster packages. In ’60 tried to trade Faloney to Montreal for Etcheverry, but Etcheverry refused to report (no-trade clause) and the deal fell through. Since it was a conditional trade, Faloney stayed in Hamilton, Etcheverry went to the NFL after a brief court battle which saw him declared a free agent because the Als violated his contract. ’65 Ticats did trade Faloney to Als as part of a block-buster deal that saw Als get Faloney, Ralph Goldston and back-up DB Jackie Simpson; Ticats got 3 starting Canadian DBs – Teddie Page, Billy Wayte, Barry Hansen, all-star DE Billy Ray Locklin, and all-star RB Don Clark who refused to report. After ’64 season Ticats sent Canadian QB Frank Cosentino, RB Gerry McDougall, and Don Sutherin to Edmonton for Tommy-Joe Coffey, QB/DB Bill Redell. ’74 Ticats traded QB and ’72 hero Chuck Ealey to Winnipeg for Don Jonas. In the ’80s sent Tom Clements to Winnipeg for Dieter Brock – Clements killed the Ticats in the GC that year. So the Ticats trading away a proven QB (Collaros) is not just a pipe-dream (or alcohol-induced delirium) But I don’t see it happening any time soon !!! Since the Habs traded away PK Subban ANYTHING is possible !! But I hope and expect to see Zach as QB here for a long time.

    • That was a great history lesson Lindsay – if I recall the Clements-Brock trade was not just one for one but we also had to give up another player or two or draft picks or something and Clements not only beat us soundly in the Grey Cup the following year – you may recall that Clements beat us soundly a week or two later in ’83 but then when he came back to Hamilton to play us, one of our defensive linemen tackled him and broke his collarbone and he was out for the rest of the year. He beat us in the ’84 Grey Cup and then we lost Brock to the NFL while Clements played in Winnipeg through ’87 and even won league most outstanding player in his final season.

      • another history lesson, Clements was from Notre Dame, same as Golson. There was another guy from there Joe Montana. He was the Notre Dame QB right after Clements.

        • …and Joe Theissman was at Notre Dame before Clements.

        • CanuckDomer // July 10, 2016 at 3:06 pm //

          Actually, a guy named Rick Slager followed Clements in ’75 and ’76, but Montana played in a couple of games in ’75, then got hurt and missed all of ’76. Then, in 1977, the Irish started two other QBs in the first three games, Rusty Lisch and Gary Forystek…Montana took over late in game 3, brought them back against Purdue, and the job was his…

    • Marc Antony // July 10, 2016 at 8:15 am //

      Very interesting post! I’m an old fan now and reading it brought back a lot of memories. In my opinion, if Zach can stay healthy, he’ll become one of the all-time greatest Ti-Cat quarterbacks ever. Wait and see.

  14. Lindsay Wilcox // July 10, 2016 at 7:28 am //

    Granted, only highlights, but B.J. does run well, and he has a nice touch on his passes – bullets to receivers in close quarters with DBs and nice arcing balls to receivers 1 on 1 in the end zone.

    • Al Coholic // July 10, 2016 at 7:38 am //

      Hey yo, Lindsay …. do you write your comments from the senior citizens’ home. Anyhow, your comments are mildly erotic … FaceTime me baby !!!

      Hey homes … pass the cervesa !!!

  15. PaddyAngel // July 10, 2016 at 9:29 am //

    Who was the last Tiger Cat to regularly start as they used to say “both ways”… offence and defence?

  16. Lindsay Wilcox // July 10, 2016 at 11:29 am //

    Earl Winfield and Jeff Tedford both played a little DB, but the last I remember going 2 ways was Garney Henley, although both John Barrow and Angelo Mosca often did, Barrow steadily for most of his career.

    Hey Al Coholic – I’m still actively working , part-time professor adjunct at local Medical School. Not yet ready for Senior Citizens home. 69.5 years old, and a 60+ year fan of the Ticats.

  17. John Williams // July 10, 2016 at 11:57 am //

    Hey Lindsay,

    Great trip down memory lane. I believe Lewis Porter and David Shaw also saw two-way duty at corner and WR. Dave Fleming was a durable running back most of his career but started the 1973 season at DB.

  18. TicatTO // July 10, 2016 at 1:00 pm //

    I’m not sure but wasn’t Bakari Grant used as a DB for a couple of plays in a regular season game? Does anybody remember that or am I confusing him with someone else?

    • I don’t recall that – I recall Earl Winfield being used for a play as a defensive back and knocking a pass down and I do remember Jeff Tedford playing as a nickel back for a game back in the mid-80s.

  19. Lindsay Wilcox // July 10, 2016 at 2:19 pm //

    Porter and Shaw did see occasional spot action as far wide-outs to run the fly/arrow/go patterns. Sorry forgot 2 of my favorite Ticats – Fleming did see 2-way action as RB and DB , and Joe Zuger in ’62 was a QB who threw 8 TD passes in first pro game, but in ’63 when Faloney returned from injury, Zuger played DB. Mustn’t forget that Zuger in his final season at Arizona led U.S. college players in punting and interceptions made as a DB ! In the ’50s a lot of players – imports AND Canadians – went both ways: Tommy Grant was a WR/flanker and DB. Hal Patterson played as WR and DB in Montreal, but don’t remember him going 2 ways in Hamilton ???

  20. Oh, and the Ti Cats also traded the rights to Darian Durant for the rights to Reggie Ball.

  21. Big Mike // July 11, 2016 at 6:39 pm //

    Interesting comments. Clements left because he didn’t like the coach, Kush and seemed as if he Clements threw the 2 game total point final the previous year. Kush was the same coach Elway refused to play for when he was drafted by Baltimore.
    The only QB I remember the Ti-Cats developing was a guy by the name of Mike Kerrigan who won a Grey Cup.
    Porter was signed as a wide receiver and converted to a defensive back.
    Players going both ways was popular up until the mid 60s and as regular season schedules expanded it died.
    Probably the worst GM I can remember was Marcel Desjardins who help build The Riders 2007 Grey Cup Team. Hamilton drafted Chris Getzlaf and Bauman the same year kept that dud Bauman and traded away Getzlaf for a bag of balls.
    Now to the present, Austin needs to develop a QB in the next couple of years before Collaros contract expires or sooner if he can’t stay healthy. Masoli, until he proves some consistency is merely a stop gap measure. Jackory Harris’ days are numbered. The jury is still out on Matthews, he may just need more time. If Golson can prove himself then fine, if not Austin and company keep looking.
    As far as the defence, we need to stabilize the corners and OS has to stop having brain cramps and calling a 3 man rush on 2nd and long. There is nothing wrong with the front four, if the DBs can maintain some level of coverage it will give the Dline time to penetrate.
    It’s early in the season yet, the real season doesn’t start until after the 4th game.

    • I agree with everything you said except that Clements did not leave because of Kush – Kush left at the end of 1981 and Clements was traded in the fall of 1983 – Bud Riley was still the coach then but about to be fired in favour of Al Bruno. If they had kept Clements and fired Riley we probably would have won a couple of more Grey Cups in the mid 1980s.

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